talking Syd Barrett at the bar

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:43 pm

it's interesting how many people you meet who claim to be "big" Syd fans....are really just DSOM or the Wall fans of the diamond that shines on crazy or was being wished they were there...or worse, the David Gilmour="such a great guitar player" Floyd fans.

so, you like Opal?

never heard of them.

I like that tune Octopus and No Good Trying.....

huh?

nothing against DSOM and Gilmour is OK, I guess.

and i've got a bike and you can do what you like....

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:50 pm

fucking hell, interstellar OD and you are talking the video for learning to fly.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:10 pm

Don't compare DSOM to Opel. It's Apples and Oranges.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:04 am

Martyred wrote:Don't compare DSOM to Opel. It's Apples and Oranges.

i'm not, but a comparison between apples and oranges is a *comparison* of unlike qualities in the Hegelian sense and not one of *like* quanitity....not a comparison of moronistry in the sense that one is *awesome* and the other is *the name of another group*?

like i said, i've got a bike...you can do what you like.

his name is gerald.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:16 am

Apples and Oranges is a song...

...by Pink Floyd...

...sung by Syd Barrett...

....

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:48 am

Martyred wrote:Apples and Oranges is a song...

...by Pink Floyd...

...sung by Syd Barrett...

....

i didn't realize that was your context. but, yeah, i screwed the pooch if you want. it's not what the Glimour people who have never heard Animals start to finish mean.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:40 am

King Crimson wrote:
i didn't realize that was your context. but, yeah, i screwed the pooch if you want. it's not what the Glimour people who have never heard Animals start to finish mean.

You're pretty stoned at this point, aren't you?

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:21 am

Martyred wrote:
King Crimson wrote:
i didn't realize that was your context. but, yeah, i screwed the pooch if you want. it's not what the Glimour people who have never heard Animals start to finish mean.

You're pretty stoned at this point, aren't you?

not really, but enough to know that the Decembrists are stealing the Kurt Weill and Brecht vs. the opera thing. and at least i can spell Weill if not Glimour. and i know about Brecht and what he was trying to do with a theory of theatre.....like the DC's do with "the Sporting Life"....because that is Brecht, possibly.

i'm not a huge fan of the DC's but i appreciate what they are trying to do, in some ways.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:38 am

if it's about the Pix: BBC: Dead

she was looking like an erotic vulture...

i was wearing eye-liner.....

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:07 pm

Martyred wrote:
King Crimson wrote:
i didn't realize that was your context. but, yeah, i screwed the pooch if you want. it's not what the Glimour people who have never heard Animals start to finish mean.

You're pretty stoned at this point, aren't you?

Probably enough to want some Candy and a Currant Bun. But not enough to turn him into Vegetable Man.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:27 pm

Being one of those Wall fans, not only did I not get the apples and oranges bit, I'm still trying to figure out wtf DSOM is.

Can somebody hook a "wall fan" up?

I take it, they're some floyd cover band.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:25 am

smackaholic wrote:Being one of those Wall fans, not only did I not get the apples and oranges bit, I'm still trying to figure out wtf DSOM is.

Can somebody hook a "wall fan" up?

I take it, they're some floyd cover band.

Dark Side Of The Moon.

I like the Barrett era...and I like The Wall...

Everything in between is self-indulgent, masturbatory drivel.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:54 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: Wish You Were Here and Animals were some pretty epic albums.

Absolutely.

Wow, something Screwey and I agree on...

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:47 pm

Martyred wrote: You're pretty stoned at this point, aren't you?

Marty, if you think Pigs is "masturbatory drivel".... then I would suggest that you need to get stoned.... at this point.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:59 pm

^^^^^^^^^

When people say that 70's music sucks and that the 70's were a low point in musical creativity ( a point that is both broad and categorically false) I have a hard time refuting their argument when this is used as evidence.

C'mon. It's not even a good jam.

At this point in history, a musical revolution was taking place (punk, reggae, experimental). Pink Floyd was just babysitting bong-rip burnouts. Nothing pushing the envelope. No chances being taken. No thinking outside the box.

Pure convention.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:12 pm

smackaholic wrote:Being one of those Wall fans, not only did I not get the apples and oranges bit, I'm still trying to figure out wtf DSOM is.

Can somebody hook a "wall fan" up?

I take it, they're some floyd cover band.

Apples and Oranges (Syd Barret era Floyd Single)
Same for Vegetable Man and Candy and a Currant Bun (which was the B-side to either Arnold Layne or See Emily Play)
DSOM= Dark Side of the Moon.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:28 pm

Martyred wrote:When people say that 70's music sucks and that the 70's were a low point in musical creativity...

Who says that? Obviously, they're dumbfucks.

C'mon. It's not even a good jam.

Maybe not to you, but I like it. A bunch.

I guess I don't get how you could say you like Dark Side and The Wall and not like either WYWH or Animals. That doesn't even make since. Imo, The Wall is the weakest of the 4. Not that it sucks, but it doesn't even come close to approaching the prior 3.

At this point in history, a musical revolution was taking place (punk, reggae, experimental). Pink Floyd was just babysitting bong-rip burnouts. Nothing pushing the envelope. No chances being taken. No thinking outside the box.

Pure convention.

Wha... :?

I don't know how old you are Marty, but when Animals came out I was 15 and it blew me away.

Punk? Reggae? Experimental? Are you fucking kidding me? You're trying to compare Floyd to that?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:37 pm

fukk, I must be getting senile. Not sure how I missed DSOM.

Even though I am a "wall fan", I do prefer DSOM. One of the best albums ever made, IMO.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:19 pm

smackaholic wrote: One of the best albums ever made, IMO.

Certainly one of the best selling and popular albums of all time. It's sold 45 million copies and stayed near the top of the Billboard charts for an unprecedented 12 years.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:10 am

War Wagon wrote: I guess I don't get how you could say you like Dark Side and The Wall and not like either WYWH or Animals.

I never said I liked DSOM. Technically, it is intriguing, and it is a marvel of studio fuckery for it's time.

War Wagon wrote: Imo, The Wall is the weakest of the 4. Not that it sucks, but it doesn't even come close to approaching the prior 3.

Sadly, most Pink Floyd fans are too stupid to realise that The Wall was Floyd's (and Waters, personally) Magnum Opus.
It's far too cerebral...too personal...for most "light-show stoners" and Bic lighter waving, stadium-rock yahoos.

Animals, WYWH, DSOM...is rote noodling. Big on flash, weak on actual emotion, which is the essence of any "good music".

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:24 am

So if I went to a Pink Floyd show, would there be a reserved section for fans smoking pipes, peering through monacles and scratching their heads? On the Capital Records 6000 series, it says 'file under teen groups'.

I think they're pretty shit all round, but 'Lucifer Sam' is a good song. Shame they ripped the riff off Dave Clark Five.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:26 am

hahaha... check out the big head on music critic Marty.

The Wall too cerebral? If you're an MGMT fan, I guess.

That's rich, especially considering their earlier work.

Stop trolling me.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:48 am

War Wagon wrote:
The Wall too cerebral? If you're an MGMT fan, I guess.

I said 'too cerebral for typical Pink Floyd fans'.

I stand by that.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:16 am

armour-clad defense :doh:

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:35 am

First, Animals is BY FAR Floyd's best album... BY FAR.

Second, I have to give Phibes some limited props for leaving the word "bourgeois" out of his response -- occasionally, he suprises me.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:46 pm

Floyd, to me, is the first two albums - EOS.

Opal is a band that was on SST.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:17 pm

PSUFAN wrote:Floyd, to me, is the first two albums - EOS.

Nice troll.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:34 pm

Loves me some old Floyd. Meddle and Ummagumma, Saucerful of Secrets.

I'll spam this thread with YouTube of tunes.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:36 pm

Just some of my favs.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:43 pm

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:45 pm

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:57 pm

IF, somewhat of a Barrettesque song by Roger.

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:04 pm

Too mellow ?

Okay let's kick into Overdrive ...

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:07 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:11 pm

Why are you doing this Tom?

:|

Tom In VA · Post by **Tom In VA** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:51 pm

Slow day at the office, I enjoy those songs. Figured maybe some other folks will as well. I'm being an anarchist. Doing what I want.

Did I break a rule of the the forum ? If so let me know, I can only handle this anarchy thing one day a month.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:57 pm

Tom In VA wrote:
Did I break a rule of the the forum ? If so let me know, I can only handle this anarchy thing one day a month.

No, no...you're doing fine.

Baby steps, Tom. Baby steps.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:05 am

Dinsdale wrote:First, Animals is BY FAR Floyd's best album... BY FAR.

Absolutely.

Second, I have to give Phibes some limited props..

Phibes is solid, sorta' a MikethedrunkenCUfan... who's not drunk.

As much as I despise LTS, I've learned to appreciate Phibes.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:13 am

Tom In VA wrote:Slow day at the office, I enjoy those songs. Figured maybe some other folks will as well. I'm being an anarchist. Doing what I want.

Did I break a rule of the the forum ? If so let me know, I can only handle this anarchy thing one day a month.

great tunes all around.