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This guy gets it.....


The most die-hard fans reside in CALIFORNIA.






The best fans in the PAC 10.....


1. California: The joke around the Old Blues is that many have an overdue date with St. Peter, but refuse to leave Earth until Cal gets to a Rose Bowl. You’ve got to love a fan base that would rather play in the Rose Bowl, where the Bears haven’t been since 1959, than the BCS Championship game. Jeff Tedford said as much a month ago at Pac-10 media day. That’s crazy, but it’s sort of heart-warming, too. Then there’s the quirkiness of Memorial Stadium, which includes Tight Wad Hill and a remodel delayed in part to tree huggers. The school is testing the passion of Bear fans by asking some to pay as much as $225,000 for a seat in the renovated stadium. As a personal aside, I’m particularly impressed by the intelligence of Bear football fans.


yep, this guy gets it...




3. Oregon: You’re No. 3 Duck fans, but I’m not happy about it. Oregon fans travel well in bowl games, and they do show up for games, so I’ll give them that. But in a survey of just about every person I know, Duck fans are the most annoying, entitled fans in the Pac-10. It’s really not close. I hate to lump all Oregon fans into one group, because some of them get it,





4. USC: There is a huge sense of entitlement among USC fans. If the Trojans are going good, as they are now, they support the heck out of the football team. But when things aren’t going so well – see the Paul Hackett years, when 55-60K crowds were the norm – USC fans would just as soon spend a Saturday afternoon at the beach. If the Trojans ever drop down as low as something like the Sun Bowl, you’ll be able to transport all of the fans to El Paso in a school bus.


Ya think ??????

Case in point....


http://bustersports.com/blog/pac-10-new ... ans-1-10-/







m2 is the truth....

Tomorrow I'm going to make some spaghetti with the wife. Thursday I'm meeting some buddies at a bar to grab some beer and burgers and talk some college football. Hopefully my buddy picks up some Fat Tire on his way back from Chicago. Friday it's grilling and good cigars.

Killian wrote:Tomorrow I'm going to make some spaghetti with the wife. Thursday I'm meeting some buddies at a bar to grab some beer and burgers and talk some <NOBR><A class=PSAdLink id=PSLINK_2_0_2 href="#">college football</A></NOBR>. Hopefully my buddy picks up some Fat Tire on his way back from Chicago. Friday it's grilling and good cigars.

I'm heading to KC for the Royals game tomorrow. Probably down a few Boulevard's and eat their new Buffalo chicken bites and fries they have at The K. They have some excellent buffalo sauce. I love spicy food and their sauce is extra spicy.

Fat Tire is some very good beer. We just got Fat Tire here in Iowa maybe a year and a half ago. I was hooked on that stuff when I lived in Montana back in 2002 but didn't ever drink it again until we got it here. For whatever reason, I always forget we have it and rarely order/buy it. I am going to have to make a point to drink more Fat Tire because it is one of my favorite beers.

Killian wrote:Tomorrow I'm going to make some spaghetti with the wife. Thursday I'm meeting some buddies at a bar to grab some beer and burgers and talk some college football. Hopefully my buddy picks up some Fat Tire on his way back from Chicago. Friday it's grilling and good cigars.

You know what... you're not a bright guy and you've likely spent eternity in the SHITHOLE.... known as the Midwest for a reason...

... you're dumber than a box of rocks.


Seriously, if you're not bright enough to engage in such a conversation... in the off-season... then do us all a favor and blow away.


Fuckin' Midwesterners....





the truth

My bad.... they're also calling Cal for the MNC game...

Psst... It's not my blog...



http://bustersports.com/blog/pac-10-new ... alifornia/










the truth

FeCal avgd 61,632 fans in a 9 win season in 2008, 85.6% of the stadiums capacity. in 2007 they avgd 63,136, 87.6% of the stadiums capacity, but the Tennessee and USC games both brought more than the 72,000 fans Memorial Stadium reportedly holds.
FeCal also has over 25,000 undergrad students
USC has been at 94 and 95% capacity of a 92,000 seat stadium the last 2 seasons with an undergrad student body of 16,000 students.
Ill admit that when "he whose name we dont say" was still coaching USC, my family didnt use our season seats, we had better things to do than watch that boob ruin the program. We still bought season seats just didnt go to the games. The last few years I have been given tickets to basketball games through Cardinal and Gold and we haven't gone to any of those games either. Im not going to drive 90 minutes north of here to watch something I dont enjoy, makes me a bad booster of my schools program, oh well.

YMCA.

SoCalTrjn wrote:Ill admit that when "he whose name we dont say" was still coaching USC, my family didnt use our season seats, we had better things to do than watch that boob ruin the program. We still bought season seats just didnt go to the games. The last few years I have been given tickets to basketball games through Cardinal and Gold and we haven't gone to any of those games either. Im not going to drive 90 minutes north of here to watch something I dont enjoy, makes me a bad booster of my schools program, oh well.

Pathetic. A&M has sucked balls the last 5 years. Yet I still drop good money (and time) to go see them at least once a year. I lived in Dallas and had season tix and made the 3 hour drive each home weekend. My in-laws all went to IU and I make most of the games there for a shit team. 90 minute drive as well. You either love CFB or you don't. Thanks for making mJew's point that $CFan is BandwagonFan.

Sudden Sam wrote:The excuse that "there's more to do in SoCal than go to college football games" sucks. I'm sick of hearing it. Like Indy said, you either love CFB or you don't.

Yeah, I never understood that either. I don't care how many awesome things you've got going on in your backyard. Your team plays 12 games a year, 13 if you go to a bowl game. You can't muster 13 days out of 365 to follow your team? The beaches, the oceans, the mountains, and everything else will still be there.

I made a ham and cheese omelet with a rich hollandaise sauce topping for breakfast.

SunCoastSooner wrote:rich hollandaise

Stoops-squirt?

TheJON wrote: Fat Tire is some very good beer. We just got Fat Tire here in Iowa maybe a year and a half ago. I was hooked on that stuff when I lived in Montana back in 2002 but didn't ever drink it again until we got it here. For whatever reason, I always forget we have it and rarely order/buy it. I am going to have to make a point to drink more Fat Tire because it is one of my favorite beers.

Where in Montana did you live? I have family that live in Boezman and I absolutely love it there. Fat Tire is great, but it's changed a little bit since they decided to mass produce it. Doesn't taste the same, but still very good. Who knows, if it was sold here in Michigan, it might just become another of the beers I rotate on a weekly basis. I'm waiting for all of the fall beers to come out. Brooklyn's Pumpkin Ale and Arcadia's Jawjacker Ale are two of my favorites, regardless of the season.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

Sudden Sam wrote:The excuse that "there's more to do in SoCal than go to college football games" sucks. I'm sick of hearing it. Like Indy said, you either love CFB or you don't.

Yeah, I never understood that either. I don't care how many awesome things you've got going on in your backyard. Your team plays 12 games a year, 13 if you go to a bowl game. You can't muster 13 days out of 365 to follow your team? The beaches, the oceans, the mountains, and everything else will still be there.

When there is shitty football being played, I can understand it as a form of protest. Notre Dame will always "sell out" every game, but the administration takes notice of lack of asses in seats. If people who obviously have the money to burn on season tickets at ND, choose not to spend the money to fly/drive to campus to see a shitty product, I can understand that. It's a form of protest. If they don't come to campus, they aren't renting hotels, they aren't buying merchandise, and they aren't spending money on the school. They are trying to hit the school where it hurts, in the pocket books. And I know with Notre Dame, a lot of the people who decide not to make it to the games also decide not to dontate to the school. That's when it is really noticed.

Fat Tire is ok. Just doesn't taste right in the can they make it in now.

I like a little more hops though. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is more what I like.

For Dins...Of course, it's no Cinder Cone.

I'm not a big Pale Ale kinda guy. Only one I really like that is close to a Pale Ale is Magic Hat #9. I'm more into the Amber's and Red's. Only beer in Michigan that I've found that is close to Fat Tire is Belle's Amber. Belle's is the same one that makes Oberon.

Killian wrote:When there is shitty football being played, I can understand it as a form of protest. Notre Dame will always "sell out" every game, but the administration takes notice of lack of asses in seats. If people who obviously have the money to burn on season tickets at ND, choose not to spend the money to fly/drive to campus to see a shitty product, I can understand that. It's a form of protest. If they don't come to campus, they aren't renting hotels, they aren't buying merchandise, and they aren't spending money on the school. They are trying to hit the school where it hurts, in the pocket books. And I know with Notre Dame, a lot of the people who decide not to make it to the games also decide not to dontate to the school. That's when it is really noticed.

But...are you protesting to get somebody fired, who's driving the program into the ground, or because the team simply isn't playing well? I don't understand boycotting your team because they're going through a down cycle. Teams go through ups and downs, and so should the fans. That's part of being a fan. It's not all roses all the time.

I could never boycott my team. Ever.

And keeping your season tix but not going to the games is worse than "true" boycotting. You're being a BITCH if you do that. You're not boycotting. You're bandwagon fan at best. You're saying "I'll come to the games if you're good." I'm pretty shocked you're ok with that behavior Killian.

fat tire isn't as good as it used to be...and i've been drinking it for 15 years (i think it's solid, not great in the local brew scene). it's never been "my beer" but it's on tap everywhere around here. in fact, i avoid buying it these days since you are buying the name and the extra 1.50 per 6 that comes with it. i think of the Colorado beers, Avery and Flying Dog make a much better set of beers right now, today.

all the hop-freaks i know are ga-ga over Pliny the Elder and Dogfish but that's dropping some coin. when i drop serious coin, i'll get a nice single malt or one of the small-batch bourbons. maybe a real French Cab or one of big Italian reds to have with a filet.

IndyFrisco wrote:I could never boycott my team. Ever.

this. i saw OU lose to the D-III Polar Bears of Ohio Northern at the Lloyd Noble Center in Billy Tubbs' first year and John Blake's 3 consecutive losing seasons, jeez. christ, i listened to the Blake era games on the frickin' radio because even if you are OU 4 win teams aren't on national TV much.

I'll never have more than 3 beers in a sitting unless I'm at a sporting event. Even then, I'm usually limited to whatever piss light they have. At least at the Colts games, we have access to the club and they have a liquor bar there. But a double Jack and Coke is $16. I could swing it, but out of spite I stick to Sam Adams or Heinekin there.

So pricey beer is ok by me as I won't be on it all night anyway.

But a double Jack and Coke is $16. I could swing it, but out of spite I stick to Sam Adams or Heinekin there.

Fuck that, just go by some Barnoculars and fill them with all the Jack you want, then all you have to do is buy the coke.

Laxplayer wrote:

But a double Jack and Coke is $16. I could swing it, but out of spite I stick to Sam Adams or Heinekin there.

Fuck that, just go by some Barnoculars and fill them with all the Jack you want, then all you have to do is buy the coke.

Screwball says what?

I'm fine with it when your team is going no where and you want the administration to make changes. It's a double edged sword. Yes, you want to support your team but on the flip side, if you shell out money for an inferior product then you are green lighting the powers that be to keep things the way they are because your numbers are still in the black.

People were all for Davie when he started, but by the time 2001 rolled around and he started the year 0-3 with blow out losses to Nebraska and Texas A&M, people were fed up and wanted a change so they stopped coming to the games. I remember hearing from my buddy who was an ND student at the time that you could literally walk up and buy Navy tickets 10 minutes before the game started for $5. When Willingham started, you couldn't get a ticket. After 2003, people were less enthused but were ready for 2004. After the BYU debacle, and later the punt from the 30 BC abortion, people stopped coming. There was even a movement to fax the AD a letter stating why you wouldn't be attending games or buying merchandise.

Now, people are obviously on the fence about Weis. What doesn't help is the shitty schedule. So the people who would typically spend the money and fly in for the weekend to see friends and go to the games decide not to shell out that money and stay home and support the team. Call it bandwaggon if you want, but I think it's the only way to get your voice heard. For 12 Saturdays each fall, you can't get me away from the TV for 4 hours that day. I'll buy beer, watch the game and scream at my TV. But if the ND administration wants to continue to spit in the face of fans by putting a sub-par product on the field and by playing shitty teams, they aren't getting a dime of my money.

I don't think anyone on here can call me bandwaggon, but if that makes me a bandwaggon fan in some eyes, so be it.

K,

I didn't call you bandwagon. In fact, I said just the opposite when I said I was shocked you condoned that behavior. My point is that keeping your season tix and not going to the game is not boycotting. It is bandwagoning. Boycotting is saying "Fuck you, I'm not buying your product." It's a bitch move to buy the tix because you know how hard it is to get those seats back yet not go and call it boycotting.

'sall I'm sayin'. Either way, I would never do either. I'm a fucking sucker for A&M Everything. If I lived within a couple hours, I'd make every football game, every weekend basketball game and every weekend baseball series. I fucking loved it when A&M played the tourney in the NCAAs a few years ago in Lexington, KY. I was fucking there. I saw A&M pound (barely win) Louisville. Our current AD has made it clear he cares about one thing and one thing only. Money, not results. Yet I still pay. He says his vision is "We build champions". And he's doing that...in everything but football. I love the basketball success. Baseball has always been there. I could give a fuck about the Golf and Track Championships we won this year. Gimmie some football success. I'll jack to that!

RACK Indy

Indy,

I see what you are saying about the season tickets. And as [nose in the air][/nose in the air], ND does not sell season tickets any longer. Anyone who actually has season tickets, got them a loooooong time ago (likely a generation or two ago) and if they don't re-up for them, they will lose them forever. There is no waiting list because ND will not sell season ticket packages any longer. They opened up a section of the stadium for people to purchase them and they were gone before you could blink. They did that for reasons to let real fans yell and holler, and to keep them away from the wine and cheese crowd. That's an entirely different argument.

Typically the people that have season tickets that don't go, give the tickets to family members or local charities to be auctioned off. As soon as ND is good again, they will take their tickets. Yes, that is bandwaggon. But usually the ones who have the season tickets are also big money Sorin Society or other alumni contributors. And typically when ND stuggles, those donations go way down.

Indy...tell me you know what Barnoculars are?

I'll be opening the bag of pretzels before long, and whipping out the brown mustard. After guzzling some ice tea, I'll curl up on the beanbag and fondle my beanbag and think of the song girls.

My team has been bad forever and I wouldn't think of not getting season tickets. Try being an ISU fan, you fuckers.

Laxplayer wrote:Indy...tell me you know what Barnoculars are?

I know what they are. I was referring to Screwball and his tales of how he sneaks alcohol into stadiums. Guess you missed that thread.

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Laxplayer wrote:Indy...tell me you know what Barnoculars are?

Yeah, I was going to say I'm all about the Barnoculars. I'd usually just stick a couple flasks inside my waistband, but at venues where you're going through a metal detector, that would kind of suck.

At A&M, you are allowed to bring water into the game. we would pour out the water and load up with vodka or bacardi limon. buy cokes and mix it up.

SoCalTrjn wrote:FeCal avgd 61,632 fans in a 9 win season in 2008, 85.6% of the stadiums capacity. in 2007 they avgd 63,136, 87.6% of the stadiums capacity, but the Tennessee and USC games both brought more than the 72,000 fans Memorial Stadium reportedly holds.
FeCal also has over 25,000 undergrad students
USC has been at 94 and 95% capacity of a 92,000 seat stadium the last 2 seasons with an undergrad student body of 16,000 students.
Ill admit that when "he whose name we dont say" was still coaching USC, my family didnt use our season seats, we had better things to do than watch that boob ruin the program. We still bought season seats just didnt go to the games. The last few years I have been given tickets to basketball games through Cardinal and Gold and we haven't gone to any of those games either. Im not going to drive 90 minutes north of here to watch something I dont enjoy, makes me a bad booster of my schools program, oh well.

We have sold out 300 straight games....even during losing seasons. Carry on.

Indy, not only did I miss that thread, but I think I missed the boat.

H4ever wrote:

SoCalTrjn wrote:FeCal avgd 61,632 fans in a 9 win season in 2008, 85.6% of the stadiums capacity. in 2007 they avgd 63,136, 87.6% of the stadiums capacity, but the Tennessee and USC games both brought more than the 72,000 fans Memorial Stadium reportedly holds.
FeCal also has over 25,000 undergrad students
USC has been at 94 and 95% capacity of a 92,000 seat stadium the last 2 seasons with an undergrad student body of 16,000 students.
Ill admit that when "he whose name we dont say" was still coaching USC, my family didnt use our season seats, we had better things to do than watch that boob ruin the program. We still bought season seats just didnt go to the games. The last few years I have been given tickets to basketball games through Cardinal and Gold and we haven't gone to any of those games either. Im not going to drive 90 minutes north of here to watch something I dont enjoy, makes me a bad booster of my schools program, oh well.

We have sold out 300 straight games....even during losing seasons. Carry on.

what else are you going to do there?

socal - it doesn't matter where we are in the world. College football fans will watch college football.

I haven't been in quite some time, but my reasons for not going are more practical than anything else.

Many people can leave home Saturday morning and still get to the game a few hours ahead of kickoff, have time to catch up with old friends, and still get home before the kids are in bed. That's not the case for me. I live about 500 miles away from ND, so if I were to drive to a ND game, it would become a weekend-long event. In that case, I'd be leaving my wife home alone for the entire weekend with a pre-schooler and a special-needs child, plus, on occasion, her infant granddaughter. Throw in the fact that my son is now into youth football, and I'd be missing his game as well if I went to a game before November. The combinatino of being old married guy with a young family, plus living so far away from campus, makes it difficult if not impossible to get back for the games.

I suppose I could fly, but the South Bend airport is tiny. Most people who fly in for games fly to Chicago then catch the bus/train or rent a car to ND. That makes for extra hassles.

Throw in the fact that one of the perks of being ND fan is that virtually all of your team's games are televised either nationally or over a significant region of the country, so it's extremely rare that I can't see a ND game on TV (I think the last time I couldn't see a game on TV was the Air Force game in '06).

King Crimson wrote:

IndyFrisco wrote:I could never boycott my team. Ever.

this. i saw OU lose to the D-III Polar Bears of Ohio Northern at the Lloyd Noble Center in Billy Tubbs' first year and John Blake's 3 consecutive losing seasons, jeez. christ, i listened to the Blake era games on the frickin' radio because even if you are OU 4 win teams aren't on national TV much.

I was in Columbia when the idiot carrying the "Bye Bye Blake" sign was walking around all over the OU section. Dude couldn't have had more than 4 teeth and no way he ever attended a class in Norman. :(

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I haven't been in quite some time, but my reasons for not going are more practical than anything else.

Many people can leave home Saturday morning and still get to the game a few hours ahead of kickoff, have time to catch up with old friends, and still get home before the kids are in bed. That's not the case for me. I live about 500 miles away from ND, so if I were to drive to a ND game, it would become a weekend-long event. In that case, I'd be leaving my wife home alone for the entire weekend with a pre-schooler and a special-needs child, plus, on occasion, her infant granddaughter. Throw in the fact that my son is now into youth football, and I'd be missing his game as well if I went to a game before November. The combinatino of being old married guy with a young family, plus living so far away from campus, makes it difficult if not impossible to get back for the games.

I suppose I could fly, but the South Bend airport is tiny. Most people who fly in for games fly to Chicago then catch the bus/train or rent a car to ND. That makes for extra hassles.

Throw in the fact that one of the perks of being ND fan is that virtually all of your team's games are televised either nationally or over a significant region of the country, so it's extremely rare that I can't see a ND game on TV (I think the last time I couldn't see a game on TV was the Air Force game in '06).

My front door is 1,016 miles from Owen Field... OU has only had 4 games not televised this decade (three of them against Baylor)... excuses.

I'm thankful that I live in a region that gives its quaffers enough perspective to realize that Fat Tire is fucking horrific swill.

But I suppose if you didn't grow up drinking crafties, it beats Budweiser.

SunCoastSooner wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I haven't been in quite some time, but my reasons for not going are more practical than anything else.

Many people can leave home Saturday morning and still get to the game a few hours ahead of kickoff, have time to catch up with old friends, and still get home before the kids are in bed. That's not the case for me. I live about 500 miles away from ND, so if I were to drive to a ND game, it would become a weekend-long event. In that case, I'd be leaving my wife home alone for the entire weekend with a pre-schooler and a special-needs child, plus, on occasion, her infant granddaughter. Throw in the fact that my son is now into youth football, and I'd be missing his game as well if I went to a game before November. The combinatino of being old married guy with a young family, plus living so far away from campus, makes it difficult if not impossible to get back for the games.

I suppose I could fly, but the South Bend airport is tiny. Most people who fly in for games fly to Chicago then catch the bus/train or rent a car to ND. That makes for extra hassles.

Throw in the fact that one of the perks of being ND fan is that virtually all of your team's games are televised either nationally or over a significant region of the country, so it's extremely rare that I can't see a ND game on TV (I think the last time I couldn't see a game on TV was the Air Force game in '06).

My front door is 1,016 miles from Owen Field... OU has only had 4 games not televised this decade (three of them against Baylor)... excuses.

I can't miss my kid's youth football games. His season ends October 24. The Navy game is the day after my birthday, and I'm pretty sure my wife wouldn't appreciate me being out of town, alone, on my birthday. I'm gonna try to swing a trip for the UConn game on November 21.