T1B

Posted: **Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:10 pm**

That's pretty messed up.

Posted: **Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:14 pm**

That's fucked up, but it happens far more than it should. Good ol' boy justice reigns supreme in Kentucky as well.

Posted: **Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:35 pm**

Fucked up to say the least.

Drug laws are bullshit but everyone should have to get fucked by the same bullshit laws.

We all know that is not how it works.

Posted: **Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:41 pm**

In Kalifornia, it's Blue-and The Rest Of You.

Posted: **Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:11 pm**

Then there's Texas.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/01/tex ... google_cnn

Innocent dude killed ? Again ?

Meanwhile our cheese dick politicos can only sit back and smile with their "They Live" hairdos and toothy grins.

Whew, political nightmare narrowly averted. Heaven forbid we admit ... we were WRONG.

Posted: **Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:57 pm**

Tom In VA wrote:

Dude must be skilled in the art of keeping certain info hush hush. How else can one explain his ability to avoid being outed for so long?

Posted: **Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:27 pm**

What a douchebag. Amazed some slunt allowed him to slip his cack in her vadge.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:58 pm**

IndyFrisco wrote:What a douchebag. Amazed some slunt allowed him to slip his cack in her vadge.

If this dude ain't the ole ball coach's Pappy, who is?

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:25 pm**

mvscal wrote:
Tom In VA wrote:Innocent dude killed ?
Not a chance. Just anti-DP bedwetters doing their best to undermine public confidence in the process.

Nah. The clusterfuck that was the Illinois death penalty process already took care of that. Amazing how many innocent people they found on death row.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:39 pm**

IndyFrisco wrote:What a douchebag. Amazed some slunt allowed him to slip his cack in her vadge.

Whoa...let's not get too hasty...

Sincerely, WW

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:06 pm**

BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote:
Tom In VA wrote:Innocent dude killed ?
Not a chance. Just anti-DP bedwetters doing their best to undermine public confidence in the process.
Nah. The clusterfuck that was the Illinois death penalty process already took care of that. Amazing how many innocent people they found on death row.

In the Land of Blogo, Daley and Obama?

Not surprising at all.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:04 pm**

Jsc810 wrote:mvscal, there have been innocent people executed.

And there are some on Death Row now who are innocent.

I'm not talking about some legal argument about excluding evidence or some such, I'm talking actual innocence.

Believe me, I'm very much in favor of capital punishment. But it has to be done right.

Another good argument for allowing polygraph testimony to be admitted in court. Fewer cops perjuring themselves and DA's suborning said perjury means fewer wrongful prosecutions and executions.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:55 pm**

Diogenes wrote:Another good argument for allowing polygraph testimony to be admitted in court.

Somewhat off-topic, but my son-in-law has a job that requires him to maintain a top secret clearance, which entails being polygraphed. I haven't stayed on top of polygraph technology and assumed it was basically still done by strapping one up with sensors and electrodes. He was telling me his are now done with laser (or something similar) and there is nothing hooked up to the individual being tested. The lasers are able to detect and record the same information as before (cardio response, measured in terms of blood pressure variations, heartbeat and pulse wave, skin resistance, which is affected by the amount of perspiration, and respiratory activity). Seems pretty innovative.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:22 pm**

mvscal wrote:Again, who and how many?

Does it matter how many ? This isn't a game of percentages here and this is absolutely a situation that can be scrutinized to the highest level to ensure complete accuracy - with today's technology.

It's cheesedick prosecutors and politicians that usually look like this:

And do nightly teeth whitening to clean the fecal matter off their teeth that disallow the pursuit of such justice for bullshit - political - reasons. It has absolutely NOTHING to do, in my opinion, with degrading confidence in the process and has everything to do with cheesedicks COVERING THEIR OWN ASS.

I watch numerous documentaries on the matter on "CrimeTV" or "TruTV" and to a man - the men exhonerated - still believe strongly that our system is the best, it is. No question.

But I think going the extra mile and holding the folks in charge accountable is a necessary mile in establishing even more confidence in the process.

Frankly, I'd rather protect the innocent folks wrongly convicted than this guys job and political future.

http://ipoftexas.org/texas-cases/texas-exonerations/

http://www.exonerate.org/case-profiles/marvin-anderson/

Granted not all these are "death row" cases. But they are most certainly cases in which it appears there was more focus on convicting SOMEONE as opposed to THE ONE - who committed the crime.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:43 pm**

mvscal wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:mvscal, there have been innocent people executed.
How many? Let's put some real numbers on the table.

And there are some on Death Row now who are innocent.
Again, who and how many?

Kinda hard to put numbers to those who are on Death Row and are innocent, since if they've been legally determined to be innocent, they presumably wouldn't be on Death Row anymore. But there are some relevant stats available:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/innocen ... th-penalty
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/national/15death.html

The NY Times in 2004 wrote:* In the 1990's, an average of 290 people were sentenced to death each year. For the last four years, the average has been 174.
* In 2003, there were 143 death sentences issued, the fewest since 1977, the year after the Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty.
* The report says that 116 innocent people have been released from death row since 1973, after serving an average of nine years each.
* Judge Jed S. Rakoff of the Federal District Court in New York, using what he described as a more conservative methodology, said he counted 32 who served time on death row in recent decades and were indisputably innocent. Many prosecutors accept that number. "I think 30 is fair," said Joshua Marquis, the district attorney in Astoria, Ore., and co-chairman of the capital litigation committee of the National District Attorneys Association.
* "You're talking about an extremely small, microscopic number," said Ward A. Campbell, a supervising deputy state attorney general in Sacramento. The correct comparison, Mr. Campbell said, is between the roughly 7,000 death sentences issued since 1976 and the number of death-row inmates who were freed as authentically innocent.
* DNA has played a role in only 14 death-row exonerations.
* The [Death Penalty Information Center], a research group, says it takes no position on capital punishment, though it has been critical of the way the death penalty is applied. Supporters of the death penalty say the group's real agenda is the abolition of the capital punishment.
* "We've executed 928 people and freed 116," [Richard C. Dieter, the center's executive director] said, referring to recent decades. "Those are not good numbers."

It would appear that whatever the raw numbers are, the percentage of those later found innocent who were sentenced to death is ~ .5 to 3%. I suppose it's up to each individual to determine if that's acceptable in the name of justifying executions.

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:52 pm**

Tom In VA wrote:
mvscal wrote:Again, who and how many?

Does it matter how many ? This isn't a game of percentages here and this is absolutely a situation that can be scrutinized to the highest level to ensure complete accuracy - with today's technology.

It's cheesedick prosecutors and politicians that usually look like this:

BTW, Perry was never a prosecutor. And all the insipid attacks on him are due to the fact that he's doing a stand up job.

And as far as I know, none of the individuals in prison were prosecuted or convicted by the Governor

Posted: **Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:06 pm**

"like this"

They all have that look and that shit eating grin. I wasn't referring to Perry specifically.

Posted: **Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:03 am**

Why does this surprise anyone? Influence and affluence.....that's what the American Justice system has been bastardized into from countless incidents like this.

Around these parts a district judge's husband (he's also an powerfull attorney) was arrested for DUI-alcohol. Guy was a prick to the state trooper who arrested him...almost got tazed and had a charge of resisting arrest added. Guy was a prick at the jail and refused to change out of his thousand dollar tailored suit into an inmate uniform.

Nebraska law states you have to wait a MINIMUM of 4 hours before you can bond out on DUI. And you must be released to the custody of an immediate relative. Otherwise it's 8 hours min before you can bond.

This guy was released to his district judge wife 25 minutes after he arrived to the jail. Complete, bullshit that is against state statute. Also, the resisting charge was dropped/declined to prosecute by the county attorney.

Imagine how this makes the sworn officers who make the arrest feel?

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