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Generally not, no.

Any more genius observations??

Is 27 acceptable? Maybe 24?

Whatever. Seen MANY Pac10 shootouts over the years involving two good teams. Same thing for the Big 12, Big 10 and also the SEC. It happens sometimes. Sometimes the defenses just get their asses kicked. If it happens three or four times in a season then I see it as a problem. Once or twice, oh well. Some really entertaining football and some of the defenses really took it on the chin today. I was at the Cincinnati/UConn game tonight and I thought we had them buried more than once. I just give them credit for continuing to fight and nearly pull off the upset. UConn is a damned good team. Five losses by a total of 15 points. I look forward to seeing the UConn/ND game in a couple weeks.

I love all the brilliant analysis about what top ten teams do and don't do. Once you idiots are done applying your shit ass criteria you''re going to have to ask seven NFL teams to hang out in CFB for a weekend just so we have enough teams for an entire top ten.

Papa Willie wrote:

CintiBearcat92 wrote:Whatever. Seen MANY Pac10 shootouts over the years involving two good teams. Same thing for the Big 12, Big 10 and also the SEC. It happens sometimes. Sometimes the defenses just get their asses kicked. If it happens three or four times in a season then I see it as a problem. Once or twice, oh well. Some really entertaining football and some of the defenses really took it on the chin today. I was at the Cincinnati/UConn game tonight and I thought we had them buried more than once. I just give them credit for continuing to fight and nearly pull off the upset. UConn is a damned good team. Five losses by a total of 15 points. I look forward to seeing the UConn/ND game in a couple weeks.

You might as well cut your dick off after giving up that many points to a 4-4 team out of a weak conference. Sorry.

It's starting to look more and more like Pitt might actually have something. They'll probably beat Cincy. And if they do, you'll see Cincy go from 4 to about 20 in one loss.

Of all the Jerry Lewis teams in the Top 10 now (teams in lesser conferences), I think I'm sold on TCU the most right now. You can bet your ASS that they wouldn't have given up 45 points to a team like that.

It's so funny. Cincinnati is SO in your dome right now. Nearly every post you make takes a shot at the Bearcats and I think that says alot. You're threatened by us and I love it. You NEVER post anything about your own team. One thing is for sure though, the Bearcats would hang about 50 on Auburn this year. We'll have to come down to Alabama to do it though because you guys don't have the balls to play a team like us on the road. Pussies.

Papa Willie wrote: Doesn't matter - they certainly got taught a lesson in the Championship Game.

who didn't see this classic SECBSH back-pedal coming from 8 miles away?

make a statement, have it refuted more than once, retreat to off-topic, mostly irrelevant conference chest-thumping. you titled the thread "top 10 teams"....not "more conference dick waggling".

Come on, Sam. We've all seen LOTS of SEC shootouts over the last few years. Does that mean that SEC defenses suck? No, it just means that the offenses were better in that particular game. It's amazing how people will take the results of a game or two and define a team by that game. Cincinnati was allowing 12.9 points a game before yesterday and now because of one game our defense sucks. It sucked last night, that's for sure but UConn deserves credit what they did on the offensive side of the ball. I'm not worried about our defense at all. Now if they allow 40 again next week, I might start worrying a LITTLE bit but with the efficiency and effectiveness of our offense I don't have much of a reason for concern.

Believe the Heupel wrote:

Sudden Sam wrote:In Spray's defense, those of us who are lucky enough to live in the southeastern part of the United States are not used to seeing inept, helpless defenses. We've grown accustomed to big, fast kids who fly to the ball and know how to tackle.

Carry on.

Sincerely,

Tommie Frazier.

Sounds like a punk bitch to me.

Sincerely,
FSUs 1993 Defense

Sudden Sam wrote:In Spray's defense, those of us who are lucky enough to live in the southeastern part of the United States are not used to seeing inept, helpless defenses.

RACK.

You're just used to seeing inept offenses that only need to score 14 to win.

Believe the Heupel wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:Give up 35+ points in a game. Just sayin'.

Yeah!

Sincerely,

Last year's final BCS #2 and #3 team!

I hear that!

USC 2005 (Twice, including Fresno State)
LSU 2007 (43 to Kentucky and 50 to Arky)

M Club wrote:I love all the brilliant analysis about what top ten teams do and don't do. Once you idiots are done applying your shit ass criteria you''re going to have to ask seven NFL teams to hang out in CFB for a weekend just so we have enough teams for an entire top ten.

True. And once we're done with the "______________ doesn't belong in the BCS" comments from the denizens of this board, there aren't enough teams left to fill up the BCS.

Sudden Sam wrote:How the hell did Boise State stay in the top ten?!

There is no freakin' way they should be there.

Why not? They're undefeated. Who shouldreplace them in the Top 10?

The question you should be asking is how Iowa remains in the Top 10 and how USC has crept back in.

SS, what you're really complaining about is the size of D-1A and the inclusion of teams that you classify as high school equivalents. The NCAA has organized it's programs and Boise is playing their schedule. Besides, it's not like Boise's schedule is all that different from when they beat an elite program in a BCS bowl. Stop whining about teams going undefeated in D-1A ball. I'm just waiting for Boise, Cincy, and TCU winning out and two getting to a BCS bowl and both winning. Maybe it will shut some of you yappers up.

CintiBearcat92 wrote:We'll have to come down to Alabama to do it though because you guys don't have the balls to play a team like us on the road. Pussies.

Not trying to stick up for 'Spray, but Auburn is one of the few SEC team that travels to play OOC games. They did go to WVU in 2008.

Yes, Mucho, Auburn averages a road OOC game every THREE YEARS. The rest of this isn't directed at you but just to point out some interesting facts. WVa in 2008, at Clemson in 2011, at Kansas State in 2014, and at Georgia Tech in 2017. Most years are 8 home games and 4 away with 3 of the 4 OOC home games being against absolutely nobody. Compare that to the Bearcats OOCs for next few years:

2008: at Oklahoma
2009: at Oregon State, Fresno State, Illinois
2010: Oklahoma, at Fresno State, at NC State
2011: at Tennessee, NC State
2012: at Ohio State, at Miami FL, Virginia Tech
2013: at Illinois, Purdue
2014: at Ohio State, at Purdue

I'm sure there are a few other teams that can post OOC schedules that are as aggressive as Cincinnati's but I'd like to know, why can't every team schedule like this? Auburn and most other "elite" programs should be ashamed of their OOC schedules. Find me a team with a harder OOC schedule ANY year than Cincinnati's in 2012. I respect the hell out of FSU for playing Miami and Florida every year and they've played alot of other great teams over the years. Pac 10 teams usually schedule aggressively, too. I wish more teams would have balls to schedule 2 or 3 OOC games a year against other BCS teams.

Was that a rhetorical question? You know why elite teams don't schedule anything close to what Cinci is doing over the next several years. They're not going to jeapordize their season. For a team like Cinci that has everything to gain from scheudling like this, an elite program has nearly everything to lose and a win is only marginally helpful in most years for a Florida, Texas, etc. as they're racking up quality wins in conference play.

The problem is that it's always the "elite" schools that bitch about the schedules of other teams. They fill their OOC schedules with shit teams and then point to 2 or 3 tough conference games and act like their schedule is SO difficult. It's bullshit. EVERYONE has 2 or 3 tough conference games. I disagree that Cincinnati has everything to gain by scheduling like that. We could schedule 4 or 5 shit teams and then hope to get through the Big East undefeated or with one loss and make a BCS bowl but we don't do that. You answered my question though.....most elite programs are simply afraid to schedule many OOC games against teams that can actually beat them, especially road games.

And to demonstrate the point...look at the hype surrounding the OSU-Texas and OSU-SC games. OSU, Texas, and SC shcedules them and when they arrive they are billed as games of the season or even decade. The significance of these games demonstrates that they don't happen enough and that they are the exception. Except for the SEC, though. Seems each year there are monster, monster games outside of the conference championship.

I'm a Michigan homer, but I don't reserve judgment of them. They brought in Colorado, they brought in FSU, they brought in Oregon...and they lost all three. Now we see App State. We see Delaware State in the middle of the season. And these go along with the usual Baylor, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Miami (Ohio) nonsense. They should get props for the annual Notre Dame game, but their other two to three OOC games are absolutely horrible.

2010 sees UConn, Massachusetts, and Bowling Green at home. Pathetic. UConn will be a tough game because RichRod sucks and the other two will be easy wins despite RichRod sucking.

I think every BCS conference team should be required to have at least one home and one road OOC game against other BCS teams every season. Maybe it should be on a rotating or random basis as well. Otherwise you'd have most of the teams seeking out Indiana, Syracuse, Duke, Baylor, Vanderbilt, and Washington State to avoid tougher games.

Papa Willie wrote:It's real easy, stupid fuck. When a program understands the fact that they are in a shitty conference, they beg for big OOC games. When you're in the SEC, you understand that you are playing in the best conference, and your IN CONFERENCE games MORE than make up for your OOC schedule.

So what happens when the conference has a down year? I think you will even admit that the SEC is way down this season. The SEC East is an absolute joke. UF clinched the SEC Championship game in October for crying out loud. I'd have a tough time arguing for the SEC as the toughest conference in the country this season.

Your rationale for avoiding good OOC games is weak. Isn't the weak OOC what prevented Auburn from playing for the National Championship?

CintiBearcat92 wrote:I think every BCS conference team should be required to have at least one home and one road OOC game against other BCS teams every season.

I like that idea. We pretty much do that each season:

2009 - @FSU, MIAMI
2010 - @Miami, @Florida
2011 - @Notre Dame, MIAMI
2012 - FSU, @Miami
2013 - @Michigan State, MIAMI

I am fully aware of that. We could just go and schedule another Non-BCS program and be just like the SEC.

I would rather see us play 3 OOC BCS games a year and drop the 1 AA game.