Tragic situation at LA hospitals

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:44 am

New just reported that there has been an influx of lower leg injuries reported at ALL Southern California hospitals. Broken legs, busted ankles, twisted ankles, torn knees. The weird thing doctors are reporting is that EVERY patient was wearing $C gear. Cause of injury is: Many people are jumping off the bandwagon.

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SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:49 am

Pitt 27 French Whores 9 10:25 to go in the 4th

H4ever · Post by **H4ever** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:00 am

Laxplayer wrote:New just reported that there has been an influx of lower leg injuries reported at ALL Southern California hospitals. Broken legs, busted ankles, twisted ankles, torn knees. The weird thing doctors are reporting is that EVERY patient was wearing $C gear. Cause of injury is: Many people are jumping off the bandwagon.

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Rack it! x 100!!!!

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:25 am

I'm glad they lost you fucking idiot. Now they can fire charlie weis and hire someone who actually knows what the fuck they're doing. As for you....well your a lost cause and I laugh at your misery and your pathetic team losing again....getting plungered AGAIN........

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:28 am

A pathetic team that STILL beat the French Whores of Notre Dame in South Bend

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:03 pm

Michigan beat Notre Dame...I'm not sure how much of a badge of honor that should be this year.

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:42 pm

Don't forget pedophile Joe Francis...

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:01 pm

The Worst Ball Sucking Bandwagoning Homer Evah?

Hey Bill, when you get finished crying about how far SC has fallen, whining about a supposed "insult" that nobody but you will remember by next week, and generally denigrating the Stanford team, individual players and generally the entire program you might find at least a few lines to give some credit to the team that just finished kicking your suddenly former favorite team up and down the field on both sides of the ball.

Could we ever hope for something like that?
Probably not

A culture crash for Trojans
Seven years of near-invincibility have gone down the drain this season, capped by the 55-21 loss to Stanford.
Bill Plaschke

November 15, 2009

A Stanford senior communications major stood in the middle of a nearly empty stadium, the homecoming crowd having long since gone home, and administered the latest plunge into the heart of a USC football season.

Richard Sherman had earlier leaped in front of a Matt Barkley pass and returned it for a touchdown.

He had then posed for the cameras while jeering, "I'm 2 and 0 in the Coliseum. Fight on, SC!"

But this was worse. This was about more than a 34-point deficit on the scoreboard. This was about an unimaginable deficit in a culture.

Said Sherman of the Trojans: "You could just see that everything is not there. They don't run as hard. They don't play as hard."

And thus a team that has spent its entire season searching for an identity finally found one, captured beautifully by a thoughtful student dressed in eye black and grass stains and a 55-21 Stanford victory.

The 2009 Trojans: They don't run as hard. They don't play as hard.

It was homecoming in name only Saturday, USC returning to a place of unfamiliarity and unrest, a team of strangers in a Coliseum of brooding and boos.

After seven years as a national championship contender, they are now a team capable of yielding the most points in school football history -- that's 121 years, people! -- to a perennial loser whose starting lineup would barely fit on their depth chart.

"It's like everything turned bad," USC linebacker Malcolm Smith said.

After seven years of leading the nation in toughness, they are now a team capable of giving up 325 smash-mouth rushing yards to a team that simply handed the ball to a block-shaped running back.

"They brought it and they kept bringing it," safety Taylor Mays said. "Something was wrong. Something didn't feel right."

After seven years of offensive smarts, they committed four dumb turnovers against the nation's 82nd-ranked defense while gaining 26 yards on their final four drives.

"I'm not sure I have the right words to describe being humbled like this," Coach Pete Carroll said.

Why not just pull out the script from the Washington and Oregon games? In one form or another, this has been happening all season.

The Trojans have played USC-dominating football, what, maybe three times? As the stakes get higher, the quality of effort and intensity drops, with this latest debacle costing them even the remotest of chances at a Rose Bowl or other Bowl Championship Series game.

At this rate, Hollywood's team will be lucky to be spending New Year's Eve in El Paso.

In fact, before Saturday's game, Sun Bowl brochures were mysteriously placed at writers' seats in the press box.

I covered it in chips and peanut shells at the time. I'm digging it up now.

"This isn't us," Mays protested.

Oh yes, it is. After 10 games of it, it's all you, a team of highly recruited stars who suddenly behave as if they are being neither taught nor motivated

After seven years as the bully, they are now being bullied.

Exhibit One: Early in the second quarter, after a 15-yard pass moved Stanford to the USC three-yard line, the Cardinal hustled out of a no-huddle offense and handed the ball to Toby Gerhart.

USC was so flustered, seemingly half of their defense was running on and off the field during the play.

USC was so feeble, the defenders who found their positions were bulldozed by the Stanford line for a Gerhart three-yard touchdown.

Two Trojans penalties on the play, and the guy still scores.

"We came into a very intimidating place and made a strong statement," said Gerhart, who gained 178 yards, scored three times, and should at least be invited to New York for the Heisman Trophy ceremony.

Exhibit Two: Leading by 27 points with 8:47 remaining in the game, Harbaugh ordered his team to attempt a two-point conversion.

The Trojans held, but the angry Trojans and their booing fans will never forget, nor should they. The coaches exchanged words while leaving the field, but danced around it afterward.

Said Carroll: "I don't know what they were thinking with that."

Said Harbaugh: "I felt like our line was in a groove. . . . We went for it because we thought we could get it."

I then asked Harbaugh if he was concerned that such a move would tarnish the victory and send the wrong message, but he gave the identical nonsensical answer about his line being in a groove, totally avoiding the issue.

So, fine, I'll ask Harbaugh again.

This is what you teach? This is how Stanford wants you to coach? Aren't you both supposed to be better than that?

By the time USC gets another crack at Stanford next season, Harbaugh probably will be gone to someplace like Michigan, leaving the kids to feel the brunt of their coach's lack of class, and isn't college football grand?

For now, with next weekend off before they face UCLA, the Trojans have bigger worries. Their defense is in chaos, their game plan is in tatters, Matt Barkley isn't even the best freshman quarterback in his own town, and early on this sad Saturday evening, Pete Carroll violated his own trademark.

Always compete?

"I'm glad that we have a bye," said Carroll, which says it all.

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:34 pm

Fuck SC and all their booing fans after they went for 2. I guess their memory is short. Those fuckers have hung 50 on lots of people the last few years. It's about time they got a dose of their own medicine. Fuck em.

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:13 pm

CintiBearcat92 · Post by **CintiBearcat92** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:27 pm

Anybody running up the score on anybody is pathetic but going for 2 with a 4 TD lead is beyond that. You can't tell your backups to stop playing hard or to take it easy on another team but that was such an obvious attempt to embarrass SC and it has no place in college football. Lax, your hatred of SC is blinding you. It was a bush league move by Harbaugh and you know it. SC's players didn't deserve it nor do the players of any team. If someone had done that to ND I'm betting your reaction would be slightly different. Stuff like that really comes back to haunt you at some point and Harbaugh will most likely learn that.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:35 pm

It's not Stanford's job to stop scoring, it's USC's job to stop them. While going for two may be a bit much, Carroll has been known to pull some bush league shit from time to time. Like running a fake punt against ND in 2004 when they were already up 21 or 24 points. Either way, stop them and they won't do shit like that again.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:39 pm

I wonder if SoCalCockJam bitched about the 2 point conversion, immediately after he mercied a wheelchair flag football team 87-0 for wanting to shake hands at midfield.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:05 pm

Going for two points is "running up the score"?

Give me a fucking break. It would have made a 1 point difference, and they didn't make it anyway. Maybe Harbaugh was being kind by giving them a chance to stop the conversion, which they most likely wouldn't have been able to do on a kick. Maybe the kicker was off somewhere boinking one of the SC song girls, who by that time were glad to be part of the pillage laid down on the Trojans, and he couldn't make it onto the field in time.

Second string offense scored another easy TD a few minutes later so they broke 50 anyway. Should they have taken a knee at the one to avoid bruising Petey's and Cincibearcat's fragile egos?

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:29 pm

Lax, your hatred of SC is blinding you. It was a bush league move by Harbaugh and you know it. SC's players didn't deserve it nor do the players of any team. If someone had done that to ND I'm betting your reaction would be slightly different. Stuff like that really comes back to haunt you at some point and Harbaugh will most likely learn that.

Oh no my hatred for them is clearly visible. As far as running up the score here are a few games over the Pete Carrol era where the score is a bit questionable.

I guess hanging 60+ on Hawaii in 2003 is ok.
Or hanging 50+ on Oregon State in 03 is OK.
2004:
USC 49-CSU-0
USC 42 BYU 10
USC 45 ASU 7
USC 49-Ariz 9

2005
USC 63-Hawaii 17
USC 70 Arkansas 17
USC 45 Oregon 13
USC 51 Washington 24
USC 55 WSU 13
USC 51 Stanf 21

2006
USC 50 Arkansas 14
USC 42 Stanford 0

2008
USC 52 UVA 7
USC 44 Oregon 10
USC 69 Washington State 0
USC 56 Washington 0
USC 38 ND 3

If anyone hung that amount on ND I'd be more pissed off that ND sucks ass.....kind of like they do now. Shit I hope they lose the rest of their games by 50 so they can finally realize CW needs to go.
It's not AYSO soccer. You don't get a juice box and rice krispy treat after the game for trying.
I agree running up the score is not cool but look at Chetey Petey's numbers over the years. He had it coming. His players act like fucking thugs when they're up a lot, they make sure they stay on the field to shake hands and celebrate when they win but when they lose they're off the field like greased shit through a goose.
Is it right? Hell no. Is it part of the game? Yep. Am I happy that they got fucking boat raced on Saturday? You can't imagine my happiness.

I've had teams run the score up on me and I used to get pissed, however it's my fault. We weren't good enough and we need to get better. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Get better or go home.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:36 pm

Laxplayer wrote:
I agree running up the score is not cool but look at Chetey Petey's numbers over the years. He had it coming. His players act like fucking thugs when they're up a lot, they make sure they stay on the field to shake hands and celebrate when they win but when they lose they're off the field like greased shit through a goose.

*accurate historical fact

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:53 am

At this rate, Hollywood's team will be lucky to be spending New Year's Eve in El Paso.

In fact, before Saturday's game, Sun Bowl brochures were mysteriously placed at writers' seats in the press box.

Hey, El Paso isn't that bad.

Btw, anybody checked hospital emergency rooms for Van? He seems strangely silent the past few days.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:55 am

War Wagon wrote:Btw, anybody checked hospital emergency rooms for Van? He seems strangely silent the past few days.

I wouldn't worry too much about Van. If he survived the Tollner years, he'll get through this.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:29 am

Wags, I just haven't felt like adding anything. Going for two when it's late in the game and you're up by 900 is clearly classless. Straight up, it's rubbing it in. Not sure why Harbaugh felt the need to do that, since he really hasn't been on the receiving end of any USC beat downs while at Stanford.

Regardless, going for two at the end of a blowout has nothing to do with Lax's erroneous point. Yes, USC has won in a lot of blowouts, but I can assure you, Pete never went for two in a situation like that, and I can also assure that Pete has called off the dogs more times than I care to count.
Had Pete really wanted to, he could've turned a lot of those 50-7 games into 77-0 games, simply be leaving his starters in the entire game and continuing to attack, on both sides of the ball. He doesn't do that, and he's never done that. He's sat on many a lead, emptying his bench.

Yea, he's won in a lot of blowouts, but he's also gone out of his way to leave a ton of points out on the field, rather than hanging them up on the scoreboard.

Regardless, WGARA? When you get destroyed the way USC was destroyed, fretting over classless two point plays is akin to worrying about lost deck chairs from the Titanic. The only relevant thing about Harbaugh's decision to rub it in is that at some point Pete will pay him back, which the Stanford kids won't deserve. They'll be made to the pay the price for their coach's lack of class, and hopefully none of them will get hurt.

Overall? I said before the season began that this entire season would be one long exhibition season, a warm up act for the Florida-Texas title game. I said I really had a bad feeling about this season, and that I wasn't as into it this year, knowing the title game match up was a near inevitability.

I've seen nothing to change that feeling, and USC's trainwreck has only added to my ennui about the whole damn thing.

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:49 pm

Regardless, going for two at the end of a blowout has nothing to do with Lax's erroneous point. Yes, USC has won in a lot of blowouts, but I can assure you, Pete never went for two in a situation like that, and I can also assure that Pete has called off the dogs more times than I care to count.

Sorry to confuse your little tear session with some facts Vanny boy. I'm really not sure how you don't run up the score when you're hanging 50, 60, even 70 on teams. I guess if you score 60 in the 3rd quarter with your starters then put in scrubs that's calling off the dogs. I guess hanging 70 on teams is calling off the dogs. Fuck you and your holier than thou attitude. Pete's done his share of plunger raping teams and you know it. Your panties are just all in a bunch because now it's happening to you and your beloved toejams. Yes it will come back to haunt Harbaugh one day, just like it did to Petey Pie.
The real joy was hearing all those bitch ass $ucsters booing Harbaugh as they continued their ass raping of your beloved men from troy, then all you fuckers left....nice.....and that fucking band kept playing that gay ass fight song. I'm wondering how they wee able to play with shower rods shoved up their asses....... Ha......

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:09 pm

You're just wrong, Lax. Blowouts happen. They're a natural result of one team being way more talented than the other. Rubbing it in doesn't just happen. Pete never rubs it in, the way Harbaugh did.

Last year, against WSU, Pete did everything possible to keep that game under 70. USC could have easily scored 100 that game, and he made them stop at 69.

Many, many times he's made them sit on the ball and let the clock run out, when USC was in the other team's redzone, poised for an easy score.

Going for two, late in a blow out? Keeping his star QB and TB in the whole game of a blow out? You need to watch more USC football. Pete doesn't do things like that. He gives his reserves ample playing time during blowouts, and there is no way in hell he'd ever go for two in that situation.

Your nearly insane hatred for USC truly is clouding your perception. You're not seeing things straight.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:51 pm

Van wrote:Pete never rubs it in, the way Harbaugh did.

How about a fake punt when you're up by 24 late in the 3rd?

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:59 pm

What about it? It's 24, in the 3rd. The game hasn't been decided yet.

Going for two during a blow out, late in the fourth, when the game has already been decided? That's rubbing it in.

Does anybody know why Harbaugh has such an axe to grind against Pete? Why was he willing to do such a blatantly disrespectful thing? Is there some history there of which I'm unaware?

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:02 pm

Apparently. Spell it out for me. What's their history?

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:12 pm

Van wrote:What about it? It's 24, in the 3rd. The game hasn't been decided yet.

ND hadn't scored a TD at that point of the game right?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:15 pm

Van wrote:What about it? It's 24, in the 3rd. The game hasn't been decided yet.

Going for two during a blow out, late in the fourth, when the game has already been decided? That's rubbing it in.

Does anybody know why Harbaugh has such an axe to grind against Pete? Why was he willing to do such a blatantly disrespectful thing? Is there some history there of which I'm unaware?

Geezusfukkingkreist Van.

These are men we're talking about, right? Grown men? Grown up heterosexual white male men with college educations, right?

If Petey, or anybody else (including you BTW) would let someting like that get under their oh so sensitive skin then they deserve a real life public buttfukking in the mouf, and to have it broadcast on national TV.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:16 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Pete owned the Pac 10 for seven years, Harbaugh just kicked him in the nuts as a favor for the rest of the league.

What's the big deal? Jesus fucking Christ. This is the day of hysterics and handwringing in BTPCFB. First M Cunt, now you.

Talking about hysterics and handwringing, that's precisely what you're doing now, by making a big deal out of this. I already said...

Regardless, WGARA? When you get destroyed the way USC was destroyed, fretting over classless two point plays is akin to worrying about lost deck chairs from the Titanic. The only relevant thing about Harbaugh's decision to rub it in is that at some point Pete will pay him back, which the Stanford kids won't deserve. They'll be made to the pay the price for their coach's lack of class, and hopefully none of them will get hurt.

Does that really sound like I'm making a big deal about it? No, it doesn't.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:25 pm

Van wrote:What about it? It's 24, in the 3rd. The game hasn't been decided yet.

Give me a fucking break, Van. The ND USC game had long been decided when Pete faked a punt to let Leinart pad his stats for the Heisman. In fact I was wrong. The fake punt happened in the 4th, and Leinart threw a TD with 6:50 left to make it 41-10. That wasn't running up the score.

Or Carson Palmer throwing a TD pass to put them up 31 with 7:15 to go. And keeping him in the next drive.

Your claim that Petey doesn't run up the score is a fucking joke.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:31 pm

Who really knows why Harbaugh tried disrespecfully to tack on another big point?

Maybe he was already thinking about next year. Maybe he's looking for motivation for his own players when they meet in Palo Alto in 2010. Like, "Hey guys not only did we put a huge beat down on them last year, but we disrespected them. We'd better be fucking ready".

Or, maybe he was tweaking the Trojan's noses into getting out of control next year and putting revenge ahead of playing the game to win. If they're not motivated enough already then they shouldn't be on the field in the first place.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:17 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:For me, it's only acceptable when playing Notre Dame.

11/28

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:18 pm

11/28

It's coming, fukkos.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:21 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:For me, it's only acceptable when playing Notre Dame.

And I have no problem with it. Don't want to be embarassed? Don't suck. Don't want them to run it up? Stop them.

The only time I ever get pissed about it is when clearly supperior teams beat the piss out of clearly inferior teams and try to break the scoreboard. Other than that, fuck 'em. It's their job to stop you, not the other way around.

Bobby Bowden ran it up on Holtz when Lou was at William and Marry. When Holtz got to NC State (I think this was it), he onside kicked when he was up by about 35. This shit all comes around.

Houston used to do this shit all the time against the also rans. Ware, Klingler, Klingler, all had huge numbers because Houston played the game like it was Xbox. They did it to Illinois and then came into a game against Michigan where UofM proceeded to kick the ever loving shit out of Houston and were throwing the ball late in the game.

Harbaugh will get mud stomped at some point, but until then, who fucking cares?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:30 pm

Killian wrote:The only time I ever get pissed about it is when clearly supperior teams beat the piss out of clearly inferior teams and try to break the scoreboard. Other than that, fuck 'em. It's their job to stop you, not the other way around.

Yeah, there's something a little ridiculous about big bad USC crying about Stanford scoring some points on them. Ummm, you're USC, you're supposed to have the best players in the country. Beyond that, they were supposed to have one of if not the best defense in the country.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:26 pm

I think the real tragedy here isn't the fact Stanford went for two.

The real tragedy is they didn't make it.

No, it wasn't running it up; it was rubbing it in. And it was kind of funny. Would have been much better had they converted.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm

I'm still looking for any example anywhere of a USC fan "crying over" the two point play attempt.

I see us talking about it here, debating whether it was "making a statement" vs "rubbing it in" vs "running up the score," but I see nobody making a big deal over it.

I sure as fuck haven't. I made my feelings on the matter eminently clear, when I compared it to lost deck chairs on the Titanic.

My only real comment about it is the question as to why Harbaugh did it? To so something so blatantly unsportsmanlike, when there was no prior incident to provoke it, it just strikes me as odd. Harbaugh's never been on the losing end of a "run up the score" type of game at the hands of USC, and nobody in the Pac 10 ever goes for two late in a blowout, just to rub it in.

That's Georgia's players all running into the endzone against Florida territory, or Urban Meyer calling late time out after late time out the following year against Georgia territory. It's that blatant.

Pete's never done that; not to anyone, much less to Harbaugh and Stanford. To me, there has to be more to the story than Harbaugh simply wanting to shove it in the longtime conference bully's nose.

It seemed personal to him.

Pete's supposed reaction to Harbaugh after the game, his "What's your deal?" comment at midfield, that's what I'm getting at too. I'm just curious about the background story, is all.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:41 pm

Van wrote:Pete's never done that; not to anyone, much less to Harbaugh and Stanford.

What do you call running a fake punt mid way through the fourth quarter when you are up 24 just so you can get your QB to throw his fifth touchdown to pad his Heisman stats on national TV?

Stop saying Pete hasn't done anything like that. He has.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:48 pm

Killian, I said he's never gone for two, late in a blowout. I didn't say "like that," I said specifically that; reason being, it's beyond blatant. Harbaugh wasn't just trying to pad his player's Heisman stats, or run up the score to impress the pollsters, or anything even remotely 'defensible' like those things are in this modern CF climate.

Even by your own estimation, that's what Pete was doing.

Harbaugh? He wasn't helping his cause at all, by going for two; not his team's chances in the polls, nor his players' chances for individual awards. He was simply making a blatant statement, like Meyer calling those time outs, or Richt having his players all run into the endzone.

If you don't see the difference, you're an idiot. You're not an idiot, so shut up about it already. The comparison you keep trying to make holds no water. They're not at all the same things.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:55 pm

Van wrote:The comparison you keep trying to make holds no water. They're not at all the same things.

Van, as a neutral onlooker...

stay down, bud. You're getting sbhooled, and your twisted-ass semantics debate is only making it work.

The issue was "no class" moves, and they've been laid out very clearly for you.

The "yeah, but it wasn't a two point conversion lack-of-class move" bit is pretty much justifying the USC pile-on, and proving every negative statement that's been made about your fans over the incident.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:58 pm

Van wrote:Pete never rubs it in, the way Harbaugh did.

I guess you see a difference between trying to score one extra point in a game that is already well decided and scoring 7 points in a game that is already well decided.

Van wrote:Going for two, late in a blow out? Keeping his star QB and TB in the whole game of a blow out? You need to watch more USC football. Pete doesn't do things like that. He gives his reserves ample playing time during blowouts, and there is no way in hell he'd ever go for two in that situation.

Again, perhaps he hasn't gone for two but he has kept his star QB and TB in the game for the specific reason to pad stats. That's rubbing it in. You're right, going for 2 against a conference foe with the express intention of embarassing them is different that fake punting and going for a touch down against an arch rival with the express intention of embarassing them. One is worth 1 extra point, the other is worth at least 6 and up to 8. But Pete won't go for 2, so it probably will always be 7 in that case.

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:04 pm

Dins, you're about as neutral an onlooker as a Bavarian field marshal.

You're also intentionally ignoring the point I made. I don't care that it happened, I'm just curious as to why he chose to do something so blatant. Even Killian says Pete did what he did to help his player win a Heisman, which, as a coach, can be construed as a defensible move. Scoring "style points" with the pollsters by winning big can also be construed as a defensible move.

Going for two late in a blowout accomplishes neither of those things, nor does it accomplish anything at all which will benefit the team. It's simply a blatant "Fuck you!" to the opponent, akin to Meyer's time outs and Richt's endzone rush. It's symbolic, and nothing else.