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R-Jack wrote:I can't speak about the intentions or interpretations in the south, but when folks who are California born and bred are sporting the Confederate flag, it is a thoughtful reminder from them to the rest of the world that they are of below average intelligence, blurred the lines of molestation at least once and are generally unemployable.

Hope that helps a little bit Marty.

Dinsdale wrote:Oh, it speaks quite clearly about the South -- stupid fucking inbreds even get dressed up in the reenactment garb, and fly their flag...

mvscal wrote:

Martyred wrote:Also, why would anyone want to fly a rebel flag? It's not the flag of a country.

But it is part of our heritage however much some politically correct handwringers would like to sanitize it from the record. It is the single most dramatic and traumatic event in American history. Rejection of and rebellion against distant authority insensitive to local economic concerns remains part of the American character.

Martyred wrote:

Was there not some clause in the terms of surrender that forbid displaying the Confederate Flag?

Stanley Pickkkle wrote:If I was any more of a reciever for dark leathery balls.................Matt Millen would draft me.

Dinsdale wrote: Maybe I'm just trying in vain to prove I can discuss other topics besides fucking your mom.

Dinsdale wrote:One could make a strong case that the Civil War (the 19th Century fracas, not the great rivalry game) was an inevitability given the fed's rampant desire to take greater control of the emerging scope of the national turmoil that was sure to come, and had already begun, with the huge expansion during the Manifest Destiny phase of America, and slavery was merely the rallying cry for what was a constitutional issue of states' rights, and had it not been slavery, something else would have come to the forefront.

So while hostilities began under the umbrella of slavery, it could have been any of numerous other issues, all leading down the same road -- the power-mongers wanting greater control (read: wealth) over rapidly emerging markets. But slavery was such an emotionally charged topic, on the heels of the rampant success of Uncle Tom's Cabin and the heightened awareness it brought, so slavery the issue was.

Nevermind that slavery remained legal in the North... there is that.

OK, maybe not. Maybe I'm just trying in vain to prove I can discuss other topics besides fucking your mom.

Martyred wrote:
Wow. Could you possibly spare any time from the thesaurus you're currently nailing?

BSmack wrote:There was no other issue that sufficiently threatened the south's plantation economy.

The south was even perfectly content to allow Andrew Jackson to buttfuck them in the mouth with high tariffs when push came to shove.

Dinsdale wrote:
Sorry to dispell your notion that I'm something other than Dinsepedia, but I actually know a thing or two about a thing or two --

Dinsdale wrote:Thanks for having my back here -- the overstepping of constitutional powers, and uneven application of federal revenue sources (to fuel the North's lust to man the explosive growth of the Industrial Revolution, and the immigrants that powered it) was the actual cause of the war, and slavery was the... damn I hate to use the term, but slavery was the "strawman" rolled out to reel inb states' rights, so the influence-peddlers benefitting from the Industrial Revolution could prosper without being too much out of pocket.

If anyone on this board thinks any war in human history was fought over any other issue besides wealth/resources, plaese chime in here... so the rest of us can laugh uncontrollably.

R-Jack wrote:I can't speak about the intentions or interpretations in the south, but when folks who are California born and bred freak out over the Confederate flag, it is a thoughtful reminder from them to the rest of the world that they are of below average intelligence, blurred the lines of molestation at least once and are generally unemployable.

Dinsdale wrote:In my Devil's Advocacy, you guys have made my point for me (although my guise of "it wasn't slavery" fell by the wayside right about on schedule).

My point being, as Bri so eloquently put, that slavery was the lynchpin, not the reason.

Sudden Sam wrote:Imagine you had ancestors who fought to protect their land and their way of life. A lot of those ancestors were killed in battle or died in prison camps. 150 years later, people are telling you that your ancestors were horrible people...even though you know they were good people. Hard-working, honest people. I think that's why a lot of people in the south like the Confederate battle flag. And they're proud those ancestors had the balls to tell the federal government to fuck off...we're outta here.

I don't know of any relatives of mine who fought. Never checked into it. My mom was an Alabamian and my dad was from Ohio, so I'm sure I had some on each side, as we all probably did.

Toddowen wrote:What the fork ever, Uncle T in Crap....and I DO mean CRAP!!!


Go stick some fukken meat in your mouth, you babbling lower tier barrister. Take a holiday from trying to make some sort of cuddly group hug point.

Dinsdale wrote:If anyone on this board thinks any war in human history was fought over any other issue besides wealth/resources, plaese chime in here... so the rest of us can laugh uncontrollably.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote::puke:


That 'ho is nasty.

smackaholic wrote:

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote::puke:


That 'ho is nasty.

c'mon man, she ain't a ten, but, you'd hit it just like the rest of us, well, most of us anywho.

Sudden Sam wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Martyred wrote:Also, why would anyone want to fly a rebel flag? It's not the flag of a country.

But it is part of our heritage however much some politically correct handwringers would like to sanitize it from the record. It is the single most dramatic and traumatic event in American history. Rejection of and rebellion against distant authority insensitive to local economic concerns remains part of the American character.

Sorta sounds familiar.



Marty,

Imagine you had ancestors who fought to protect their land and their way of life. A lot of those ancestors were killed in battle or died in prison camps. 150 years later, people are telling you that your ancestors were horrible people...even though you know they were good people. Hard-working, honest people. I think that's why a lot of people in the south like the Confederate battle flag. And they're proud those ancestors had the balls to tell the federal government to fuck off...we're outta here.

I don't know of any relatives of mine who fought. Never checked into it. My mom was an Alabamian and my dad was from Ohio, so I'm sure I had some on each side, as we all probably did. I think the battle flag is a beautiful design, but I don't keep one around or fly one. But I do understand why some people like it. A lot of folks down here who have them don't know a damn thing about the war...or whether they had ancestors who fought for the south...or anything else about the flag. They're morons who act like idiots and think it's cool to have one. There are others, in the north and south, who don't know anything about the war either...and they accuse everyone who likes the flag of being a racist. Those people are also morons who act like idiots.

I think it's a pride thing for those who actually know something about history. Southerners were so rundown after the war, and are still crawling out from under the economic oppression that followed...it's like southern football. It's something to feel good about.

Hell, I don't know. A lot of dumbasses have Confederate battle flags and a lot of very smart, good, non-racist people have 'em, too.

Have a good holiday.

Dinsdale wrote: it's that Asperger's thing, or so they tell me.

mvscal wrote:

SunCoastSooner wrote:they have re-written history to make it seem as though the war was over slavery when it most certainly was not at the time

Guess a-fucking-gain, dipshit. Or were the various articles of secession by the Southern states rewritten after the war?

It's OK to not know what the fuck you're talking about, but it's a pretty good idea to shut the fuck up when that is the case.