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Is taking SMU to a bowl game. Looks like he is a bad ass coach to turn thAt cluster fuck around. First Hawaii and now SMU? How come he does not pop up on the radar for any big time openings?

campinfool wrote:Is taking SMU to a bowl game. Looks like he is a bad ass coach to turn thAt cluster fuck around. First Hawaii and now SMU? How come he does not pop up on the radar for any big time openings?

Gimmick offense that has only ever worked with the mid majors and when it matches up against better defenses tends to get crushed.

Okay, but does he get crushed because of the gimmick offense or due to talent level? Urban Meyer ran a gimmick offense at Utah and brought it with him to FLA and he is a meat beater's poster child.

campinfool wrote:Urban Meyer ran a gimmick offense at Utah and brought it with him to FLA and he is a meat beater's poster child.

That "gimmick" is responsible for a sea change in every level of football. People are emulating it, not laughing at it.

What he runs and what June Jones runs are two completely different animals.

How come he does not pop up on the radar for any big time openings?

Maybe because he has the same first name as I do?

Sin,

campinfool wrote:Okay, but does he get crushed because of the gimmick offense or due to talent level? Urban Meyer ran a gimmick offense at Utah and brought it with him to FLA and he is a meat beater's poster child.

Dude is right there in North Texas where he can recruit any number of at least 3 star players out of Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, or New Mexico. Talent isn't the issue. The offense is meant to exploit defenses who have at least two or three deficiencies in the defensive backfield.

I think the SMU faithful, whats left of them, will take what they can get. My wife is a SMU alum and we make it to 3-4 games a year. This year has been the most exciting that I can remember. The student body still doesn't attend the games. It's frustraiting to see 25-30K tailgating on the Blvd and maybe half of them make it into the game. If Jones can win 8-9 games a year, contend for a conference championship every year, hell maybe make a TCU type run, that fan base will be beside themselves. I think SMU is still hamstrung with higher academic standards for athletes then what the TCU and Boise St's don't have to worry with. I think when June got hired he eased things up a bit. It will be fun to watch the next 3-4 years. His recruiting classes are already the best that program has seen since mid 80's.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah ,but that is what I'm taling about. Did Hawaii get crushed by the Georgia defense because of formations and play calling or just dominated by better athletes. Could he win bg games with his system if he had the players of Tex, Fla, or the like. Seems like he would be a better hire for some than some of the retreads popping up on the radar of some teams.

It's not a gimmick, it's just the spread's predecessor the run-and-shoot.

Danimal wrote:run-and-shoot.

Which, in it's "modern form," came from my high school, thank you very much.

The R&S, in the Old Days, was a huuuuge breakthough in U&L football. Back before all the high schools went to artificial turf, it was important -- by the end of the high school season, it's the Wet Season. Without getting too long-winded (that was a self-effacing Dins joke), with the sloppy soils in the Valley, traction is non-existant in the late season -- very short passes to the backs become the weapon of choice (and BTW-fuck artificial turf for ruining "Northwest-style football").

I guess my point being, it was bred somewhat out of neccessity, not so much a "gimmick."

But anyhoo -- at one time, Oregon's QB depth chart read: Dan Fouts, June Jones, and Norv Turner. Not a bad lineup. Jones transferred to Portland State, and enjoyed big success in the R&S.

GOOOOOOOO Junebug. Get yourself paid, brother.

ELIMINATED.

It's really no worse than someone not only habitually using "different than," but actually defending that bit of grammatical butchery.