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Navy was pretty solid this year.

PSUFAN wrote:Navy was pretty solid this year.

Yes they were good, but Mizzou has more talent. With so much time to prep Mizzou should've been ready for the option. Plus Navy wasn't bringing much up-front on D, you gotta run at that. Coaching fail.

Danimal wrote: Coaching fail.

HUGE Coaching Fail - We need to find a Mike Anderson in the CFB ranks, someone who can gameplan and get max performance out of the kids, whether they're blue chips or not.

Pinkle can recruit and that's about it

KC Scott wrote:

Danimal wrote: Coaching fail.

HUGE Coaching Fail - We need to find a Mike Anderson in the CFB ranks, someone who can gameplan and get max performance out of the kids, whether they're blue chips or not.

Pinkle can recruit and that's about it

http://www.theoneboard.com/board/viewto ... 01#p648001

c'mon MU fan. make a list of the winning seasons and bowl games you've had in the 20 years before Pinkel and with GP. he uncorks a stinker on a regular basis but be "realistic" here. :?

King Crimson wrote:c'mon MU fan. make a list of the winning seasons and bowl games you've had in the 20 years before Pinkel and with GP. he uncorks a stinker on a regular basis but be "realistic" here. :?

Agreed - he's turned the corner in Mizzou football, but now we need someone who can take it to the next level.

Contrast that with where OU was prior to Snoops / albeit without the tradition 50-70s

KC Scott wrote:

King Crimson wrote:c'mon MU fan. make a list of the winning seasons and bowl games you've had in the 20 years before Pinkel and with GP. he uncorks a stinker on a regular basis but be "realistic" here. :?

Agreed - he's turned the corner in Mizzou football, but now we need someone who can take it to the next level.

Contrast that with where OU was prior to Snoops / albeit without the tradition 50-70s

Yeah because it's not like they didn't win the conference five times in the 80s and a national that decade either... fucking moron.

SunCoastSooner wrote:

KC Scott wrote:

King Crimson wrote:c'mon MU fan. make a list of the winning seasons and bowl games you've had in the 20 years before Pinkel and with GP. he uncorks a stinker on a regular basis but be "realistic" here. :?

Agreed - he's turned the corner in Mizzou football, but now we need someone who can take it to the next level.

Contrast that with where OU was prior to Snoops / albeit without the tradition 50-70s

Yeah because it's not like they didn't win the conference five times in the 80s and a national that decade either... fucking moron.

heck, OU has 5 top 6 finishes in the 80's. in addition to the MNC in 85. You take Miami off the board and OU wins 3 straight MNC's (OU's only losses in 85,86, and 87 are to Miami). i guess that's not enough for MU fan ( :wink: ). all of it bookended by two "meh" Gibbs years and Switzer's 7-4-1 year in which he really almost got fired. Old oil money and cigar crowd up in the Santee Lounge and Bud's former players were ready to let him go.

beat some really good Nebraska teams; a couple times, when they had no business doin' it.

Gibbs
Schnellenberger
Blake

Feel free to EAD Sooner Fags

KC Scott wrote:Gibbs
Schnellenberger
Blake

Feel free to EAD Sooner Fags

Owens
Tatum
Wilkenson
Switzer
Stoops

66-23-5 vs. Misery. 7 National Titles > 0. Oklahoma has won more Big 12 titles in it's first 14 years of competition than Misery has won since the inception of the Big 7.

BTW... Gary Gibs vs. Misery = 5-0 (1989 52-14, '90 55-10, '91 56-16, '92 51-17, '93 42-23, '94 30-13). Schnellenberger = 1-0 vs Misery (13-9).

How does it make you feel to know that Misery has only won three times since your magical date set in 1970. Hell Misery has beaten Oklahoma once since I learned how to walk and talk.

Do you know the last decade that Misery had a winning record against OU? Trick question since it has never happenned... not even Misery's hay days of the 1960s could they manage a winning record against Oklahoma. The last time Misery managed to win consecutive games against Oklahoma my father was still in grammar school; before that it had been a decade prior to WWII. The last time Misery won a conference title outright Cassius Clay was winning a gold medal at the Olympics in Rome, OPEC was founded, The Peace Corps was founded, and my father was in the 3rd grade.

Feel free to off yourself at the nearest shower rod.

KC Scott wrote: Feel free to EAD Sooner Fags

i'll pass, but i trust your experience with it.

This was my "before Bob Stoops OU was in the Wildnerness" proof:

Gibbs
Schnellenberger
Blake

Before you ladies got your "We were great in the 80's too" roll on.

My Mea culpa is I said 80's - Should have said late 80s- early 90's before Stoops brought the program back

Sunny Enistein now thinks I'm running competition smack?
How very Vapid of you.

Missouri has virtually never been competitive with OU - and until we get a coach that can take the program beyond Pinkel - we won't be

KC Scott wrote:This was my "before Bob Stoops OU was in the Wildnerness" proof:

Gibbs
Schnellenberger
Blake

Before you ladies got your "We were great in the 80's too" roll on.

My Mea culpa is I said 80's - Should have said late 80s- early 90's before Stoops brought the program back

Sunny Enistein now thinks I'm running competition smack?
How very Vapid of you.

Missouri has virtually never been competitive with OU - and until we get a coach that can take the program beyond Pinkel - we won't be

Dude, once again, you're a fucking moron... Gibbs had a better winning percentage as a head coach than Gary Pinkel has... 66% > 59% and a better winning percentage in bowl games than Stinkel. Gibbs' teams only finished lower than third in the Big 8 once (1992), if not for loses to Colorado in '90 and '91 they would have been conference champs both seasons. He got canned because he couldn't beat Texas and couldn't get over the hump and finish above Nebraska and/or Colorado in conference; were perennial second or tied for second in conference which is unacceptable in Norman but is apparently "having turned the corner" (your words not mine) and perfectly acceptable in Columbia. Even the Gibb's era of OU football outshines Missouri's standards.

KC Scott wrote:This was my "before Bob Stoops OU was in the Wildnerness" proof:

Gibbs
Schnellenberger
Blake

Before you ladies got your "We were great in the 80's too" roll on.

My Mea culpa is I said 80's - Should have said late 80s- early 90's before Stoops brought the program back

Sunny Enistein now thinks I'm running competition smack?
How very Vapid of you.

Missouri has virtually never been competitive with OU - and until we get a coach that can take the program beyond Pinkel - we won't be

SunCoastSooner wrote:if not for loses to Colorado in '90 and '91 they would have been conference champs both seasons. He got canned because he couldn't beat Texas and couldn't get over the hump and finish above Nebraska and/or Colorado in conference; were perennial second or tied for second in conference which is unacceptable in Norman.

Once again proving you can't comprehend the written word -you just added detail to the point I made

Gibbs was pushed out of Norman for not elevating the program = stoops took them back to the upper echelon

Wanna rant more?

KC Scott wrote:

KC Scott wrote:This was my "before Bob Stoops OU was in the Wildnerness" proof:

Gibbs
Schnellenberger
Blake

Before you ladies got your "We were great in the 80's too" roll on.

My Mea culpa is I said 80's - Should have said late 80s- early 90's before Stoops brought the program back

Sunny Enistein now thinks I'm running competition smack?
How very Vapid of you.

Missouri has virtually never been competitive with OU - and until we get a coach that can take the program beyond Pinkel - we won't be

SunCoastSooner wrote:if not for loses to Colorado in '90 and '91 they would have been conference champs both seasons. He got canned because he couldn't beat Texas and couldn't get over the hump and finish above Nebraska and/or Colorado in conference; were perennial second or tied for second in conference which is unacceptable in Norman.

Once again proving you can't comprehend the written word -you just added detail to the point I made

Gibbs was pushed out of Norman for not elevating the program = stoops took them back to the upper echelon

Wanna rant more?

We were upper echelon for much of the Gibbs era. We were severely limited in scholarships for three of those seasons and not allowed to go to Bowl games for two of them because of probation. How the hell was he supposed to "elevate" a team who had won a national title in the previous five years and played for a chance at in their bowl game two other times. There was no where to go from there but down, especially with probation. One poor season, by Oklahoma standards, did him in. Even the vast majority of his loses were very competitive, only being beaten by more than ten points five times during his tenure, and only one of those loses was a to a team ranked outside the top 10... that one loss was as a lame duck coach where he had already been told he wasn't going to be retained but would be allowed to coach the Copper Bowl. He finished in the top 20 of the country all but two of his seasons. Gibbs also had a lot of big wins during his tenure to include in 1990 #13 Pittsburgh 52-10 and a bitch slapping of #8 ranked Nebraska, in 1991 #12 Virginia 48-14, in 1992 they tied #11 Colorado (who finished the season #4 in the AP poll) in Boulder, in 1993 he bitch slapped #5 Texas A&M (44-14) whose only loses that season were to OU and #2 in the country Notre Dame in the Cotton Bowl. 1994 was his undoing. Revisionist history, mostly propagated by Sooner fans, want to lump him in with Smellsofbourbon and Blake because he led them into those eras after a being dealt a pretty shitty hand.

Gibbs kept Oklahoma together much better than almost any other coach and its program going through a coaching change and major probation in the history of college football. Look what happened to Alabama at the beginning of the century, Miami in the mid to late 90s, SMU, etc. OU's fans were probably much to impatient with him because of his performance against Texas and Nebraska. Texas only had one win against OU during his tenure that was by more than a TD and three of the games were decided by four points or less. Nebraska laid it on us pretty good twice during his tenure but they were beating the piss out of just about everyone not named Colorado who was also a perennial top 10 team during those years.

Gibbs also brought in Cale Gundy at QB and was the first coach in Sooner history to run a balanced offense rather than an option primary offense. Produced 24 all conference players in his short tenure. He also consistently held opponents to under an average of 20 points a game during his tenure.

Gibbs came in at the wrong time to be too successful at Oklahoma; came into a program that was marred by scandal, on probation, after a coaching legend, when two other programs were national powers (Nebraska and Colorado) in a smaller conference. He has consistently been successful as a coach at numerous levels (including both college and the NFL) and capacities. It's a shame that he has such a stigma attached to his name just because he never won a national title and Oklahoma fans were still pining for King Switzer's return.

KC Scott wrote:Missouri has virtually never been competitive with OU - and until we get a coach that can take the program beyond Pinkel - we won't be

Did you ever think that this is the best your program can do?

6 bowl games this decade compared to 5 the previous two decades.

Last outright conference title was 1960. Y'all should be worshiping this guy for getting a outright north title.

If Mizzou was to make a coaching change, they should go for Mel.