Whatever happened to your Health Care debate?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Something...something...National Health Care...something...


...somebody's underwear caught on fire...something...Yemen is the new Soviet Union...something...


yawn

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Sirfindafold]

I see Martard is still on that waiting list to get that wart of his lip.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Shut your dick moisturiser, you turd-tapping cum vat.

[War Wagon]

I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.

Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.

[Mikey]

I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.

Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.

They might have lost more if they had gone the other way.

[Mikey]

Something...something...National Health Care...something...

We finally realized that we're all Jim Rome and friends, and that matters more than anything that might come between us.

[War Wagon]

Wrong, they wouldn't have lost any. At least not over the health care debate. AARP members were satisfied with the status quo, obviously.

[War Wagon]

Nobody gives a fuck about those members, they were a drop in the ocean who only cared about cheap car rentals and early bird specials at Ponderosa.

Obama certainly gave a fuck about them.

A drop in the ocean? Oh, ok Mahmoud.

[Mikey]

Wrong, they wouldn't have lost any. At least not over the health care debate. AARP members were satisfied with the status quo, obviously.

You really think so?

They're so well informed, after all.

"Yeah, baby, keep the damned government out of my Medicare!!"

[War Wagon]

Rack the early bird special at Ponderosa, btw.

[War Wagon]

They're so well informed, after all.

Probably twice as informed as your typical Screwball running around howling at the moon.

[KC Scott]

I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.

Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.

Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?

Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?
Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?

[Mikey]

They're so well informed, after all.

Probably twice as informed as your typical Screwball running around howling at the moon.

That's a different set of people?

How many old people do you know?

[Sirfindafold]

They're so well informed, after all.

Of course they are informed fuckface, they watch all the debates on CSPAN.

[Mikey]

...what do you do if you or your family gets sick?

Better dead than Red, muthafucka.

[Sirfindafold]

what do you do if you get sick?

I would euthanize myself by reading one of your shit posts.

[Dinsdale]

Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?

For sure...

And if the fed would DO WHAT THEY SWORE TO DO, and follow the Constitution, and GET THE LIVING FUCK OUT OF IT, he'd have that option.


The "health-care crisis" was freaking caused by federal intervention in private industry. Not sure how dumb someone has to be to think that federalizing it further is going to "fix" anything.

Repeal the HMO Act of 1973. It will take a few years for the market to adapt, but watch rates plunge across the board. All that heinous law did was reduce competition in the marketplace, and as with most government meddling, artificially manipulated the supply/demand curve, which invariably screws the consumer.

[War Wagon]

Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?

Wifey has insurance thru her company, if need be I can get on her plan.

Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?

About $26 a week, up from $19 last year.

Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?

Perhaps, but I don't trust Pelosi, Reid and company, or anybody in government to write itself a $787 billion dollar check and then manage it any better than they did the "stimulus" bill which wound up only stimulating bankers bonuses.

[smackaholic]

I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.

Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.

Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?

Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?
Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?

define competitive plan. do you mean a gubmint plan where they charge whatever they damn well please, since they don't have to worry about silly things like expenses?

you can argue for a gubmint run plan, but, if your arguement relies on competition, you really are a coolaid drinking dumbfukk.

[PSUFAN]

I saw a story on CNN where Obama was chirping in November about how AARP supported this reform bill and what a huge endorsement that was.

Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.

Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?

Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?
Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?

Not a surprise that IKYABWAI Wagon is also skilled in NIMBY.

[PSUFAN]

Stanley Pickkkle whimpered, "Strip that spic"

:swoon


--Kid Pickleville

[Smackie Chan]

Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.

People die every day. Especially old ones.

[War Wagon]

As per usualm, PUS adds much to any discussion he joins.

NIMBY, how did you manage to pull that moronic turd from your shit-stained drawers?

Perhaps what you'd like to score from this reform bill is a lifetime supply of discounted Depends? Sorry, I'm not paying for it.

[War Wagon]

Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.

People die every day. Especially old ones.

Canceled memberships, not due to dying.

Nice try.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Since that endorsement, AARP has lost 150,000 dues paying members.

People die every day. Especially old ones.

Canceled memberships, not due to dying.

Nice try.

"He's not dead...he's...cancelled..."

[Mikey]

Wags, what's really amazing to me is a bill like this would help someone in your position considerably, yet you don't support any part of it.
If manufacturing contnues to deteriorate and your company closes the doors, what do you do if you or your family gets sick?

Even if that doesn't occur how much are you paying in to be part of your companies health care plan now?
Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?

Let me translate KC Scott's take for you, Wags:

If you lose your job and cannot pay for your own health care, don't you want the government to take money from other people and give it to you so that you can maintain your health?

Even if that doesn't occur, why are you paying for your own health care when we can get the government to force other people to pay at least a portion of your costs? Wouldn't you at least want the government to take money away from other people and give it to you?

After all, this is America. Land of the Freeloader, and Home of the Brazen.

I wouldn't mind some of the money that I pay to the government going into a fund that would provide me with coverage in the unfortunate circumstance that someday I can't afford to pay may healthcare costs. I also wouldn't mind if some of that money went to pay for costs of other people who are now in that circumstance, as long as I was assured that there would be coverage for me if I need it. I wouldn't call that "freeloading"...would you?

Sort of the way "insurance" is supposed to work. Unfortunately our current version of "health insurance" is nothing of the sort.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I wouldn't mind some of the money that I pay to the government going into a fund that would provide me with coverage in the unfortunate circumstance that someday I can't afford to pay may healthcare costs. I also wouldn't mind if some of that money went to pay for costs of other people who are now in that circumstance, as long as I was assured that there would be coverage for me if I need it.

Ahhh...Socialism.

[OCmike]

Wouldn't you at least want to have the option of buying a more competitive plan?

For sure...

And if the fed would DO WHAT THEY SWORE TO DO, and follow the Constitution, and GET THE LIVING FUCK OUT OF IT, he'd have that option.


The "health-care crisis" was freaking caused by federal intervention in private industry. Not sure how dumb someone has to be to think that federalizing it further is going to "fix" anything.

Repeal the HMO Act of 1973. It will take a few years for the market to adapt, but watch rates plunge
across the board. All that heinous law did was reduce competition in the
marketplace, and as with most government meddling, artificially manipulated the
upply/demand curve, which invariably screws the consumer.

Fucking Rack!

Best part about the DC debacle is Barry's fan club applauding their own ass-raping. Barry is currently pressuring Pelosi to leave the anti-trust exception out of the bill, when including it is the only real "change" that's necessary.

[War Wagon]

I wouldn't mind some of the money that I pay to the government going into a fund that would provide me with coverage in the unfortunate circumstance that someday I can't afford to pay may healthcare costs. I also wouldn't mind if some of that money went to pay for costs of other people who are now in that circumstance, as long as I was assured that there would be coverage for me if I need it.

Isn't that sorta' what Medicare and Medicaid already do?

True, you aren't eligible for it until you're old enough (or older) to be an AARP member, but that safety net will (or should) be there once you're no longer a useful member of society and can't pay your own insurance or medical bills anymore.

You asked me before if I knew any "old" people. Yes I do, my mother who just turned 89 and lives in hospice care. She fell out of bed last year and broke her hip (again) and had to go to the hospital for a awhile. They sent me all her bills/statements and I shudder to think how her 4 kids could've afforded those bills w/o Medicare and Medicaid.

[Dinsdale]

I shudder to think how her 4 kids could've afforded those bills w/o Medicare and Medicaid.

Your reasoning skills are somewhere between "laughably inept" and "BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!"


Gee, I dunno how they'd afford it dipshit... maybe by reducing the federal budget by 50 fucking percent without Medicrap, you might have more money in your paycheck?


Fucking nanny state liberals are a funny lot, believing money grows on trees and shit.

[Mikey]

I wouldn't mind some of the money that I pay to the government going into a fund that would provide me with coverage in the unfortunate circumstance that someday I can't afford to pay may healthcare costs. I also wouldn't mind if some of that money went to pay for costs of other people who are now in that circumstance, as long as I was assured that there would be coverage for me if I need it.

Isn't that sorta' what Medicare and Medicaid already do?

True, you aren't eligible for it until you're old enough (or older) to be an AARP member, but that safety net will (or should) be there once you're no longer a useful member of society and can't pay your own insurance or medical bills anymore.

You asked me before if I knew any "old" people. Yes I do, my mother who just turned 89 and lives in hospice care. She fell out of bed last year and broke her hip (again) and had to go to the hospital for a awhile. They sent me all her bills/statements and I shudder to think how her 4 kids could've afforded those bills w/o Medicare and Medicaid.

Does she run around and howl at the moon?

[War Wagon]

Gee, I dunno how they'd afford it dipshit... maybe by reducing the federal budget by 50 fucking percent without Medicrap, you might have more money in your paycheck?

Yeah, that $13.52 a week I pay in Medicare taxes would certainly have put a dent in a $30,000 hospital bill... if I had put it in a savings account for the last 40 years.

Flipping 'tard.

[Tom In VA]

Marty, there is no way the muzzie who got permission from the Imam to rub one out as long as he lubed up with explosive KY and took some infidels out afterwards is a "wag the dog".

They'd be doing this shit in secret regardless. Just like the flock of cowards "retiring", they're cowards. They know it is bullshit, they know it is wrong, there just simply isn't anything anyone can do about it. The Republicans are impotent and it only took eight years for the Dems to prove themselves and show their true colors. They really don't give a flying fuck about "the will of the people".

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Marty, there is no way the muzzie who got permission from the Imam to rub one out as long as he lubed up with explosive KY and took some infidels out afterwards is a "wag the dog".

Wasn't the Senate supposed to have some sort of "power debate" and then push legislation through during the holidays?

...and then some dude's underpants burst into flames...


The End.

[War Wagon]

maybe by reducing the federal budget by 50 fucking percent without Medicrap....

50% huh?

Is there anything you can spew about that isn't complete and utter bullshit? I mean it's one thing to just be an ignorant douchebag wallowing in his own ignorance, quite another when they go out of their way to prove how ignorant they are... in the most overbearing way possible.

[Tom In VA]

Marty, there is no way the muzzie who got permission from the Imam to rub one out as long as he lubed up with explosive KY and took some infidels out afterwards is a "wag the dog".

Wasn't the Senate supposed to have some sort of "power debate" and then push legislation through during the holidays?

...and then some dude's underpants burst into flames...


The End.

Pure coincidence.

[Tom In VA]

The Republicans are impotent .

They aren't impotent. They are in on the scam. We have a one party system with a comic opera illusion of choice.

Closer to the truth, I stand corrected.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

613 billion on defense spending


wow

[poptart]

Just a question, Wags. If you haven't paid in $30,000, why do you think you should get out $30,000? If everyone thinks and acts like that, who pays the bill?

Medical malpractice roache .. s... err .. lawyers?



:)

[Dinsdale]

Yeah, that $13.52 a week I pay in Medicare taxes would certainly have put a dent in a $30,000 hospital bill... if I had put it in a savings account for the last 40 years.

Flipping 'tard.

Your 13.52, and that which your employer puts in covers less than 25% of Medicare...

flippin' tard.

The overwhelming majority of it comes from other federal revenues...

flippin tard.

Flippin tard still thinks money magically comes from thin air.