T1B

I'm sitting here watching some dumbfukk dem congressman on C-Span take calls about this abortion of a healthcare bill.

He keeps going on about how fukked up it is that an insurance company can have the unmitigated gal to tell someone, sorry we can't insure you because we are 100% guaranteed to lose money on the deal and believe it or not, we are in a business to make money.

If the gubmint wants to take care of pre-existing conditions, then fukking do it. This means create a fund that covers them. Do not tell an insurance company that it should just ignore actuarial tables and do it because it's the right thing to do.

How the fukk is this not painfully obvious to anyone? Mandating coverage and offering a gubmint run option leads to one place, the demise of private insurance.

You want an NHS? Fine. Then propose it. Don't play bullshit games that lead there. BO is on fukking video tape stating that single payer is the goal, but that we need to be suckered into it.

Fukk him.

Nice melt.

Personally I'd LOVE a Canadian style system. But if this "abortion" is what can move us towards that goal, then so be it.

Maybe you wouldn't mind going to a hospital for say a knee operation and then after spending the night sent home because the staff was going on vacation. I still don't see how all of this is anywhere near being constitutional. Then again Barry and the Stalinists don't give a rat's behind about that.

88 wrote:The Supreme Court is going to have to find the sack to reign Congress to within the boundaries of the Constitution, or else the entire government structure will collapse. This entire process has been a farce from day one.

Back away from the bong. The days of thinking of the Supreme Court as a non partisan institution ended with Bush v Gore. Were your post honestly worded, it would read something like, "Gee I sure hope the 5 Republicans on the Supreme Court go along with the latest GOP meme about this being unconstitutional."

smackaholic wrote:I'm sitting here watching some dumbfukk dem congressman on C-Span take calls about this abortion of a healthcare bill.

He keeps going on about how fukked up it is that an insurance company can have the unmitigated gal to tell someone, sorry we can't insure you because we are 100% guaranteed to lose money on the deal and believe it or not, we are in a business to make money.

If the gubmint wants to take care of pre-existing conditions, then fukking do it. This means create a fund that covers them. Do not tell an insurance company that it should just ignore actuarial tables and do it because it's the right thing to do.

How the fukk is this not painfully obvious to anyone? Mandating coverage and offering a gubmint run option leads to one place, the demise of private insurance.

You want an NHS? Fine. Then propose it. Don't play bullshit games that lead there. BO is on fukking video tape stating that single payer is the goal, but that we need to be suckered into it.

Fukk him.

So you'd be in favor of the "public option"?

I am in favor of going back to what existed before the hmo mess came along. This means you pay for your own fukking routine healthcare and you purchase a fairly high deductible policy for catastrophic shit.

I would also ban companies buying policies for their workers. Part of the reason we have shitty service from health insurers is they have no incentive to provide good service. If every single policy was chosen by the individual, insurers would be forced to at least pretend to give a fukk or they would lose bidness. Employer's rolls should be limited to providing a stipend which the employ would steer to the insurance co. of his chosing.

As for the pre-existing condition which the commies scream about, I would even be willing to support a gubmint roll in funding this. Not saying it's the best way to handle it, but, it does take away their only argument which has a shred a credibility.

BSmack wrote:

88 wrote:The Supreme Court is going to have to find the sack to reign Congress to within the boundaries of the Constitution, or else the entire government structure will collapse. This entire process has been a farce from day one.

Back away from the bong. The days of thinking of the Supreme Court as a non partisan institution ended with Bush v Gore. Were your post honestly worded, it would read something like, "Gee I sure hope the 5 Republicans on the Supreme Court go along with the latest GOP meme about this being unconstitutional."

WTF does that have to do with the Constitution that you so routinely confuse for toilet paper?

Why don't you show me the part where it says the fed can establish socialist health care?

When you fail on that front, I can easily show you the part where the fed is forbidden to do so.

smackaholic wrote:I am in favor of going back to what existed before the hmo mess came along. This means you pay for your own fukking routine healthcare and you purchase a fairly high deductible policy for catastrophic shit.

I would also ban companies buying policies for their workers. Part of the reason we have shitty service from health insurers is they have no incentive to provide good service. If every single policy was chosen by the individual, insurers would be forced to at least pretend to give a fukk or they would lose bidness.

Huh?

You mean that the fed shattered yet more of the Rule of Law, and eliminated 90% of the competition in the free market...


and prices went up?


Man, what a :HUGESHOCKER:... who ever woulda thunk it?

BSmack wrote:The days of thinking of the Supreme Court as a non partisan institution ended with Bush v Gore.

You might want to hitch up your diapers there, sport. If you thought the SC has been non-partisan up until that point, you are one dumb motherfucker.

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:The days of thinking of the Supreme Court as a non partisan institution ended with Bush v Gore.

You might want to hitch up your diapers there, sport. If you thought the SC has been non-partisan up until that point, you are one dumb motherfucker.

Amen.

This statement makes jsc's tiger woods mike tyson comparison look smart. And I was realatively sure there was no way to do that.

As long as there's a mountain top in Afghanistan that hasn't had a cruise missile slam into it, you'll keep turning your pockets inside out for the Pentagon. And you'll like it.

Of course, funding that big government scheme isn't socialist at all. No....no way...

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:The days of thinking of the Supreme Court as a non partisan institution ended with Bush v Gore.

You might want to hitch up your diapers there, sport. If you thought the SC has been non-partisan up until that point, you are one dumb motherfucker.

And if you thought that is what I thought then you are a knuckle dragging retard of the first order. My point was that after Bush v Gore, even the faintest pretense of a non-partisan SCOTUS was history.

Looks like stupak and friends are capitulating. It's over.

Damn, I kinda wish I had jumped on the metro and checked out the scene down there.





velocet

V, where you at again? I'm at 3rd and G SW, I could probably walk over there, but I'm too fucking lazy right now and I'm watching the tournament.

I thought the v-dog was in Charm City.

Tom, how long do you think it would take to get from Crystal City to Bristow during rush hour? I bet the gridlock is awful. Pearl Jam is playing amphitheater out there and I'm thinking about going. If you leave at 5, can you get there by 7?

How are you going to get there ?

The VRE passes right through Crystal City and can take you into the Manassas area better than the metro, Broad Run Airport Station is probably the closest to Nissan (assuming that's where you're talking about).

What are you going to do then ? Cab ?


Ignore that, I have no clue why I thought you were taking the metro, I still had your question to velo on the mind.



From Crystal City to the pavillion, you could make it in 1.5-2 hrs. To the general area. That doesn't count traffic into the place though.

I was probably going to rent a car. Yes, I'm talking about Nissan Pavillion. Do you think it's possible to get there without renting a car?

Cab. Cab there, you could do what I suggested with the VRE. Cab back would have to take you straight to the house or maybe Vienna Metro.

Last time I took a cab to Vienna (1996) from out here it ran somewhere around $35-40, I tend to try and tip well so that might be part of it.

Sounds like I'd be renting a car. Thanks for the advice.

Screw_Michigan wrote:Sounds like I'd be renting a car. Thanks for the advice.

Yeah your options and liberty would be severely limited if you relied upon anything other than a rental car.




Kind of like how options and liberty will be crippled if this bill passes .......

you'll be more healthful though. good strong teeth and nice shiny coats.

I'm in montgomery county now. I could get to either the shady grove or glenmont stations in equal times, yet one leg of the red line ain't the same as the other fer real.

I've never been to Nissan. Matter of fact Virginia exists to me in theory only. (nothing at all against VA I just never have any reason to ever cross the potomac forever.)



velocet

velocet wrote:I just never have any reason to ever cross the potomac forever

Rack. Wish I could say the same thing. Although going from SW to south Arlington is a lot better than SW to Bethesda.

velocet wrote:I'm in montgomery county now.

I'm sorry life brought you to that fate.

Could be worse. He could be in Fairfax.

Velo seems to be more bent towards libertarian/conservative principles. Montgomery County has no principles at all.

The District thinks you both suck.

l-r: Screw_Michigan, Velo and Tom In VA.

Prince William County resident is trashing the District?

I'm not a county resident.

I'm just being flippant about going to VA merely to point out the PAIN IN THE ASS it is to get around in this area. Serious demotivator, and I see you two don't disagree in the least!

I wanna check out Luray Caverns someday. But I remember KC Scott inquiring about Parking Lot errrrrrr 66 once on this board and I had no good answer for him... that whole thing seems to defy all commonly held notions about "traffic."


And I ask y'all: would you lemme in on what you're talking about when you refer to Montgomery and Fairfax, respectively?
They have their flaws, sure, but I don't know what you mean specifically.




velocet

I was referring to Montgomery Country being notoriously a haven for rich white folks bearing the burden of "white guilt" and voting Democrat - while at the same time working for lobbyist firms doing their best to keep those same Democrats out of their pockets (unless of course they're lining them with cash). You being, a bit right leaning, I pitied you having to live there.


Screw_Michigan was referring to Fairfax because he's only been down Route 1 heading south about as far as Ft. Belvoir.
He's oblivious as to how big Fairfax is and hasn't seen Western FFX County.

Gotcha. My inquiry wasn't a challenge, btw, because there are so many things to choose from I just wanted clarification.

Fairfax County is for rich, white people who want all the amenities of Montgomery County but don't wanna pay taxes for those county services. Oh yeah, and people who have never shot a firearm in their life, but want those rights. And people who hate balck people. At least Mont Co is mostly metro accessible. Fairfax just sucks big dick.

And Tom, I've been to Reston. Once. That's as far west in northern Fairfax as I've been. IAD, too.

Just face it, Tom. If you like urban living, the DC-Baltimore corridor is where it is at. I would rather live near Baltimore and commute to DC than live out in Fairfax and do the same shit.

Screw_Michigan wrote:Fairfax County is for rich, white people who want all the amenities of Montgomery County but don't wanna pay taxes for those county services.

False

Screw_Michigan wrote: Oh yeah, and people who have never shot a firearm in their life, but want those rights.

False

Screw_Michigan wrote: And people who hate balck people.

Laughable and as false as it gets

At least Mont Co is mostly metro accessible. Fairfax just sucks big dick.

True

Screw_Michigan wrote: And Tom, I've been to Reston. Once. That's as far west in northern Fairfax as I've been.

Your only experience is a single trip in Reston ? The complete opposite of every single conclusion you've drawn about Fairfax County (except for Metro access).

Screw_Michigan wrote: Just face it, Tom. If you like urban living, the DC-Baltimore corridor is where it is at. I would rather live near Baltimore and commute to DC than live out in Fairfax and do the same shit.

Good. There are enough transpants in this area as it is.

The only thing worth a damn to have come from Fairfax is the Gin Blossoms bootleg I have from the Fairfax County Fairgrounds in 02.

Dinsdale wrote:

BSmack wrote:

88 wrote:The Supreme Court is going to have to find the sack to reign Congress to within the boundaries of the Constitution, or else the entire government structure will collapse. This entire process has been a farce from day one.

Back away from the bong. The days of thinking of the Supreme Court as a non partisan institution ended with Bush v Gore. Were your post honestly worded, it would read something like, "Gee I sure hope the 5 Republicans on the Supreme Court go along with the latest GOP meme about this being unconstitutional."

WTF does that have to do with the Constitution that you so routinely confuse for toilet paper?

Why don't you show me the part where it says the fed can establish socialist health care?

When you fail on that front, I can easily show you the part where the fed is forbidden to do so.

What happens when they amend that scroll some confuse for asswipe? Don't be surprised when it goes down.

H4ever wrote: What happens when they amend that scroll some confuse for asswipe? Don't be surprised when it goes down.

the left will not ammend it? why should they. blatantly ignoring it works well enough for them. it would be nice to see the right push for an amendment. a really good start would be to amend the section on interstate commerce. do away with it as it is the lefties favorite go to card to explain every fukking theing they do. we just don't need it. if new york wants to charge a duty on shit from new jersey, who gives a fukk.

smackaholic wrote:the left will not ammend it? why should they. blatantly ignoring it works well enough for them. it would be nice to see the right push for an amendment. a really good start would be to amend the section on interstate commerce. do away with it as it is the lefties favorite go to card to explain every fukking theing they do. we just don't need it. if new york wants to charge a duty on shit from new jersey, who gives a fukk.

Who gives a fuck? You are familiar with the reasons we scrapped the Articles of Confederation in the first place. Are you?

:doh: