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Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:23 am
by TheJON
Well, I wanna fight every member on the Royals team right now so I figured I would do something constructive and talk football.........

So who's going to be a contender next year? Alabama loses a lot of key players but they'll be considered one of the favorites. Florida should still be pretty good even without what's-his-face.

So what's your teams outlook for 2010? Optimistic? Pessimistic? Drinking the Kool-Aid?

My team happens to be considered one of the contenders and I'm really not sure what to think of that. I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic even though I just sent my season ticket order in for what will be the most anticipated Iowa football season of my lifetime. Not only because of the high ranking and expectations, but also because of the best home schedule I can ever remember. Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa State........all at home. Sick.

But is Iowa truly a national title contender? I have my doubts. Maybe it's the fact that we're very rarely actually a contender so I am not used to this. But realistically, predicting a team that lost 4 starters (1 will be a Top 10 NFL pick, and a couple others will be drafted) on the offensive line to have a shot at a national title is a little premature.

The good thing is Ferentz and his staff always do a great job with the O-line. And on top of that we've got all the tough games at home except for Arizona.

I will say this, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that if Iowa can find a way to produce just an average offensive line this is one of the Top 2-3 teams in the country. No team in the country is deeper with skill position talent and experience than Iowa. 3 RB's that could start almost anywhere. 2 big play WR's. A quality, experienced TE. An experienced QB that is poised for a breakout season. And then the defense should be outstanding as always. Clayborn is probably the best defensive player in the country. The D-line is without a doubt the best in the nation. Jeremiha Hunter is one of the better LB's in the conference. Our safeties are experienced and talented. The corners are quality as well. And the overall special teams unit will, again, be amongst the best in the nation.

So this team definitely has the POTENTIAL. Talent + experience eveywhere except the O-line. So basically I'm not really sure how to predict this team. I have no doubt they'll win a minimum of 9-10 games. They could do that in their sleep. But in order to win 11-12 games, the O-line is going to have to gel. Even with the skill talent, it won't matter if they don't have anyone blocking for them. I will pick Iowa to go 10-2, but if after the Arizona game we are seeing an O-line that shows some ability............watch the fuck out!

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:16 am
by H4ever
Arizona's a tough team? Pussies.

Sincerely,

'09 Nebraska


Don't get ur panties all wet just yet, Jon. I call 5 losses minimum for Iowa. Iowa never plays good two years in a row. And if the do win 11 or 12 games this year or even get a sniff at the nat'l title....Ferentz bolts sometime in Jan 2011. Which is worse? 5 losses or losing the only thing that inspired you to pull down your yellowed and tattered Chuck Long poster?

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:40 am
by M Club
H4ever wrote:Iowa never plays good two years in a row.
thanks, ahole. you just asked jon to go all three straight top ten finishes seven years ago on our azzez.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:57 pm
by Goober McTuber
tOSU, Wisconsin and PSU will all whack Iowa at home. They lose to at least one slappy on the road. 8-4 if they're lucky.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:45 pm
by Goober McTuber
Iowa lost 4 starters on their offensive line. Wisconsin lost 4 starters. Period.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:47 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Goober McTuber wrote:Wisconsin lost 4 starters. Period.
Good for another fourth-place Wisky finish.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:56 pm
by Goober McTuber
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Wisconsin lost 4 starters. Period.
Good for another fourth-place Wisky finish.
Wanna bet?

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:14 pm
by TheJON
Iowa never plays good two years in a row.
You lost all credibility here. Nice take, clueless.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:16 pm
by TheJON
Goober McTuber wrote:tOSU, Wisconsin and PSU will all whack Iowa at home. They lose to at least one slappy on the road. 8-4 if they're lucky.
Making your predictions on Iowa look stupid got old a couple of years ago. So I'll just say this.............. Iowa is going to lose to BOTH Wisconsin and State Penn at home- 2 teams we have owned for a long time? Umm......okay, dude. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:00 am
by PSUFAN
Not foreseeing a PSU win at Iowa this year...but shit, I've certainly seen stranger things.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:15 am
by Goober McTuber
Goober McTuber wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:Wisconsin lost 4 starters. Period.
Good for another fourth-place Wisky finish.
Wanna bet?
What's the matter? Strange man's sphincter got your tongue?

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:27 am
by WolverineSteve
"Time to talk football" should never be an Iowa-centric thread...sayin.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:28 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Goober McTuber wrote:What's the matter? Strange man's sphincter got your tongue?
Unlike you, I don't spend all my free time carousing the board. Develop leprosy, you fucking cum-drunk spunk tard.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:34 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
WolverineSteve wrote:"Time to talk football" should never be an Iowa-centric thread...sayin.
Why not? Iowa will be vying for another BCS bowl while your shit squad will be giddy just to sniff a PizzaPizza invite.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:37 pm
by M Club
remember this time last year, when you actually got to talk about state? now you're back to michigan being the center of your cfb world.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:40 pm
by WolverineSteve
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
WolverineSteve wrote:"Time to talk football" should never be an Iowa-centric thread...sayin.
Why not? Iowa will be vying for another BCS bowl while your shit squad will be giddy just to sniff a PizzaPizza invite.
You must jerk the rod to set the hook, but I'll bite.

Even with UM's two shit seasons they're more imporortant to CFB than Iowa ever will be. They will always get more ink and more airtime on sports radio and tv. But you knew that, you're just an obsessed little cock monger who slaps his willy to anything anti-Michigan. The inferiority complex is fitting though.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:43 pm
by TheJON
Steve is right, Michigan will always get more national pub than Iowa.

But you see, Steve, that's cool with me. I tell you what...........you can enjoy the national publicity your school gets and I'll enjoy the victories my team gets. Aight?

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:46 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
M Club wrote:remember this time last year, when you actually got to talk about state? now you're back to michigan being the center of your cfb world.
So a few posts over the last couple months = center of my cfb world. Gotcha. What is there to discuss? We haven't even cracked May, I'm not attending practices, and the Spring game hasn't even been played.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:49 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
WolverineSteve wrote:They will always get more ink and more airtime on sports radio and tv.
Why should I give a fuck? Iowa is still more relevant right now.
But you knew that, you're just an obsessed little cock monger who slaps his willy to anything anti-Michigan. The inferiority complex is fitting though.
Says the dude who starts a Boubacar Cissoko thread for the sole purpose of cheap-shotting MSU. Hoooookay.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:51 pm
by WolverineSteve
TheJON wrote:Steve is right, Michigan will always get more national pub than Iowa.

But you see, Steve, that's cool with me. I tell you what...........you can enjoy the national publicity your school gets and I'll enjoy the victories my team gets. Aight?
I thought you'd be gone now with the Royals heating up. Leading the league in hitting and a thorn in the ass of my Tigers... but, yeah Iowa should win more games than Michigan this year. Probably the first time I've ever admitted that out loud before a season. I like the direction of the team right now. The peices are coming together and (if RR can keep his job long enough, we all know that's a big "if") by the time Devin Gardner is running the show UM will be back atop the Big16 and competing for bcs coin.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:54 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
So you admit your coach is on the verge of getting the boot, but you like the "direction" your program is headed on. Christ, talk about denial. And Gardner shouldn't do anything for you until you actually field a defense.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:07 pm
by M Club
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: Says the dude who starts a Boubacar Cissoko thread for the sole purpose of cheap-shotting MSU. Hoooookay.
says the dude whose t1b name is a cheap shot at michigan. at least when people see me or steve they know whom we actually support from the word go.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:10 pm
by M Club
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:So you admit your coach is on the verge of getting the boot, but you like the "direction" your program is headed on. Christ, talk about denial. And Gardner shouldn't do anything for you until you actually field a defense.
there's nothing contradictory there. dickrod's on the precipice, obvs. some people are waiting for him to fall off, while others (steve) think he finally has the personnel he needs to turn things around.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:17 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Cheap shots and disdain. I've got no issues with those things. I don't participate with the guise that I'm above it all. Steve? Nah, he remains too classy for that stuff...while simultaneously hurling unprovoked insults. Something about cake and eating it too.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:37 pm
by Goober McTuber
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:What's the matter? Strange man's sphincter got your tongue?
Unlike you, I don't spend all my free time carousing the board. Develop leprosy, you fucking cum-drunk spunk tard.
So once again you’ve run your mouth, and have no intention whatsoever of backing it up. Noted.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:40 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
M Club wrote:there's nothing contradictory there. dickrod's on the precipice, obvs. some people are waiting for him to fall off, while others (steve) think he finally has the personnel he needs to turn things around.
I didn't call it a contradiction, I called it a state of denial. He admits to a looming coaching staff overhaul, but everything is roses because an unproven poor man's Terrell Pryor is going to come in and save the day, despite the lack of anything resembling a defense and depletions everywhere else. Uh, right. I'll just take all that at face value.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:55 pm
by Goober McTuber
TheJON wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:tOSU, Wisconsin and PSU will all whack Iowa at home. They lose to at least one slappy on the road. 8-4 if they're lucky.
Making your predictions on Iowa look stupid got old a couple of years ago. So I'll just say this.............. Iowa is going to lose to BOTH Wisconsin and State Penn at home- 2 teams we have owned for a long time? Umm......okay, dude. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Of course it does. We're due. Owned? Last 15 years you're 8-7 against Wisconsin. Prior to that, you were dead even. Owned? Nice try, corky.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:34 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Goober McTuber wrote:
So once again you’ve run your mouth, and have no intention whatsoever of backing it up. Noted.
Dear Shrubber, I'm not going to make internet bets for you to welch on. My words speak for themselves. And if I'm wrong, you can just jump up and down and scream "JIZZ-MOPPER!" on repeat as you usually do. Besides, I'd hate to take food off your table.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:48 pm
by Goober McTuber
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
So once again you’ve run your mouth, and have no intention whatsoever of backing it up. Noted.
Dear Shrubber, I'm not going to make internet bets for you to welch on. My words speak for themselves. And if I'm wrong, you can just jump up and down and scream "JIZZ-MOPPER!" on repeat as you usually do. Besides, I'd hate to take food off your table.
Trust me, I can afford it, you fucking pussy. I last welched on a bet...um...oh yeah, late last never. But go ahead and throw up that feeble excuse, because the only balls you have are attached to the pre-op tranny you're shacking up with.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:08 pm
by TheJON
Of course it does. We're due. Owned? Last 15 years you're 8-7 against Wisconsin. Prior to that, you were dead even. Owned? Nice try, corky.
21-7 in the last 28. Won the last 2 by double digits. In my lifetime............Wisconsin is Iowa's easiest win.

The day Wisconsin comes into Kinnick and beats a good Iowa team will be the first. You only beat us when we suck. You know that.

Iowa 27
Fat Cheerleader U 13

Now shut up and go away.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:48 am
by WolverineSteve
Speaking for myself....I like the direction of the program (as I said). By that I mean some personel is in the third year of the program and depth is being built at last. The offense came around big last year averaging 30+ per game. The defense (Fuck Schafer) needs to make a huge leap in year two under Robinson. If it all falls well RR easily retains his job. My reference was meant to point out how all the off field shit has the UM Mob out for blood. If he follows the rules and wins at least 7 games I think he should be allowed to continue. If he's bowless and/or more off the field shit piles up....he's gone. I think it would set the program back again to go through a regime change so I'm rooting against RR's pink slip.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:06 am
by Screw_Michigan
WolverineSteve wrote:The defense (Fuck Schafer)
Nice scapegoat, pussy. Schafer wasn't responsible for last year's abortion. Just face facts: Your head coach is a giant piece of shit who is running your program into the ground. Time to pick another side, buddy. You're losing.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:14 am
by WolverineSteve
Screw_Michigan wrote:
WolverineSteve wrote:The defense (Fuck Schafer)
Nice scapegoat, pussy. Schafer wasn't responsible for last year's abortion. Just face facts: Your head coach is a giant piece of shit who is running your program into the ground. Time to pick another side, buddy. You're losing.
What exactly am I losing whistledick? We've been through this so I'll readers digest the story for you....Schafer (fuck him!) had a ton more talent than last years team...guys who now play on sundays out front should have told you.

Learn the game.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:10 am
by M Club
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Cheap shots and disdain. I've got no issues with those things. I don't participate with the guise that I'm above it all. Steve? Nah, he remains too classy for that stuff...while simultaneously hurling unprovoked insults. Something about cake and eating it too.
you sound a bit too sensitive considering this thread echoes every umich/msu discussion i've had since i was 4.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:18 am
by M Club
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
M Club wrote:there's nothing contradictory there. dickrod's on the precipice, obvs. some people are waiting for him to fall off, while others (steve) think he finally has the personnel he needs to turn things around.
I didn't call it a contradiction, I called it a state of denial. He admits to a looming coaching staff overhaul, but everything is roses because an unproven poor man's Terrell Pryor is going to come in and save the day, despite the lack of anything resembling a defense and depletions everywhere else. Uh, right. I'll just take all that at face value.
there's no admission to a looming staff overhaul. pretty basic capitalist endeavor here: win or lose your job. provided david brandon doesn't already have a plan in place to replace dickrod, i'm also pretty confident he'll win enough to stick around.

depletions everywhere else? since you already mentioned the scrub defense, i'm sure you're talking about the offense, which means you don't really know what you're talking about. unless you meant zoltan, of course.

i didn't realize two inches shorter and a split second off in the 40 made you a poor man's version of terrell pryor. i'll trade those metrics in for the fact his passing abilities graded out very high at the qb camps he attended last year and that he doesn't come off as a complete moron when responding to basic interview questions.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:11 pm
by Goober McTuber
TheJON wrote:
Of course it does. We're due. Owned? Last 15 years you're 8-7 against Wisconsin. Prior to that, you were dead even. Owned? Nice try, corky.
21-7 in the last 28. Won the last 2 by double digits. In my lifetime............Wisconsin is Iowa's easiest win.

The day Wisconsin comes into Kinnick and beats a good Iowa team will be the first. You only beat us when we suck.
Well, then you must suck about 50% of the time. You only got back to .500 against Wisconsin because of the Don Morton era. All-time, it’s 42-41-2.

BTW, what’s the deal on this Beluga kid the Packers drafted? How come he dropped so far in the first round? Report on him is that he’s slow, has short arms and small hands. And that he’ll probably never make it at left tackle and might even wind up at guard. Another of Ted Thompson’s genius picks.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:15 pm
by Killian
Goober McTuber wrote:BTW, what’s the deal on this Beluga kid the Packers drafted? How come he dropped so far in the first round? Report on him is that he’s slow, has short arms and small hands. And that he’ll probably never make it at left tackle and might even wind up at guard. Another of Ted Thompson’s genius picks.
See: Gallery, Robert.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:59 pm
by WolverineSteve
Killian wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:BTW, what’s the deal on this Beluga kid the Packers drafted? How come he dropped so far in the first round? Report on him is that he’s slow, has short arms and small hands. And that he’ll probably never make it at left tackle and might even wind up at guard. Another of Ted Thompson’s genius picks.
See: Gallery, Robert.

RACK

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:29 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
M Club wrote:you sound a bit too sensitive considering this thread echoes every umich/msu discussion i've had since i was 4.
Sensitive? You're the guy rushing to a post that wasn't even addressed to you. Anyway, this is what we do in here. If we meet for a beer and I storm outta the bar cuz of a ski mask reference, then you can accuse me of sensitivity.
there's no admission to a looming staff overhaul.
Ugh...ok. He thinks the chances of DickRod getting canned is pretty damn likely. Happy now?
pretty basic capitalist endeavor here: win or lose your job.
Exactly, and since DickRod is losing at a pretty high clip which will result in another regime change, it's pretty tough for me to buy into this optimistic outlook. Unless one's sole reason for optimism is based on the fact RR will be gone, but even then, one can't really gage the direction of their program until a new coach is hired.
depletions everywhere else? since you already mentioned the scrub defense, i'm sure you're talking about the offense, which means you don't really know what you're talking about. unless you meant zoltan, of course.
I guess the offense is serviceable enough for UMICH not to lose by 30 ppg. They also looked pretty sweet against one of the worst MSU defenses ever assembled in my lifetime.
i didn't realize two inches shorter and a split second off in the 40 made you a poor man's version of terrell pryor. i'll trade those metrics in for the fact his passing abilities graded out very high at the qb camps he attended last year and that he doesn't come off as a complete moron when responding to basic interview questions.
That's fine. I still don't see how Gardner changes the entire direction of the program, especially when we don't even know what he can do yet. Tater Tot looked pretty solid last year at times. Didn't really matter though when the opposition got the ball back and scored in about 7 seconds.

Re: Time to talk football.........

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:05 pm
by M Club
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: Sensitive? You're the guy rushing to a post that wasn't even addressed to you. Anyway, this is what we do in here. If we meet for a beer and I storm outta the bar cuz of a ski mask reference, then you can accuse me of sensitivity.
ja, it's what we do in here. so why are you boo hoo'ing because i brought up your insecurities re: umich/msu? oh, wah, steve, cheapshot, no fair.

Ugh...ok. He thinks the chances of DickRod getting canned is pretty damn likely. Happy now?
no, you're still letting your insecurities translate things for you. let's see:
steve wrote:I like the direction of the team right now. The peices are coming together and (if RR can keep his job long enough, we all know that's a big "if") by the time Devin Gardner is running the show UM will be back atop the Big16 and competing for bcs coin.
optimism, optimism, and a caveat. you're still wrong.

Exactly, and since DickRod is losing at a pretty high clip which will result in another regime change, it's pretty tough for me to buy into this optimistic outlook. Unless one's sole reason for optimism is based on the fact RR will be gone, but even then, one can't really gage the direction of their program until a new coach is hired.
probably because you don't actually follow the program.


I guess the offense is serviceable enough for UMICH not to lose by 30 ppg. They also looked pretty sweet against one of the worst MSU defenses ever assembled in my lifetime.
every msu defense is nearly the worst assembled in your lifetime. to flip the script, michigan's run the worst two teams of my lifetime out the last two years and state's barely scraped by. so once again, your success is a byproduct of michigan's struggles and not anything your program can string together by itself.
That's fine. I still don't see how Gardner changes the entire direction of the program, especially when we don't even know what he can do yet. Tater Tot looked pretty solid last year at times. Didn't really matter though when the opposition got the ball back and scored in about 7 seconds.
true. i obviously don't know how gardner will pan out, just that his recruiting profile isn't any worse than pryor's save those two inches. the idea is that the offense will be a lot more potent with someone running the offense who can actually make the zone read + see over any lineman over 5'7" (tater's big issues last year, plus the running around once his first receiver was locked up).