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Jsc810 wrote: and imagine him in a suit, and Joseph Ratzinger becomes just a Bavarian bureaucrat who has failed in the only task he was ever set—that of damage control. ...

Mikey wrote:
Pikkkle, your thoughts?

Stanley Pickkkle wrote:
Can anybody guess what happens in the next picture?

Stanley Pickkkle wrote:


Can anybody guess what happens in the next picture?

Mikey wrote:Vatican City may officially be a "state" but it lacks many of the attributes that often would be considered necessary to define a state.

Basically it became a "state" because Uncle Benito said it was OK.

The Pope is the ruler of both the Vatican City State and the Holy See. The Holy See, as the supreme body of government of the Catholic Church, is a sovereign juridical entity under international law.

bring the Pope to justice

Jsc810 wrote:

mvscal wrote:I guess the dumbfucks who wrote that article and the one who posted it don't seem to realize that the Pope has functional immunity as head of state and Popes only leave office feet first.

Oh, we don't go after heads of state?

Sincerely,
Manuel Noriega



Your google-fu fails you, my son.

Jsc810 wrote:Oh, we don't go after heads of state?

Sincerely,
Manuel Noriega



Your google-fu fails you, my son.

mvscal wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:Oh, we don't go after heads of state?

Sincerely,
Manuel Noriega



Your google-fu fails you, my son.

He wasn't a legitimate head of state, fuckwit. He seized power from the legitimately elected leader (Endara).

Mikey wrote:And who elected the Pope?

Martyred wrote:

Mikey wrote:And who elected the Pope?

The Devil.

Mikey wrote:And who elected the Pope?

Martyred wrote:Remember that time when Diem fell down that flight of stairs? Yeah, that was so tragic.

PSUFAN wrote:While I'd like to see the Pope led off in chains, perhaps while he's still free to flap his rotten gums, the deplorable example he presents can help wake everyday Catholics from their sheeple stupor. Nothing would reform the stinkingly corrupt Church faster than the waking of the Fold to moral evaluation - something heretofore unknown to them.

mvscal wrote:

Mikey wrote:And who elected the Pope?

The College of Cardinals. What, exactly, is the point you're trying to make? Do you even have one?

Even some of Anderson's opponents see him more as a true believer than a church-obsessed variation of a lawyerly ambulance chaser.

"Jeff is not just after money," said Jeffrey Lena, a U.S.-based lawyer for the Vatican. "He has enough to buy his own island if he wants. (But) what he is doing in these cases is part of his conception of himself. People figure out in life that there was something they really want to do, and I think he believes he has figured that out."

Anderson raised three children in the Roman Catholic tradition of his first wife, but his work representing abuse victims in the 1980s turned him off to organized religion. He became an atheist but says he regained his faith 13 years ago, when he began confronting his alcoholism at AA meetings.

"I had to look at myself and turn things over to a higher spiritual power," said Anderson, who doesn't identify with a religious tradition and describes his faith as "eclectic."

In 2002, revelations of church abuse and cover-up in Boston set off a wave of priest abuse allegations that turned church lawsuits into a national industry. "Until that time, it was a solo journey," Anderson said. "That set me on another trajectory entirely, with an intensity that hasn't slowed much if it all."

Mikey wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Mikey wrote:And who elected the Pope?

The College of Cardinals. What, exactly, is the point you're trying to make? Do you even have one?

The Vatican has no permanent citizens.

58 Cardinals, none of whom actually live there.
A couple hundred other clergy.
The Swiss Guard.

All of them appointed by the Pope either directly or indirectly, and none of these will remain citizens once their appointments are over.

And the Pope is "elected" by the Cardinals. His claim to "sovereignty" or whatever over some basically non-existent state is no more and no less legitimate than Noriega's was.

But hey, if you want to kiss his ass, be my guest.

The Pope is the ruler of both the Vatican City State and the Holy See. The Holy See, as the supreme body of government of the Catholic Church, is a sovereign juridical entity under international law.

Tom In VA wrote:

PSUFAN wrote:While I'd like to see the Pope led off in chains, perhaps while he's still free to flap his rotten gums, the deplorable example he presents can help wake everyday Catholics from their sheeple stupor. Nothing would reform the stinkingly corrupt Church faster than the waking of the Fold to moral evaluation - something heretofore unknown to them.

Hey dude, while you're up there can you make sure to have it bright and sunny this weekend ? I've got some plans.

TIA

Martyred wrote:

Mikey wrote:And who elected the Pope?

The Devil.

PSUFAN wrote: If deploring pedo criminals is to wax holier-than-thou, Tom...I guess I'm fine with that.

mvscal wrote:The Pope is the ruler of both the Vatican City State and the Holy See. The Holy See, as the supreme body of government of the Catholic Church, is a sovereign juridical entity under international law.

Mikey wrote:Did I ever say that it wasn't "a sovereign juridical entity under international law"?

If Google decided to build a wall around their campus in the Bay Area, dress their board of directors in funny hats, and declare that they're a sovereign state, Sergey Brin is President for life and infallible representative of cyberspace on earth, it would be pretty close to the same thing.

Mikey wrote:But you'd still come in with some obvious statement of fact, and no discussion at all.

Tom In VA wrote:

Mikey wrote:But you'd still come in with some obvious statement of fact, and no discussion at all.

Mikey wrote:

Tom In VA wrote:

Mikey wrote:But you'd still come in with some obvious statement of fact, and no discussion at all.

What's so funny?

Mikey wrote:Yep, and it's a typical and transparent tactic.