Look, in the part of Oregon where I live there are plenty of people who would vote for Roy Moore. Thankfully, however, they'll never get the chance. So I not sayin' my state is full of Rhodes Scholars by comparison, but c'mon, we're talking about the state's Governor's race. In 2010.
Convince me that left to its own devices your state would not be a Christian Theocracy.
Q, West Coast Style wrote:Oh, and RACK Bill Maher.
Fail!
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:33 am
by Van
The "Roll Tide!" there at the end was beautiful.
:D
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:44 am
by Diego in Seattle
Q, West Coast Style wrote:Sam and other Bammeranians,
Look, in the part of Oregon where I live there are plenty of people who would vote for Roy Moore. Thankfully, however, they'll never get the chance. So I not sayin' my state is full of Rhodes Scholars by comparison, but c'mon, we're talking about the state's Governor's race. In 2010.
Who do you think will get the GOP nod in your state?
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:52 am
by mvscal
Q, West Coast Style wrote:Oh, and RACK Bill Maher.
Good job outting yourself as a mindless fucktard not that any further confirmation was necessary.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:06 am
by poptart
Q wrote:Convince me that left to its own devices your state would not be a Christian Theocracy.
Why do you hate freedom?
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:19 am
by Dinsdale
Diego in Seattle wrote:Who do you think will get the GOP nod in your state?
Chris Dudley seems to have a sizable lead in the polls.
Warms the :heart:. A guy who says that just maybe, it's time to rope in the spending, without slamming on the brakes fast enough to send the socialist mecca into a tailspin.
Which kinda speaks to Pop's california thread -- the problem with Oregon government is that approximately 50% of the population is either a state/local employee, or on the dole. And as 88's (?) sig mentions, once people are allowed to vote themselves money, you're done. Witness the absolutely ridiculous ballot measures that were passed -- a completely asinine new corporate tax (for larger companies, based on sales rather than profit... who the fuck comes up with this shit?), which essentially was to grant pay raises to the public employee unions (who already make some ridiculous percentage (the exact number escapes me at the moment, but it's big) more than their private sector counterparts, and get through-the-roof bennies. But when half benefit, it isn't exactly a "fair" election. Many of the largest employers are talking about moving, and established ones have announced that future expansion won't be in Oregon.
So, therein lies the problem. No one is going to not vote themself a pay raise -- it would defy common sense. But when half are sucking the taxpayer tit, any new tax to benefit public unions is going to pass.
My state has taxed itself into unemployment. And the Smart People are realizing this...
Enter Chris Dudley. A good ol' fashioned Conservative. His charitable acts are off-the-charts since he retired from hoops, and he has a vague plan, but he has a plan.
If Kitzhaber The Nazi (tried to override the state Constitution in his last go-around... no, really -- he declared some "dictatorship right of governorship to try and seize funds that were to be returned, by Constitutional Amendment, to the overcharged taxpayers... he's unfot for office)... anyhoo, if he, by some extreme statewide brainfart, is reelected, I'll contemplte moving... and not to Washington. The man who said on his way out "Oregon is ungovernable" has a lot of fucking nerve running again.
I think (just a feeling) that there's going to be a shift back to my younger days here -- moderate repubs, like it usually was in days gone by.
Something needs to give -- no one in power wants to tax anything but "evil corporations" -- they're driving out anyone who produces anything, Intel is starting to send anything new elsewhere, Nike has threatened to move, the huge steel fab places are pissed, and 100,000 jobs could leave as soon as tomorrow, if our transplanted idiots still think this is some crazy Liberal Utopia... it ain't working.
Hopefully, we can ditch David Wu as congressman, too -- ranked in the top 5 of "biggest spenders in Congress."
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:25 am
by Go Coogs'
Rick Perry will win again but not by much. Bill White was a very popular mayor in Houston and should garner a ton of support from the dense areas within the city limits.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:21 am
by Mr T
I laugh at most if not all the political commercials.
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^This one is just completely fucked. Not the issue he is addressing but the video cuts
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I'm voting for this guy because he said he wasnt going to take a salary.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:47 am
by Trampis
Based on just those comercials I would have to agree with you Mr T.
The last guy seems like the only decent one of the three, with that James guy convieniently hitting the hot button/doesnt really effect much people, issues. What a tool that James guy is. And the guy hunting??...with his boys and having dinner with his chubby daughter....almost Bristol Palin esque daughter?...that guy appears to to be a tool also.
Good luck Alabama.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:00 am
by M Club
sorry, this ad wins. i'm moving to bama just to vote for this guy. and watch decent football. yeah, motherfucking sec!!!!
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:15 am
by poptart
88 wrote:The Ten Commandments have no modern legal significance
Yes, and any such "monument" to the Ten Commandments also very obviously doesn't establish any religon or prohibit anyone from exercising their religion.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:39 pm
by Carson
Moore ran before in a Republican primary right after he was tossed off the bench...and came in fourth.
The candidates I worry about are the ones who think a lottery will solve all the problems.
Bill Maher would not last two seconds outside of his studio. Nobody subscribes to HBO just so they can see/hear/worship him.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:57 pm
by poptart
You're preachin' to the choir.
Excellent take.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:57 pm
by Wolfman
Rack Peterson for Ag Commish ! I love the way he holds up his rifle near the end. Double racks for that. Did I say that bill Maher is a shithead?
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 4:58 pm
by Van
M Club wrote:sorry, this ad wins. i'm moving to bama just to vote for this guy. and watch decent football. yeah, motherfucking sec!!!!
I mean...wow!
"I got a gun! See my big ass gun? I'm mighty pissed off, too. I'm a businessman, and I got a gun. ROLL TIDE!"
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:14 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
M Club wrote:
"BETCHYOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT!"
bwahahaha, what a douche.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:26 pm
by Van
Sudden Sam wrote:Parody of Tim James's ads:
"If you see someone foreigny-lookin'..."
I especially loved the guy's dramatic "pause...look down...pause again...look up" bit. That was what made me laugh the most in the real ads for that douche.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:00 pm
by Mr T
Van wrote:
I mean...wow!
"I got a gun! See my big ass gun? I'm mighty pissed off, too. I'm a businessman, and I got a gun. ROLL TIDE!"
I am going to use that when I run for governor but change Roll Tide to chanting of S-E-C over and over while it fades to black.
First I need to legally change my name to Bear Bryant, Southeastern Conference or Dale Earnhardt.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:07 pm
by Mr T
Carson wrote:The candidates I worry about are the ones who think a lottery will solve all the problems.
It wont solve a lot of problems but it will keep some money in state
Fuck all the church goers who were told to vote no on the lottery because their preacher said so. Every mother fucker who told me the lottery was bad has gone to TN, GA, MS and FL to gamble since that vote
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:21 am
by Q, West Coast Style
mvscal wrote:
fucktard
Nice 6th grade-level insult. You're getting more sophisticated.
poptart wrote:
Why do you hate freedom?
Same reason you apparently support apartheid
Dinsdale wrote:
Chris Dudley seems to have a sizable lead in the polls.
He's winning me over with his promise to rebuild the state "brick by brick."
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 2:55 am
by BarFlie
Q, West Coast Style wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
Chris Dudley seems to have a sizable lead in the polls.
He's winning me over with his promise to rebuild the state "brick by brick."
keyword 'promise' ...
He's a politition running for office dude. Wake the fuck up.
Re: Alabama Gov', Republican Primary.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:19 am
by Diego in Seattle
BarFlie wrote:
Q, West Coast Style wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
Chris Dudley seems to have a sizable lead in the polls.
He's winning me over with his promise to rebuild the state "brick by brick."
keyword 'promise' ...
He's a politition running for office dude. Wake the fuck up.
88 wrote:The Ten Commandments have no modern legal significance
Yes, and any such "monument" to the Ten Commandments also very obviously doesn't establish any religon or prohibit anyone from exercising their religion.
I think the Establishment Clause has been misinterpreted for a long time. The First Amendment provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The clear intent was to prohibit the "establishment" of a national church, like the Church of England. At the time the Constitution was ratified, many states had official or established state religions. This was not a problem then, and it shouldn't be a problem now. States should be able to adopt a "state" religion, if they so choose, but the First Amendment should protect everyone's right to exercise whatever religion (or no religion) they choose, whether the state has "established" an official one or not. And if people don't like that, they could amend the Constitution to prohibit the establishment of state religions.
Except for the fact that the Fourteenth Amendment has since been ratified, and Courts consistently have held that the Fourteenth incorporates most of the BoR and makes it applicable to the states as well. Hell, even Scalia doesn't object to that anymore, not too strongly anyway.