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Brr! NFL going outdoors in NJ for 2014 Super Bowl

By JAIME ARON, AP Sports Writer Jaime Aron, Ap Sports Writer – 2 hrs 29 mins ago
IRVING, Texas – Check the antifreeze, grab the mittens, make sure the airport's not snowed in.
\We're going to the Super Bowl.

In New Jersey. In February!

NFL owners voted Tuesday to put the 2014 Super Bowl in the new $1.6 billion Meadowlands Stadium that this season will become home to the New York Jets and Giants. It's the first time the league has gone to a cold weather site that doesn't have a dome and, until now, those places couldn't even bid on the big game.

The league made an exception for the New York area, and New York only. But just a few years ago, the NHL experimented with an outdoor game on New Year's Day, and it was such a success that teams now fight to host what's become an annual event.

"We believe the owners have the faith in us that 3 1/2 years from now we'll put on a remarkable event," Giants co-owner Jonathan Tisch said on the NFL Network. "The greatest game in the world will be played on the greatest stage in the world."

For all the hoopla on putting the Super Bowl in the Big Apple, it wasn't a slam-dunk. It took four votes by NFL owners to pick New Jersey over two Florida cities, Miami and Tampa. Miami was eliminated after the second ballot.

If the NFL decides to wait and see how this foray into the great outdoors in winter goes, it could be until about 2019 or 2020 to try again because it takes a year or two to put together a bid for a game that's another four years away.

The slogan for New York's bid is "Make Some History." The first piece likely to be made is a record-low temperature at kickoff. The current record is 39 degrees in 1972 at Tulane Stadium in New Orleans, and that would be considered a warm February day in East Rutherford, N.J.

There's never been snow in a Super Bowl game and that could happen, too.

The average temperature range for the Meadowlands area during February is 24 to 40 degrees, with several inches of rain, according to the bid documents. Remember, the game kicks off after sunset in the Eastern time zone, so temperatures would be dropping throughout the night. To read the full article [url=By JAIME ARON, AP Sports Writer Jaime Aron, Ap Sports Writer – 2 hrs 29 mins ago
IRVING, Texas – Check the antifreeze, grab the mittens, make sure the airport's not snowed in.

We're going to the Super Bowl.

In New Jersey. In February!

NFL owners voted Tuesday to put the 2014 Super Bowl in the new $1.6 billion Meadowlands Stadium that this season will become home to the New York Jets and Giants. It's the first time the league has gone to a cold weather site that doesn't have a dome and, until now, those places couldn't even bid on the big game.

The league made an exception for the New York area, and New York only. But just a few years ago, the NHL experimented with an outdoor game on New Year's Day, and it was such a success that teams now fight to host what's become an annual event.

"We believe the owners have the faith in us that 3 1/2 years from now we'll put on a remarkable event," Giants co-owner Jonathan Tisch said on the NFL Network. "The greatest game in the world will be played on the greatest stage in the world."

For all the hoopla on putting the Super Bowl in the Big Apple, it wasn't a slam-dunk. It took four votes by NFL owners to pick New Jersey over two Florida cities, Miami and Tampa. Miami was eliminated after the second ballot.

If the NFL decides to wait and see how this foray into the great outdoors in winter goes, it could be until about 2019 or 2020 to try again because it takes a year or two to put together a bid for a game that's another four years away.

The slogan for New York's bid is "Make Some History." The first piece likely to be made is a record-low temperature at kickoff. The current record is 39 degrees in 1972 at Tulane Stadium in New Orleans, and that would be considered a warm February day in East Rutherford, N.J.

There's never been snow in a Super Bowl game and that could happen, too.

The average temperature range for the Meadowlands area during February is 24 to 40 degrees, with several inches of rain, according to the bid documents. Remember, the game kicks off after sunset in the Eastern time zone, so temperatures would be dropping throughout the night. To read the full article CLICK HERE

I hope it snows 3 ft overnight, every airport within a 100 miles is closed and the temperature at game time is 20 below. Fuck New Jersey!

Fuck off you pussy. Football is meant to be played in the elements.

There's my take.

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It's about fucking time. February football in 80 degrees just ain't right. Sorta like Christmas in Alabama.

BSmack wrote:Fuck off you pussy. Football is meant to be played in the elements.

I'm from Chicago you clown act. Not knocking football outdoors just saying fuck New Jersey and whatever town you live in also asshole.

poptart wrote:There's my take.

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Beat you by 15 minutes Korean time Poptart :D

BarFlie wrote:just saying fuck New Jersey

What's your problem with New Jersey?

BSmack wrote:Fuck off you pussy. Football is meant to be played in the elements.

That may be the case among all you northern inhabitants, but lets say there is a 5 degree windchill and freezing snow on SB night. It's the pass happy Saints or Texans having to play a team like the Jets or Steelers who are prone to going with the running attack when the elements aren't agreeable.

Those elements might be shutting down the most dynamic part of a team's success. The greatest show on turf wouldn't have stood a chance against Tennessee had the SB been played in Green Bay in February.

I'm just saying, fans want to see the best of both teams. Mother nature dispensing freezing rain on the biggest stage in football isn't going to make for great football.

BarFlie wrote:

BSmack wrote:Fuck off you pussy. Football is meant to be played in the elements.

I'm from Chicago you clown act. Not knocking football outdoors just saying fuck New Jersey and whatever town you live in also asshole.

Nice blast.

Go Coogs' wrote:Those elements might be shutting down the most dynamic part of a team's success.

Tough fucking shit, you whimpering faggot.

Wow! $1.6 BILLION...its a hell of a resession we're in eh?

They should play the sb in all the cities that have an nfl team. Only seems right to me.

Go Coogs' wrote:

BSmack wrote:Fuck off you pussy. Football is meant to be played in the elements.

That may be the case among all you northern inhabitants, but lets say there is a 5 degree windchill and freezing snow on SB night. It's the pass happy Saints or Texans having to play a team like the Jets or Steelers who are prone to going with the running attack when the elements aren't agreeable.

Those elements might be shutting down the most dynamic part of a team's success. The greatest show on turf wouldn't have stood a chance against Tennessee had the SB been played in Green Bay in February.

I'm just saying, fans want to see the best of both teams. Mother nature dispensing freezing rain on the biggest stage in football isn't going to make for great football.

What?

Some of the greatest games in NFL history have been played in the worst possible weather conditions.

Your typical SB audience wants an "air show", not clumps of sod and snow stuck in player's helmets.

This will not go over well. One and done.

Go Coogs' wrote:Those elements might be shutting down the most dynamic part of a team's success. The greatest show on turf wouldn't have stood a chance against Tennessee had the SB been played in Green Bay in February.

Who gives a fuck? Those are the breaks. As a conference champion, I'd hope you're prepared to battle in any condition. Chances are your franchise has played a game or two in cold weather. Do you shed a tear for northern college football teams that are built to play in windy, cold weather, yet consistently have to play southern teams in their own backyard in bowl games? I'm sure you do.

Marty, its not that I want to see an air attack. I just want to see one team's strength go up against another team's strength in optimal conditions. Let's say for arguments sake that another defense like Baltimore's 2000 team comes along and makes it to the superbowl and they play a team similar to Arizona's pass offense of 2008. I want to see who wins that chess match without the weather inhibiting one team vs the other.

Better yet, lets say Indy and New Orleans played against each other at in New England in February. Seriously, who wants to watch a field position battle between two high powered offenses?

War Wagon wrote:

BarFlie wrote:just saying fuck New Jersey

What's your problem with New Jersey?

Aside from it being New York's asshole I got nothin.

Go Coogs' wrote:Seriously, who wants to watch a field position battle between two high powered offenses?

Seriously?

You are a dumbfuck who should never offer up a football take again.

Go Coogs' wrote:I just want to see one team's strength go up against another team's strength in optimal conditions.

What you are is a fucking moron. What if one team's strength is performance in sub-optimal conditions?

War Wagon wrote:Seriously?

You are a dumbfuck who should never offer up a football take again.

Care to elaborate?

1) Marty is right. The typical Super Bowl fan douchebag isn't interested in a 13-6 field position game.

2) Weather is a crap shoot and to be a championship team, a team needs to be able to function at a high level in ALL weather conditions.

3) Super Bowl in a cold weather city is just straight up DUMB. Potential travel difficulties and hassle - along with general discomfort for those taking part in the festivities of the week.

mvscal wrote:What if one team's strength is performance in sub-optimal conditions?

That's not really a strength. Mother nature may give advantages to a team who play in shitty conditions over teams who play in the state of Florida, but a strength?

Pull your head out of your ass and then come talk to me.

The NFL is already diluted with bullshit as it is...time to take it back down a notch.

Watching Jeff Hostetler's Raiders standing there, fucking frozen in their shoes, getting mauled by the Bills in '93 in one of the coldest games in NFL history was one of my greatest football viewing moments.
I won't say it was the greatest example of finesse ever...but it sure was a spectacle of men playing a man's game in natural conditions. Even as cold as it was, the fans went berserk...taunting the ill-prepared Raiders...Bills players acting like "it ain't no thing".

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Do you shed a tear for northern college football teams that are built to play in windy, cold weather, yet consistently have to play southern teams in their own backyard in bowl games? I'm sure you do.

I don't.

First of all, the conditions don't cater to the southern schools because it's December and January when the weather is, for the most part, 60 and partly cloudy. That isn't heat wave dehydrating type weather.

Secondly, all schools play in that type of weather during the season. For the northern schools, they play those games in the first 3 weeks of the season. For the southern schools, its the latter part of the season.

Go Coogs' wrote:

mvscal wrote:What if one team's strength is performance in sub-optimal conditions?

That's not really a strength. Mother nature may give advantages to a team who play in shitty conditions over teams who play in the state of Florida, but a strength?

Pull your head out of your ass and then come talk to me.

Florida has great weather? There's a torrential downpour in Tampa every freaking day at 4pm in February.

I'd much rather see a 13-7 asskicking bloody slugfest than a bunch of narrow-waisted sprinters settle it by swinging purses at each other on astroturf.

RACK Trampis. Every NFL city should host a Super Bowl...except Jacksonville. That 'ol nag needs a .22 behind the ear.

OCmike wrote:
Florida has great weather? There's a torrential downpour in Tampa every freaking day at 4pm in February.

Really ?

Go Coogs' wrote:The greatest show on turf wouldn't have stood a chance against Tennessee had the SB been played in Green Bay in February.

That's bullshit. Does the name Marshall Faulk ring a bell? Are you telling me that the Rams would have been incapable to mustering a running game when they had Marshall FREAKING Faulk at the prime of his game?. And the Titans had a fairly mobile QB and a pass rush predicated on speed on Javon Kearse's freakish speed. They would have been affected too.

I'm just saying, fans want to see the best of both teams. Mother nature dispensing freezing rain on the biggest stage in football isn't going to make for great football.

You're probably one of those guys who thinks the British Open sucks too.

Some of the best games in the history of football have been played in "adverse" conditions. Deal with it.

i-ro-ny

n., pl., -nies.
1. a.The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
b.An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
c.A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.

2.a.Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" (Richard Kain).
b.An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at ironic.

3.Rumple complaining about others having to perform in adverse conditions.

Go Coogs' wrote:all schools play in that type of weather during the season.

So why are you concerned about NFL teams? NFL teams travel all over the country and play in all different types of weather; moreso than college teams who stay put in one region, for the most part. Furthermore, NFL teams have players from all over the country as opposed to a predominant region, so they should be even more prepared to play in adverse conditions.

BSmack wrote:Fuck off you pussy. Football is meant to be played in the elements.

RACK!!!

BarFlie wrote:

BSmack wrote:Fuck off you pussy. Football is meant to be played in the elements.

I'm from Chicago you clown act. Not knocking football outdoors just saying fuck New Jersey and whatever town you live in also asshole.

New Jersey ain't a bad place. As long as you're on the right side of the turnpike.

Bucmonkey wrote:

OCmike wrote:
Florida has great weather? There's a torrential downpour in Tampa every freaking day at 4pm in February.

Really ?

C'mon, dude. You live in "The Lightning Capital of the World". Unlike the left-front shock of the Rumplefamily's minivan, claiming Tampa doesn't get much rain in February isn't going to carry a lot of weight.

Friggin' rack. Man's game played in Man's weather. Bring on the elements.

Not to pee in anybody's Laphroaig, however....

New York/New Jersey?

The Biggest Show, on the Biggest Stage, in the Biggest City on Earth? (And just go ahead and fuck off right now, footie fags. Yes, I DO realize that there are a half-dozen world cities with a larger population. Again, fuck off. This is fucking 'Merica and it's New fucking York.)

...Paging Thomas Harris (Black Sunday) and Tom Clancy (The Sum of All Fears) to the white courtesy phone, please...

Um, the New Jersey Sports Authority might just wanna consider soliciting Tar-zhey for stadium naming rights, cuz the NFL just painted a HUGE bullsear on the Cancerlands.

Oh, and given the Allah-heads a four-year head start to get their collective nuclear shit together, to boot.

And you thought 9/11 was tragic...

Security for this Game will be sick. But patrons would best be served anyway to keep their heads down and a weather eye out for a misbegotten airliner-or-three as well....

Sad thought.

Truman wrote:Friggin' rack. Man's game played in Man's weather. Bring on the elements.

Not to pee in anybody's Laphroaig, however....

New York/New Jersey?

The Biggest Show, on the Biggest Stage, in the Biggest City on Earth? (And just go ahead and fuck off right now, footie fags. Yes, I DO realize that there are a half-dozen world cities with a larger population. Again, fuck off. This is fucking 'Merica and it's New fucking York.)

...Paging Thomas Harris (Black Sunday) and Tom Clancy (The Sum of All Fears) to the white courtesy phone, please...

Um, the New Jersey Sports Authority might just wanna consider soliciting Tar-zhey for stadium naming rights, cuz the NFL just painted a HUGE bullsear on the Cancerlands.

Oh, and given the Allah-heads a four-year head start to get their collective nuclear shit together, to boot.

And you thought 9/11 was tragic...

Security for this Game will be sick. But patrons would best be served anyway to keep their heads down and a weather eye out for a misbegotten airliner-or-three as well....

Sad thought.

Thanks for turning a pretty good sports related thread into your worst hand-wringing, fear-mongering, pants-pissing freak outs.
Are you also afraid of the mailman? Leaves turning colour? Someone getting their chocolate in your peanut butter?

What a frightened little girl you are.

Good point, Merdé.

I shoulda referenced those sports-loving, nuclear-capable Red Canadians as well.

You done with my ankle or are you waiting for a serious Timberland to your grill?

Truman wrote:Good point, Merdé.

I shoulda referenced those sports-loving, nuclear-capable Red Canadians as well.

You done with my ankle or are you waiting for a serious Timberland to your grill?

I'm ankle biting because you crawled in here with your sagging diaper trailing behind?

Oh, that's rich.

Here, schmeer. You'd ankle-bite me regardless if I crawled up into



Seriously, Merdé, America is beyond you. Don't you have a Revolution to foment somewhere?

Martyred wrote:Someone getting their chocolate in your peanut butter?

~moan~

--Stanley Pickle

Wonder who'll do the 0.5 time show, Springsteen ?

Wolfman wrote:Wonder who'll do the 0.5 time show, Springsteen ?

Springsteen's played out. If the show is gonna be performed by an act from the NY/NJ area, other candidates could include Southside Johnny & the Asbury Jukes (meh), Bon Jovi (sux), Kiss (sux), Blue Oyster Cult (deece choice, but won't happen), and the New York Dolls, which would get my vote. Would love to hear the Dolls do "Shithouse Blues" at halftime.

Wolfman wrote:Wonder who'll do the 0.5 time show, Springsteen ?

These guys: