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Southern California, penalized earlier this month for a lack of institutional control, on Friday filed an appeal with the NCAA asking that certain findings of the Committee on Infractions be overturned and some of the penalties be reduced.

The USC football program was given a two-year bowl ban, four years' probation, loss of scholarships and forfeits of an entire year's games for improper benefits to Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush dating to the Trojans' 2004 national championship.

USC is asking that the two-year postseason ban in football be reduced to one year, and that the scholarship penalties in football for the 2011-12, 2012-13 and 2013-14 academic years be reduced to five rather than 10 each year.

"We are hopeful that the NCAA Infractions Appeals Committee will agree with our position on appeal, and reduce the penalties," said Todd Dickey, USC's senior vice president for administration.

Pending consideration of its appeal, USC said it will implement the bowl ban for the coming season and certain scholarship-related penalties in football. The university also said it was satisfied with the NCAA's determination that the Trojans' self-imposed penalties on the men's basketball and women's tennis programs were sufficient.

God damn. Take your beating like a man and build it back up.

Saying to the NCAA for years and then begging for mercy when they brought the

Pete Carroll oughta be banned from the game of football at any level. Shit he overlooked/condoned should be grounds for a lifetime ban. Pete Rose would agree.

Handwringing hyperbole much?

Jesus. That's nearly as astute of a post as your gem declaring Texas would be a perennial five-loss team within a few years.

H4ever wrote:Pete Carroll oughta be banned from the game of football at any level. Shit he overlooked/condoned should be grounds for a lifetime ban. Pete Rose would agree.

Kinda like gentleman Tom overlooking a decade of rampant steroid abuse and playing a woman beater? Careful of those stones beig cast.

Killian wrote:

H4ever wrote:Pete Carroll oughta be banned from the game of football at any level. Shit he overlooked/condoned should be grounds for a lifetime ban. Pete Rose would agree.

Kinda like gentleman Tom overlooking a decade of rampant steroid abuse and playing a woman beater? Careful of those stones beig cast.

You mean the "rampant" steriod abuse going on at every level (including high school to some extent) up to this very day? The abuse that is more "rampant" now than 10 years ago? Yea....that's why Nebraska was good/the best ever back then. *rolly eyes here*

If you knew a fucking thing about those teams....gentleman Tom didn't need Phillips for one fucking down. The Pipeline and Ahman Green was butcher-raping every foe just fine without the help of LP.

TO hung his neck out. He was trying to help Phillips salvage his future. Nebraska didn't need Phillips to win.

Van wrote:Handwringing hyperbole much?

Jesus. That's nearly as astute of a post as your gem declaring Texas would be a perennial five-loss team within a few years.

My perogative/opinion/post. I don't need your stamp of approval. Unlike you...whoring yourself for board cred for years...I don't give a fuck.

Now give me your thoughts on this post...I anxiously await your innermost.

Martard runned him, but he's still reading here..

H4ever wrote:Unlike you...whoring yourself for board cred for years...I don't give a fuck.

No desire to whore yourself when your reproductive organs are safely tucked away in your wife's purse I take it.

Believe the Heupel wrote:No problem with the appeal. It's not like the NCAA is going to come back and say "Fuck, on further review, we're going to keep the penalties in place and also give you herpes." No downside at all-they'd be foolish not to try.

Whats at issue is the NCAA taking the word of a career felon for its face value just because he was saying what it was they wanted to hear. The judges didnt take his word without any proof, USC had no reason to believe that the NCAA would do what the judges did not. Then when Lake said that Reggie started taking money in March of 05, the NCAA pushed it back 4 months for the sole reason of taking away the title USC won against Oklahoma and the ability to put a 2 year bowl ban on the Trojans. All USC wants is a fair judgement, if the NCAA is going to take Lake for his word without allowing the school to cross examine or even show proof that he might be wrong, the NCAA cant add stuff to what Lake said just for the benfit of punishing USC more. USC is not denying that Reggie and Lake had some sort of dirty things going on, theyre just appealing the length of time that it happened, even if it is conceding to what Lake claimed, and what the NCAA ruled that they should have known.
Pete Carroll had nothing to do with this, if anything he may have seen the evidence against Reggie long after Reggie had left the school and realized that he and the school may have overlooked some things but he as well as the school or anyone affiliated with it was not involved in any sort of cheating.

SoCalTrjn wrote:USC is not denying that Reggie and Lake had some sort of dirty things going on, theyre just appealing the length of time that it happened, even if it is conceding to what Lake claimed, and what the NCAA ruled that they should have known.

If, as you have said ad nauseum, U$C had no way of knowing what was going on, how could they appeal the length of time that it happened? They either know or didn't know. No matter, they are still responsible for not knowing even if that were the case.

IndyFrisco wrote:

SoCalTrjn wrote:USC is not denying that Reggie and Lake had some sort of dirty things going on, theyre just appealing the length of time that it happened, even if it is conceding to what Lake claimed, and what the NCAA ruled that they should have known.

If, as you have said ad nauseum, U$C had no way of knowing what was going on, how could they appeal the length of time that it happened? They either know or didn't know. No matter, they are still responsible for not knowing even if that were the case.

Lloyd Lake hiself said he did not meet with Reggie or Lamar until March of 2005, the Griffens didnt move in to the house until April of 05, Lake was still in prison during the 05 Orange Bowl. USC is appealing that it began in December of 04 like the NCAA is trying to claim it did even though their witness said it started 4 months later.

Lake was in prison. Where was Michaels?

IndyFrisco wrote:Lake was in prison. Where was Michaels?

Michaels met the Griffens through Lake after Lakehe got out of prison. Didnt you read the NCAAs report? Lamar Griffen met Michael Michaels through Lloyd Lake at a San Diego Padres game in April of 2005