92 years old - 50 years in Senate - props to the Reaper...

[Derron]

How fucking long does a politician need to be in the Senate ?

How effective can a politician be when he is a babbling drooling fool of 92 years old ? Of course it is just West Virginia..

But catch that key phrase " steered billions of dollars to his home state"

Props to the Reaper for doing what the stupid hillbillys did not have the sense to do for 50 fucking years.....

http://www.katu.com/news/national/97302014.html

[Screw_Michigan]

His posting are horrible and he knows it. He just is too stupid too know how really stupid he is.

[Wolfman]

[perfect world]Two terms are enough for any elected politician.[/perfect world]

[PSUFAN]

Politics - like it or not - is about steering resources to your peeps. Thurmond, Byrd, Murtha and other old fogies were experts at that. What they did was no different than what Dick Cheney did as VPOTUS-in-charge - he directed boatloads of resources to his peeps.

[Cuda]

Byrd was, in fact, the class of the DemocRat party. There was no classier Dem.

[OCmike]

[perfect world]Two terms are enough for any elected politician.[/perfect world]

Politicians LOVE term limits here in CA. What they do is give (for example) prison guards 90% pension rates by tacking a provision onto a bill that they know will pass like a school improvement bill or something. Then the state is completely buttfucked by their bill in ten years, they're already out of office and earning six-figure consulting fees in that same industry.

[LTS TRN 2]

Byrd was a great American hero, of course, for his staunch opposition to invading Iraq, as well as the shameless midnight passage of the Patriot Act. The KKK chapter of his life is totally irrelevant and of course no one here can offer any coherent dispute to any of his positions or statements. He'll be sorely missed.

[mvscal]

The KKK chapter of his life is totally irrelevant

...because he was a libtarded Democrat. Got it.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The KKK chapter of his life is totally irrelevant

Just like that, eh?

[Dinsdale]

The KKK chapter of his life is totally irrelevant

While one could try to make a case that "a person is a product of their environment" to try and make an excuse for engaging in such a deplorable organization...

for you to try and make it would be absolute comedy gold.

You... are a fucking mush-brained idiot. If a member of Congress with the exact same resume' was a republican, you'd be bashing them from the mountaintops. Your political "leanings" boil down to a simple matter of the letter next to their name... the mark of a true simpleton.

Me, I'm a Conservative. And since the Republican Party doesn't embrace Conservatism (note the capital "C"), I don't identify. The Tea Party doesn't truly embrace Conservatism, due to a christian bent. Libertarians don't really embrace anything but political frustration.

But there's a whole bunch of us Conservatives out there, without a party. We WILL rise.

Make your time, commies.

And it looks like Oregon will be electing one as guv this fall, for the first time in 30+ years... warms the :heart: .

[Derron]

And it looks like Oregon will be electing one as guv this fall, for the first time in 30+ years... warms the .

And the first Republican add appeared on the evening news tonight..we can only hope the state is taken from the hands of the liberals after such a long time...

[Dinsdale]

The legislature was repub for a long time until recently... but Oregon repubs are fucking liberals too.

What happened to the bastion of conservatism I grew up in?

Fuggin transplants.

[Diego in Seattle]

The legislature was repub for a long time until recently... but Oregon repubs are fucking liberals too.

What happened to the bastion of conservatism I grew up in?

Fuggin transplants.

You do realize that the repub candidate is a Cali transplant, don't you?

[LTS TRN 2]

Total bullshit, dins, as I've always insisted there's no significant difference between the Demos and the GOP, though the latter has been conspicuously hijacked by absolutely insufferable lunatics. But no, Feinstein alone shows how fake a simple "democrat" designation can be. And there's plenty more.

Meanwhile, as I suggested, no one here can actually refute any of Byrd's positions or statements. The difference between his dalliance in the KKK and the (non-membership) official racist policies of a lunatic like Strom Thurmond is quite simply this: Byrd never actually sought or supported any such Jim Crow bullshit. You see, it really was a brief period which had no direct consequences in his political life. As for scared and tedious twits like you trying to make an issue of it now, well..Karl Rove is your scout leader after all. :wink:

[mvscal]

That "dalliance" lasted ten years, dipshit. He was a kleagle and exalted cyclops of his chapter. He wasn't there for punch and cookies.

[R-Jack]

Hey, we are talking about the KKK here Felcho. Associating with an organization like that can't be flippantly dismissed and treated as if it never happened. This isn't your heterosexuality we're talking 'bout here.

[Derron]

The legislature was repub for a long time until recently... but Oregon repubs are fucking liberals too.

What happened to the bastion of conservatism I grew up in?

Fuggin transplants.

You do realize that the repub candidate is a Cali transplant, don't you?

And that the current Cali governor is an Austrian Aryan transplant also ? And while a Republican, he has done nothing to stop the implosion of that state on itself ..he only makes commercials and gets more plastic work done for him and his old lady...at least Dudley had the sense to get the fuck out of Cali..

[BSmack]

If Byrd gets a pass for being a leader within the KKK for 10 years, why doesn't the current Pope get a pass for his alleged by you brief boyhood membership in the Hitler Youth?

Byrd came correct in later life. The pope is a lying sack of shit who deserves to rot in hell (assuming there is one) for covering up all those pedos and their sick crimes.

[Dinsdale]

You do realize that the repub candidate is a Connecticut transplant, don't you?

Yeah, professional basketball players have been known to move a lot.


Dude's been a resident since 1994 -- more of a homeboy than most of the people around here.


And it's crazy -- a dude with an econimicsdegree from Yale thinks we need to spend less money... and finally, people are starting to agree.

Make your time, illegals.

How sad is it that in a state where the state GOP went broke and needed a bailout, the dems couldn't come up with anything better than a retread (that was worn out the last go-around) who is being laughed at by every person that lived here during his first term? Only demographic he's carrying is people too young to remember what an unqualified dickbag he was. "The state Constitution doesn't matter, I'm keeping your money, since you people are ungovernable!"

Great way to go out... if he wasn't actually thinking about running again.

[Sirfindafold]

Byrd came correct in later life.

So did Bubba Clinton, but I wouldn't call it correct.

sin,

(B)Monica

[PSUFAN]

Byrd behaved as his time and place dictated. His involvement with the KKK was in keeping with the norms of that time and place.

In my book, that doesn't excuse him for the idiocy of that involvement. Would he have been around as long if he had been acting counter to his time and place? No.

His principled stand against W's war was admirable, and in many ways it ran counter to that time and place. It came late in his life and career, when he felt free to step outside of those norms. That's one good thing about these crusty old fucks; they stop campaigning at some point, even if it's 50 years in.

In my book, Byrd was a mixed bag. He worked hard for the people he represented, which is to be praised. Was that always for the greater good? Not really. I guess it depends on what you value in a pol.

[smackaholic]

In my book, Byrd was a mixed bag. He worked hard for the people he represented, which is to be praised. Was that always for the greater good?

If I knew for a certainty that a man was coming to my house with the conscious design of doing me good, I should run for my life, as from that dry and parching wind of the African deserts called the simoom, which fills the mouth and nose and ears and eyes with dust till you are suffocated, for fear that I should get some of his good done to me- some of its virus mingled with my blood. No- in this case I would rather suffer evil the natural way. A man is not a good man to me because he will feed me if I should be starving, or warm me if I should be freezing, or pull me out of a ditch if I should ever fall into one. I can find you a Newfoundland dog that will do as much.

newfies are awesome dogs. don't you be comparing them to politicians.

[mvscal]

Byrd came correct in later life.

How much later? He was still a segregationist and filibustering against the Civil Rights Act in 1964. Seems to be he didn't "come correct" until it became politically expedient to do so.

And what about all the other cross burners he recruited for the KKK. When did they come correct? How much damage did they do? Did he ever acknowledge that fact? How is that any different than the Pope who ignored 30 year old molestation charges?

[LTS TRN 2]

If Byrd gets a pass for being a leader within the KKK for 10 years, why doesn't the current Pope get a pass for his alleged by you brief boyhood membership in the Hitler Youth?

The rottweiller of the Vatican did get a full pass for his Hitler Youth--and German army duty. He was allowed to become a prominent official in the Church, and then take over the top spot. He's only getting run because of his perv protection, etc.

As for Byrd becoming the grand kleagle..well, I suppose that's quite serious, whatever it is. Anyways, if there's any suggestion that he went out night riding or lynched some Negro/Jew/Catholic, let's hear it. As for any legislations or statements which would seem to in any way support any sort of racist anything--where are they?

What's important about his great example of modern heroism, was his invincibility in standing up to hysterical and irrational efforts to ramrod through the Senate all manner of unexamined and often draconian legislation. Unlike the the GOP which these days is co-opted by a rigid and unrelenting agenda of a religious nature, Byrd did not allow irrationality, let alone superstition, to cloud his perspective. America needs minds like that in government now more than ever.

[mvscal]

As for any legislations or statements which would seem to in any way support any sort of racist anything--where are they?

I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”
— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944

Byrd joined with other Southern and border state Democrats to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964,[27] personally filibustering the bill for 14 hours, a move he had since said he regretted.[28] Despite an 83-day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.

Byrd also opposed Truman's attempt to desegregate the armed forces in 1948.

You remain a pitifully clueless dumbfuck.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Byrd behaved as his time and place dictated. His involvement with the KKK was in keeping with the norms of that time and place.

The ability to distinguish basic right from wrong was just as prevelant 60-sum years ago. I'm not sure that type of self-examination was important to him, and we'll never know. Once the Klan stood as a barrier instead of a tool for personal advancement, THEN it became important for him to remove himself from it and admit he was wrong.

[PSUFAN]

WHat? Go suck a black cock, you takeless bitch.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

You are a gaylord.

[Diego in Seattle]

You do realize that the repub candidate is a Connecticut transplant, don't you?

While he went to college in CT, he's from San Diego.

[R-Jack]

Anyone else seeing the humor in labeling someone that spent a significant chunk of his life tied to a terrorist organization as heroic for opposing a war on terror?

[OCmike]

And while a Republican, he has done nothing to stop the implosion of that state on itself

Dunno where you got idea, but it's patently false. Following the recall election he was all about getting shit done. Problem is, he completely underestimated the power of the CA unions and the CA legislative dems.

Here's what he put on the ballot in a special election shortly after taking office:
Proposition 74, which would lengthen the time it takes for public school teachers to get tenure
Proposition 75, aimed at curbing public employee unions' political spending
Proposition 76, which would limit state spending
Proposition 77, which would strip lawmakers of the ability to draw political voting districts

Had he gone with 76 and 77 first, things might have gone much differently for him. But by calling out the unions, and specifically the CA teacher's union, and packaging them all together, he completely fucked himself. They spent more than $100 million making sure all four of his measures failed. Sadly, once again our retarded voters believed the talking heads on a commercial, rather than common sense.

Oh yeah, and he may be a Hollywood self-obsessed tool, but the guy believed so much in those four measures that he spent $7 million of his own cash on ads, billboards, etc.

He's done his share of dumbfuckery, but you can't say that they guy didn't try to unfuck this state.

[Dinsdale]

You do realize that the repub candidate is a Connecticut transplant, don't you?

While he went to college in CT, he's from San Diego.

If by "San Diego," you mean "Stamford, Connecticut," then you'd be correct.

[BSmack]

Byrd came correct in later life.

How much later? He was still a segregationist and filibustering against the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

That was 46 years ago. Any other ancient history you would like to dredge up? The man did a hell of a lot more to rehabilitate his image and record than Lester Maddox, Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms ever dreamed of. Amongst the segregationist crowd, only George Wallace comes to mind as another who owned up to his past as thoroughly as Byrd.

[Derron]

And while a Republican, he has done nothing to stop the implosion of that state on itself

Dunno where you got idea, but it's patently false. Following the recall election he was all about getting shit done. Problem is, he completely underestimated the power of the CA unions and the CA legislative dems.

Here's what he put on the ballot in a special election shortly after taking office:
Proposition 74, which would lengthen the time it takes for public school teachers to get tenure
Proposition 75, aimed at curbing public employee unions' political spending
Proposition 76, which would limit state spending
Proposition 77, which would strip lawmakers of the ability to draw political voting districts

Had he gone with 76 and 77 first, things might have gone much differently for him. But by calling out the unions, and specifically the CA teacher's union, and packaging them all together, he completely fucked himself. They spent more than $100 million making sure all four of his measures failed. Sadly, once again our retarded voters believed the talking heads on a commercial, rather than common sense.

Oh yeah, and he may be a Hollywood self-obsessed tool, but the guy believed so much in those four measures that he spent $7 million of his own cash on ads, billboards, etc.

He's done his share of dumbfuckery, but you can't say that they guy didn't try to unfuck this state.

Now there you go, cracking on the teachers unions, the CO unions and all the unions in general. Expect all the bleeding pussy liberals to tell you how full of shit you are, how hard all the "educators" work and how little they make, and all that cunt drip drivel.

Let us just go ahead and remove the "CA" from your post and insert, well...just about any state in the Union and you have the same situation. And that $ 100 million, well ....that was taxpayer money originally since we paid all those fucks salaries and they in turn paid the unions for the graft they got for, and continue to get for them.

How many more years until the money is all gone and the unions are truly fucked ?

[mvscal]

Anyone else seeing the humor in labeling someone that spent a significant chunk of his life tied to a terrorist organization as heroic for opposing a war on terror?

Hey! C'mon. He said he was sorry. Stop living in the past and dredging up ancient history...well, unless you're talking about Strom Thurmond or blaming Bush for whatever.

[Diego in Seattle]

If by "San Diego," you mean "Stamford, Connecticut," then you'd be correct.

If I had meant "Stamford, Connecticut" I would have said so, asshat. By San Diego I meant Del Mar, CA., dumbfuck.

At least try Wiki once in a while so that you have somewhat of a chance of a looking like something like an ignorant dipstick.

[Dinsdale]

At least try Wiki once in a while

Like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dudley for example?

Christen Guilford Dudley
Born February 22, 1965 (1965-02-22) (age 45)
Stamford, Connecticut, USA

Let me know when you think this is going well for you.

[Diego in Seattle]

Let me know when you think this is going well for you.

What high school did he attend (all 4 years), and where is it located?

[LTS TRN 2]

Are you guys totally lost? Try dealing with Byrd's courage in standing up to the co-opted bullshit that currently pumps your lobes, i.e., the GOP :wink:

[Terry in Crapchester]

The KKK chapter of his life is totally irrelevant.

That he was a member of an organization that advocated the the lynching of blacks means nothing. Now, if he had done something as depraved as praising a dying Strom Thurmond at his birthday party or something, we'd have been dealing with a whole different situation.

Of course, it was a little bit more than that. Lott was asserting that the country would have been better off had it elected Thurmond on his segregationist platform.