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I voted for Obama. Lord, what have I done. Forgive me.

Charlton Heston just did a 180 in his grave.

Bobby42 wrote:I voted for Obama.

Of course you did. He's black...just like you. That makes you fucking moron and yet another mistake waiting to happen.

Toddowen wrote:I'm noticing a lot of folks straying from the Obama camp lately. One of his most hardcore supporters at work has finally removed his bumper sticker. It could be that he's just sick of being scowled at while driving, but I don't think this is the case with him. Something has struck a nerve.

I swear...Obama is deliberatly trying to be disliked. What the fuck is up with that?

I hear this is the bomb...best investment opportunity in the last 2 years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=201pgTaEseQ

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Toddowen wrote:It could be that he's just sick of being scowled at while driving, but I don't think this is the case with him.

Scowled at ??? Bwwaaahaaaa....

This is more like it....

Didn't you get the lib talking points memo, Bobby?

When all else fails, blame Bush.

Bobby42 wrote:I voted for Obama. Lord, what have I done. Forgive me.

You probably thought, 'Finally heres the man that has the right amount of charisma, leadership, compasion and humility to pull the country together in a big happy face sort of way'.???

Right, left, who gives a fuck. Toe the line and keep to the agenda dumbazzes.

Bobby42 wrote:I voted for Obama. Lord, what have I done. Forgive me.

At least you have the sack to admit it. Gutless W supporters will take that shit to their grave.

KC Scott wrote: I should be in charge.

Not so fast, Scott

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KC Scott wrote:

Trampis wrote:

Bobby42 wrote:I voted for Obama. Lord, what have I done. Forgive me.

You probably thought, 'Finally heres the man that has the right amount of charisma, leadership, compasion and humility to pull the country together in a big happy face sort of way'.???

Yep - a lot of my optimism about Obama has been replaced by the reality that we're in just as big a clusterfuck as we were when that last dumbfuck was in office

Quite a bit worse actually. At least Chimpy, fuckwit though he was, did not do everything in his power to destroy private sector employment.

mvscal wrote:Quite a bit worse actually. At least Chimpy, fuckwit though he was, did not do everything in his power to destroy private sector employment.

Where the fuck do you make this shit up?

Scott wrote:Yep - a lot of my optimism about Obama has been replaced by the reality that we're in just as big a clusterfuck as we were when that last dumbfuck was in office

We're in much worse shape.

He's piled massive debt on top of an already unmanageable debt situation and has done nothing but assure that MUCH MORE debt and entitlements will be piled on going into the future.

Taking on such debt is supposedly a recipe for economic recovery, but only a dumbfuck buys into such idiocy.

We've gone much deeper into the tank and drastically fucked up the economy in the process.


Change that fucks us up the @ss.

Not really, all those things come with a credit card and you're paying for it. Colour televisions, cell phones, computers with internet access are all wonderful, but they don't have much to do with your quality of life, do they? As opposed to a roof over your head, access to a doctor, literacy - etc

Making all these things are marvelous, but they don't involve human labour, it's done on an assembly line. No-one is involved in production, the amount of people taking part is limited, therefore a fat pile of money is going to a limited group. I won't argue that the speed of innovation is the property of capital, but surely there are other considerations.

KC Scott wrote:I was reading on one of the financial blogs that SP500 companies are sitting on 850 Billion in cash - and doing nothing with it. Not growing, investing, hiring, etc.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure if you offered them a tax break to put that money to work, they probably would.

I should be in charge.

Better yet, tax them double unless they get off their asses and use the money.

Just wondering...where did said corporations get the impression that they'd be able to do business in this country in 2010 without being taxed?

Mgo wrote:At least you have the sack to admit it. Gutless W supporters will take that shit to their grave.

Bush was at 80% approval after 9/11 and went down to under 30% as he left office.

A WHOLE lot of conservatives came to admit that Bush lost them.


Barry is currently at about 44% approval, which is a frightening insight into how utterly IGNORANT and CLUELESS many Americans are.

If destruction of the republic is what you seek from the prez, then yeah, you approve.

If you approve of the job Barry is doing because you think it is GOOD for the country, you are a dipshit, plain and simple.


Rack Bobby for coming correct.

poptart wrote:

Mgo wrote:At least you have the sack to admit it. Gutless W supporters will take that shit to their grave.

Bush was at 80% approval after 9/11 and went down to under 30% as he left office.

A WHOLE lot of conservatives came to admit that Bush lost them.


Barry is currently at about 44% approval, which is a frightening insight into how utterly IGNORANT and CLUELESS many Americans are.

A few points here:

1. You're talking about Bush losing that approval rating over 7 1/2 years, vs. 1 1/2 years for Obama.

2. At the 80% mark, Bush's approval rating wasn't coming entirely from conservatives.

3. Even when Bush left office, his approval rating was still hovering at around 65-70% among registered Republicans. Perhaps a little low compared to the approval ratings Republican Presidents typically get among registered Republicans, but still much higher than the nation as a whole. Meanwhile, his approval rating among registered Democrats was in single digits (sidenote: you'd probably have a tough time getting 90+% of registered Democrats to agree on the time of day), and in the low 20's among registered independents. That's what drove his overall approval rating down so drastically.

poptart wrote:If destruction of the republic is what you seek from the prez, then yeah, you approve.

Shut the fuck up already you hysterical, hand-wringing dipshit.

poptart wrote:Bush was at 80% approval after 9/11 and went down to under 30% as he left office.

Then I guess Osama better start plotting some more. It appears the way to high approval ratings is to let a terrorist attack happen.

88 wrote:I'm a feudalist at the top of the hill.

Yeah, we got that.

BSmack wrote: Where the fuck do you make this shit up?

I don't make it up. Congress and your stupid niggger Pres__ent do.

88 wrote:I think an authority (e.g., government) ought only get involved to stop those who would prevent an individual from being able to trade his labor for a fair market wage.

"Authority" has done nothing other than create the conditions which have resulted in the offshoring of millions of manufacturing and services sector jobs all in the name of "free trade and fair markets."

It's time to bring those jobs home by any means...fair or foul.

BSmack wrote:

KC Scott wrote:I was reading on one of the financial blogs that SP500 companies are sitting on 850 Billion in cash - and doing nothing with it. Not growing, investing, hiring, etc.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure if you offered them a tax break to put that money to work, they probably would.

I should be in charge.

Better yet, tax them double unless they get off their asses and use the money.

Now let's look at the libtard logic at work here.....

Companies are sitting on their cash because they are uncertain as to what kind of new taxes, fees, regulations,government interference is coming down next...

So one side postulates that a reduction in taxes and the size of government will result in those companies investing in infrastructure, employment, R & D will have a positive benefit..

The other side says, look mother fucka's....spend that cash NOW or we are going to double your taxes on it....that's a real incentive to spend, since the cocksuckers will tax you more on it anyway....

Then you wonder why business is leaving this country so fast and with it the cash that could help turn the economy around...

Just a fucking brilliant idea there...get the White House and Obongo on the line.. because the latest great idea from the libtard think tanks are arriving..

BSmack wrote:

KC Scott wrote:I was reading on one of the financial blogs that SP500 companies are sitting on 850 Billion in cash - and doing nothing with it. Not growing, investing, hiring, etc.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure if you offered them a tax break to put that money to work, they probably would.

I should be in charge.

Better yet, tax them double unless they get off their asses and use the money.

Yeah!! That'll put people back to work!

Dumbfuck...

BSmack wrote:

poptart wrote:Bush was at 80% approval after 9/11 and went down to under 30% as he left office.

Then I guess Osama better start plotting some more. It appears the way to high approval ratings is to let a terrorist attack happen.

And what would Obamas' response to a similar attack be?

Most likely, he'd apologize to the attackers for the sins of American arrogance that made them do it. Then allow them to build a mulitcultural diversity center on the site in memorial.

War Wagon wrote:

BSmack wrote:

poptart wrote:Bush was at 80% approval after 9/11 and went down to under 30% as he left office.

Then I guess Osama better start plotting some more. It appears the way to high approval ratings is to let a terrorist attack happen.

And what would Obamas' response to a similar attack be?

Most likely, he'd apologize to the attackers for the sins of American arrogance that made them do it. Then allow them to build a mulitcultural diversity center on the site in memorial.

Nice melt.

88 wrote: The cool thing is that I walked from the damn near the bottom to the place you refer to as the top under my own power.

You are such a lying sack of shit.

KC Scott wrote:

mvscal wrote:

88 wrote:I think an authority (e.g., government) ought only get involved to stop those who would prevent an individual from being able to trade his labor for a fair market wage.

"Authority" has done nothing other than create the conditions which have resulted in the offshoring of millions of manufacturing and services sector jobs all in the name of "free trade and fair markets."

It's time to bring those jobs home by any means...fair or foul.

KC Scott wrote: Actually there are jobs being brought back now from India and even India predicts more are coming back:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/ ... geNumber=1

And it looks like the current legislation is trying to help stem the tide of Hajis entering the country (along with the Messicans ) in anticipation of the next major shift in information resources:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... 6Dx23m71cg

Talk is cheap. I believe it when I see some actual results.

mvscal wrote: It's time to bring those jobs home by any means...fair or foul.

Stick to playing G.I. Joes in the sandbox, little boy.
Market economics ain't your forte.

88 wrote: The jobs would come streaming back. Of course, the people wouldn't have jack shit. Here or there.

[...] But that causes prices to skyrocket in the US, and results in retaliatory tarriffs on our exports. This again, leaves most people fucked over.

So basically,you're advocating a sort of national, economic suicide. That's what it winds up as being if left up to the market. Harvey, or rather Marx - took Ricardo's theory of comparative advantage and blew it out of the water. It was bending over for the financiers that destroyed manufacturing in the west and once a service economy is outsourced, there's nothing left.
Purchasing power would have collapsed and world demand for all those outsourced products has been decimated since populations in nations participating in outsourcing don't earn anywhere near what American consumers who are now jobless earned. There's no force that could adjust this back to normal because no company is going to be willing to start hiring Americans back to get demand started again.

People could get away with it when companies were moving from state to state - taking advantage of tax breaks, etc - but now that trade is truly global, a population can't just migrate from country to country. Though they do try.

You seem to have taken your own personal rags to riches story (or whatever it is) and superimposed it and whatever morality it contains on the workings of the international economy :?

Screw_Michigan wrote:

poptart wrote:If destruction of the republic is what you seek from the prez, then yeah, you approve.

Shut the fuck up already you hysterical, hand-wringing dipshit.

You posting a very lame drive-by such as that is evidence that you don't have the first clue about our republic, the significance of the revoultionary war, or tyranny.

Every action a president and/or congress takes does one of two things:

1. strengthens the republic
2. weakens the republic

To date, nearly everything Barry has done has served to weaken the republic.


If you'd like to cite the actions he has taken that have strengthened the republic, have at it.


Pass me a Snickers.

I love how some dipshit who lives thousands of miles away in some foreign land is telling me how I don't have a clue about "our" republic. I tolerate and respect many of your takes, even if I don't agree with them, because I think you are of sound mind and body, but the US isn't going to collapse because we're being run by a liberal you despise, any more than it would when it was run by a GOP prez whose dick you were sucking at every opportunity. Your Chicken Little theatrics are trite, old, repetitive and disgusting. Get a fucking grip, for Christ's sake.

Why do you hate America, 'tart?

Dude, I came to hate Bush, the conservative fraud.

Since you wanted to do a drive-by on me for the take I gave, I asked you cite the actions Barry has taken to strengthen the republic.

You posted nothing.

Noted.

poptart wrote:Dude, I came to hate Bush, the conservative fraud.

Right, after the two times you voted for him? Get fucked.

Screw_Michigan wrote:

poptart wrote:Dude, I came to hate Bush, the conservative fraud.

Right, after the two times you voted for him? Get fucked.

considering the alternatives, it's understanding that you'd vote or someone like him.

until we go to run-off elections, picking the lesser of two evils will continue to be a viable option. unfortunately the republicrats know this and won't change it.

yes you did... props for coming clean.

Screw_Michigan wrote:

poptart wrote:Dude, I came to hate Bush, the conservative fraud.

Right, after the two times you voted for him? Get fucked.

Fuck you both, I'd vote for him again.

88 wrote: True, in the 1950's when manufacturing was going great guns in the now rust belt cities that kind of person could have gotten a job on the assembly line making very good wages with that skill set. But those days are over.

You've just hit the nail on the head there - but you don't follow your own advice. Whenever you talk about the economy, it boils down to 'get up in the morning, work hard, problem solved'. I think there's more to it than that. Or else it's 'state rights, the constitution, blah blah'.

It's like you want to refer to some 19th century model that just doesn't apply today and it's not just you, it the 'libtards' looking towards Keynes. Those situations can't be replicated, they were just right for that place and that time - not now.
The conditions prevailing in America in the 19th century were not typical for everyone and America's political development is therefore unique and non-repeatable. Americans often assume that the development of capitalism in their own nation is the 'norm' for all capitalist development, whereas in fact it is an anomaly, a bizarre freak of nature. You can't romanticise it or go back.

War Wagon wrote:

BSmack wrote:

poptart wrote:Bush was at 80% approval after 9/11 and went down to under 30% as he left office.

Then I guess Osama better start plotting some more. It appears the way to high approval ratings is to let a terrorist attack happen.

And what would Obamas' response to a similar attack be?

Most likely, he'd apologize to the attackers for the sins of American arrogance that made them do it. Then allow them to build a mulitcultural diversity center on the site in memorial.

Or maybe he'd attack a nation that had nothing to do with it, spending countless dollars and wasting thousands of lives in the process.

Oh, wait a minute -- Bush did that, didn't he?