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North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:50 pm
by SoCalTrjn
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... folo101910
Former University of North Carolina assistant coach John Blake played a role in the signing of at least two clients of NFL agent Gary Wichard, according to two players who experienced the relationship firsthand.

Two former Wichard clients – linebacker Brian Bosworth and tight end Stephen Alexander – told Yahoo! Sports that Blake was the conduit for their relationship with the prominent agent. Blake coached both players during his tenure at the University of Oklahoma. Wichard is currently under investigation by the NCAA, NFL Players Association and North Carolina Secretary of State for potential improper agent conduct. A third former Oklahoma player, defensive end Stirling Luckey, told Yahoo! Sports that he had knowledge of Blake’s endorsement of Wichard to elite Sooners players.

John Blake [Related: NFL agent admits to giving college players money]

Blake’s lawyers have repeatedly denied that the former Tar Heels coach acted as a recruiter for Wichard, and characterized recent financial transactions between the coach and agent as loans and gifts. Blake resigned from his coaching position at North Carolina on Sept. 5, less than a month after a Yahoo! Sports report revealed his former position as vice president of football operations for Wichard’s agency, Pro Tect Management.

Since Blake began coaching in 1985, Wichard has signed at least 13 players whose college careers have overlapped with Blake’s tenure on college staffs. If the NCAA determines that Blake was acting as a “runner” to deliver players to Wichard, the coach could be subject to bylaw 10.1, which determines unethical conduct of staff members. That bylaw bars the “receipt of benefits by an institutional staff member for facilitating or arranging a meeting between a student-athlete and an agent, financial advisor, or a representative of an agent or financial advisor.”

Blake’s lawyers have said the previous business relationship and recent financial transactions between the two men isn’t proof the coach has steered players toward Wichard. Wichard’s lawyer, Howard Silber, did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

“The fact of the matter is John has testified [to the North Carolina Secretary of State] that he has not functioned in a manner that has, in his mind, has attempted to funnel, push, direct, any athlete toward Gary Wichard,” said William H. Beaver II, Blake’s attorney. “He has testified to that, or provided statements to the NCAA in that manner, in those words. … To be more specific, John has provided statements that he has never attempted to funnel, coerce, push – toward Mr. Wichard.”

That statement was contradicted by Bosworth, who said Blake played a prominent role in his decision to sign with Wichard when he left Oklahoma for the NFL in 1987. Bosworth is currently suing Wichard, alleging the agent negligently encouraged him to sign with a business manager who had previously engaged in “fraudulent activity.” The suit alleges the manager’s malfeasance cost Bosworth more than $2 million.

Bosworth initially declined comment on Blake in August, calling the coach “a friend” and stating he didn’t want to damage Blake’s standing at North Carolina. But he reconsidered after Blake stepped down in September.

Bosworth said he became aware of Blake’s relationship with Wichard shortly after rising to national prominence as a star sophomore for Oklahoma in 1985. It was during that time that Bosworth said he formed a friendship with Blake, who had become an assistant on the Sooners’ staff shortly after his own college career ended.

Bosworth said Blake’s youth and personality made him one of the most trusted men on Oklahoma’s staff, often seen as a liaison who could bring player issues to the attention of then-head coach Barry Switzer. And it was in the spring of 1986, prior to Bosworth’s junior season, that Blake allegedly broached the idea of a meeting with Wichard.

“John said to me, ‘Hey, I’ve set a meeting up with a guy who I really think you need to know, because he’s going to change your world, ’ ” Bosworth said. “The only way Gary Wichard got to me was through John Blake. John made it clear that Gary was the only guy I needed to be with. Every meeting that I had with Gary was set up by John. John would even pick me up and take me there, whether it was at a hotel or whatever.

“You have to understand, John was the eyes inside the locker room. He was the fisherman and Gary was the cook. You’ve got to have somebody out there who is going to get the bounty, and Gary’s the one who then goes and sells the bounty. I don’t understand why they would be trying to skirt the truth on that. That is what it was. It was so blatant. … And I know I wasn’t the only player who saw it.

“As time went on, as I realized Gary got Keith [Jackson] out of Oklahoma, then he got Cedric [Jones], and it was like, ‘OK, something’s going on.’ Then Gary got Stephen [Alexander] and then he’s got Aubrey Beavers. I was thinking, ‘OK, there’s a gravy train here, and I hope John isn’t involved in it.’ “

Jackson, Jones and Beavers couldn’t be reached for comment. However, Alexander said it was Blake who set up his initial meeting with Wichard. But Alexander also said he recently signed an affidavit for Blake’s attorneys saying he never felt “forced” toward Wichard. Three other players have also signed similar affidavits – Jackson, former North Carolina defensive end Kentwan Balmer, and former Nebraska running back Brandon Jackson.

“That’s true. [Blake] didn’t force me,” Alexander said. “He introduced me.”

Alexander said he was being pursued by several agents heading into his final season at Oklahoma, including an incident where an agent resorted to knocking on the window of his apartment. It was around this time that Blake, who had ascended to the Sooners’ head coaching position, offered to help Alexander with the process.

“When I went to [Blake], he said that he had a very reputable guy that had represented a lot of OU guys in the past – obviously Boz, Keith Jackson and Cedric Jones,” Alexander said. “John basically said he was a very reputable guy, and whenever I was ready to make a decision or ready to try and find an agent to let him know. It wasn’t like I showed up one day and he had an agent there. But yeah, he did introduce us.”

Alexander said Blake set up a meeting between Wichard, Alexander and Alexander’s parents. Alexander added that while he never felt he was being steered, Wichard was the only agent Blake ever introduced him to.

“It was just Gary,” Alexander said. “I didn’t know if it was right or wrong. But I do know I never accepted money from Gary or John.”

Former Sooners defensive end Stirling Luckey, one of Alexander’s teammates and a player who was recruited to Oklahoma by Blake, said he believed Alexander’s introduction wasn’t uncommon among players considered to be potential high draft picks.

“I don’t want to sound like I’m trying to put John Blake down, but yeah, he did that stuff,” Luckey said. “Stephen Alexander came out after I was already gone [from Oklahoma], but I knew [coach] Blake was the one who hooked him up with that agent. And Cedric Jones, that was my roommate. Guys aren’t stupid. We know what went on.

“If someone was a high-profile guy, at some point John was going to talk to him about [Gary Wichard].”
Death sentence coming for UNC... More NCAA schools being outed (with more sinister circumstances than USC's)... High visibility with the press. I dont know what is more amusing - the NCAA who thought USC was the issue or the idiot fans around the country calling USC the dirtiest program ever because of one player and his step father.

UNC's investigation has lead to the outing of Alabama, Florida, UGA, now Oklahoma.... who's next? It's only a matter of time.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:44 am
by TheJON
idiot fans around the country calling USC the dirtiest program ever because of one player and his step father.
Not to be a dick, but if you think Reggie Bush was the only player at USC to receive benefits you would be doing society a favor by committing suicide and raising our average IQ.

Please tell me you're not dumb enough to think USC is clean outside of the Reggie Bush incident?????

That's like saying Sammy Sosa only corked his bat that one time. God you're dumb.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:51 am
by OUMO
Blake has not coached at OU since before you got pubes, we fired him.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:00 am
by War Wagon
nobody cares

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:14 am
by SoCalTrjn
Shouldn't the NCAA investigate all claims no matter how old? The Bush ruling was 5 years after the fact. I don't care if guys have retired from the NFL, if they admit to wrong doing and the school knew about it, "Lack of Institional Control" Which I believe now is established to be a reduction of 30 scholorships and a 2 year bowl ban. I'm sure the NCAA has a mountain of stuff on the UO in the 80's and on the Miami bad boy teams of the 90's. Why shouldn't they pay the price now, so the NCAA can make an example? Just nuke'm all.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:29 am
by Bizzarofelice
War Wagon wrote:nobody cares

1984 cares.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:49 am
by War Wagon
from the standpoint of Oct 23, 2010

nobody cares.

If OU has cheated, I don't care. If OU continues to cheat and gets away with it, then everybody else had better learn how to cheat better.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:53 am
by Bizzarofelice
tigers need to learn how to east st louis cheat. lots of future juco kids being funnelled to Illinois and now arkansas. ronnie wingo went to arkansas thinking he'd be the man but now we don't even get wheel passes for petrino.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:09 am
by M Club
SoCalTrjn wrote:Shouldn't the NCAA investigate all claims no matter how old? The Bush ruling was 5 years after the fact.
the statute of limitations regarding what the ncaa can begin investigating is either four or five years. i'm not surprised you don't know this considering every other clueless thing you've said about the "official report" that you obviously haven't read.

otherwise, really chaps your ass, eh. hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:36 am
by Mikey
Heard some recent rumors that Roman Gabriel was talking to an agent while at NC State. NCAA better start looking into that too.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:55 am
by OUMO
War Wagon wrote:from the standpoint of Oct 23, 2010

nobody cares.

If OU has cheated, I don't care. If OU continues to cheat and gets away with it, then everybody else had better learn how to cheat better.
A lesson Kelvin Sampson did not learn.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:00 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
I don't recall anyone calling USC the dirtiest program ever, not here anyway.

I don't condone these violations in the least, but I do think that the NCAA ought to have some sort of a statute of limitations as to rule violations, at least where the violations are not ongoing at a particular program. When was the last time Blake was involved with OU's program? 1998?

Btw, not a fan of OU, Alabama, Florida or UGa, so no axe to grind or agenda to advance here.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:14 pm
by M Club
Terry in Crapchester wrote:...but I do think that the NCAA ought to have some sort of a statute of limitations as to rule violations...
uh, they do. glad i cleared that up a good four posts up.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:15 pm
by indyfrisco
M Club wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:Shouldn't the NCAA investigate all claims no matter how old? The Bush ruling was 5 years after the fact.
the statute of limitations regarding what the ncaa can begin investigating is either four or five years. i'm not surprised you don't know this considering every other clueless thing you've said about the "official report" that you obviously haven't read.

otherwise, really chaps your ass, eh. hahahahahahahahahahaha.
No shit. SacCalTroll is probably wondering why the NCAA still isn't beating down the door of UCLA for all the cheating they did under Wooden.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:29 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
SoCalTrjn wrote:Shouldn't the NCAA investigate all claims no matter how old?
Uhhh, no, for pretty much the same reason that you shouldn't be charged with a DWI because you drove drunk 10 years ago and it's only now coming to light.
MClub wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:...but I do think that the NCAA ought to have some sort of a statute of limitations as to rule violations...
uh, they do. glad i cleared that up a good four posts up.
:oops: That's what happens, I guess, when you read a Schmick post and respond to it immediately, without reading other responses first.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:09 pm
by Killian
IndyFrisco wrote:No shit. SacCalTroll is probably wondering why the NCAA still isn't beating down the door of UCLA for all the cheating they did under Wooden.
How dare you!

Sin,
Seer

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:11 pm
by Dinsdale
I hear there were agents having some shady dealings with Mel Renfro...

The NCAA is all over it.

I hear there's some skeletons in Knute Rockne's closet -- ND is fucked.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:34 pm
by SoCalTrjn
When Blake was fired in 1998 and OU knew he was paying players to sign with agents, did OU self report?

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:15 pm
by Killian
SoCalTrjn wrote:When Blake was fired in 1998 and OU knew he was paying players to sign with agents, did OU self report?
Were there stories written about this in 2000 and did the NCAA come around in 2002? If the answer is yes to both of those, you have something very similar to USC. If not, grow up and take your medicine like a man and stop building these stupid straw men.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:33 pm
by The Seer
Killian wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:No shit. SacCalTroll is probably wondering why the NCAA still isn't beating down the door of UCLA for all the cheating they did under Wooden.
How dare you!

Sin,
Seer


Swallowing all that Bob Knight semen must create a nasty green shade of envy....All you havenots have had your chance to discredit his accomplishments....As soon as they start asking to remove the 12 Banners in Pauley, y'all will remain distant seconds and worse to the standard bearer.....

Flail away.

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:01 pm
by Killian
Where did you get that I was an Indiana fan?

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:25 pm
by The Seer
Just kind of lumped you in with Shine & Indy....ND is pretty close, verdad?

Re: North Carolina investigation leading back to Oklahoma?

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:55 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
The Seer wrote:Just kind of lumped you in with Shine & Indy....ND is pretty close, verdad?
In the greater scheme of things, perhaps.

Per mapquest, ND and IU are about 200 miles away from each other. Among BTPCF campuses, Northwestern, Purdue, Michigan State, Michigan, and even Illinois (very slightly) are closer to ND than IU is.