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I told every swingin' dick that TCU would be ranked ahead of Boise if Baylor won this weekend. It turns out I was right.

No way I see OU as being 4 spots better than Mizzou, but oh well. If you're not in the top 5, it doesn't really matter anyway. It's like a flavor of the week club for any team with a loss right now, fighting over scraps.

Papa Willie wrote:
Utah/TCU going to be VERY interesting this coming weekend.

the winner will no doubt jump boise, and if they remain undefeated will get the automatic non-bcs qualification into the rose bowl...if boise wins out, they'll be relegated to playing some piece of shit team from the big east in the fiesta bowl and you naysaying ass hats will no doubt be screaming "who've they played"

It wouldn't surprise me if the winner of that game jumped Oregon and Auburn too, at least for a week.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if the winner of that game jumped Oregon and Auburn too, at least for a week.

TCU beat a banged up unranked Air Force team that was missing their #2 running back....personally, I didn't see it as being worthy to jump them over BSU (i've got my blue colored glasses on right now)

Felix wrote:

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if the winner of that game jumped Oregon and Auburn too, at least for a week.

TCU beat a banged up unranked Air Force team that was missing their #2 running back....personally, I didn't see it as being worthy to jump them over BSU (i've got my blue colored glasses on right now)

I saw that Boise dropped from #6 to #11 in the Sagarin rankings and this is what killed their BCS ranking.

It's going to be nearly impossible for them to make it to the title game, unfortunately. I can't see how it is possible barring an unforeseen collapse of epic proportions by numerous teams.

Next week they will still be ranked 4. The winner of the Utah-TCU game will be ahead of them.

Boise needs Auburn, TCU, and Alabama to ALL lose at some point from now until the end of the season. Even then, they still might need Oklahoma and Nebraska to lose as well. That's all assuming Oregon goes unbeaten. Of course, if Oregon loses, they can still afford 1 of those teams to NOT lose.

Their computer rankings will do nothing but drop the rest of the way. They're basically in a spot where it's at best a 1% chance of getting their shot to play for a title. I just don't see how it could happen.

TheJON wrote:I saw that Boise dropped from #6 to #11 in the Sagarin rankings and this is what killed their BCS ranking.

I got to be honest with you, I don't get why the computers hold so much sway in the rankings....BSU is ranked 2 in the AP and 3rd in the USA today polls....but I knew strength of schedule was going to hurt them....they've got two decent games left, Hawaii this week and Nevada on Nov. 26th...I don't see those games doing much for their computer rankings...

It's going to be nearly impossible for them to make it to the title game, unfortunately. I can't see how it is possible barring an unforeseen collapse of epic proportions by numerous teams.

I've already said they wouldn't make it, but really what I want is for them to play a quality bowl opponent as opposed to a piece of shit big east team that just happens to be in an automatic qualifying conference....that would be a fucking travesty

Papa Willie wrote:Look for Auburn to maybe even go down to #3 after next weekend (UT Chatt - yay).

Considering that they have TCU, Boise and Utah directly behind them, I don't think they have much to worry about. I suppose the TCU-Utah winner could move into #2, but I doubt that'll happen.

Felix wrote:if boise wins out, they'll be relegated to playing some piece of shit team from the big east in the fiesta bowl and you naysaying ass hats will no doubt be screaming "who've they played"

That can't happen unless either Nebraska or Oklahoma jumps a whole buncha teams. The Big XII champion gets an automatic Fiesta Bowl bid if they're not playing in the BCS championship game. Assuming Auburn finishes in the Top 2, I suspect the Sugar Bowl will take a team from the Meatgrinder, so no possibility of Boise playing the Big East champion in the BCS.

I got to be honest with you, I don't get why the computers hold so much sway in the rankings....BSU is ranked 2 in the AP and 3rd in the USA today polls....

The AP poll isn't part of the BCS formula.

Sin,
2005

Sudden Sam wrote:
Dammit! I said I was gonna refrain from any Boise comments the rest of the way.

why are you (and a growing number of power conference honks) so frightened of BSU?
the vitriol directed at them this year is off the fucking hook...your comments are representative of a large group of people that are seemingly terrified of what boise state has accomplished and I just don't get it....why so afraid?

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote: The AP poll isn't part of the BCS formula.

Sin,
2005

actually I meant the coaches poll, which has them 3rd as does the harris poll...
but really is a win over UNLV really significant enough to vault TCU over boise state?
I know, it was Baylors win over a sorry ass Texas team...

Jsc810 wrote:Complete joke that Boise is ranked that high. But perhaps they will get to play another team who will be disappointed to be stuck in a bowl game with them, and Boise will win again, whoo hooo.

funny, it's always that power conference teams had lost interest rather than anything the smaller school did....
utah pummeled alabama, because alabama had lost interest
boise state beat oklahoma because oklahoma had lost interest
it's always the same thing.....you simply can't accept the fact that teams from smaller conferences can simply play with power conference schools

so last year, when boise state kicked the fucking shit out of Oregon on opening day, do you suppose it was because Oregon had already lost interest?

Felix wrote:so last year, when boise state kicked the fucking shit out of Oregon on opening day, do you suppose it was because Oregon had already lost interest?

Clearly, Oregon was looking ahead to the mighty Boilermakers of Purdue that day. I've taken my runs at Boise St but the "so-and-so can't get up to play BSU" is one helluva lame argument. Almost as bad as transitive property talk. I remember some folks in here were already setting up that very excuse for Florida, had they lost to Cincinnati. Of course UF went on to trounce them, so I guess they suddenly got interested.

Felix wrote:so last year, when boise state kicked the fucking shit out of Oregon on opening day, do you suppose it was because Oregon had already lost interest?

11 point is "kicking the shit" out of a team...

Or is that just BSU fan being BSU fan?

No, it wasn't because Oregon "lost interest" -- it was because they had a QB whose effort was very inconsistent through his Oregon career...

Problem solved, BTW.


What's sad is that BSU has done wonderful things with a small-time program. They'd be getting WAY more love and support around the country if their fans would keep their mouths shut. THEY'RE what's turning the CFB world against them.

BSU is making a huge effort to "play someone." Until you do, just sit back at the kiddie table and bide your time... quietly. And we'll see how they do when they play TCU, BYU, AF, and some much better conference teams next year. Then when Fresno and Nevada hop on board, that starts to look like a real conference.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: Clearly, Oregon was looking ahead to the mighty Boilermakers of Purdue that day. I've taken my runs at Boise St but the "so-and-so can't get up to play BSU" is one helluva lame argument.

yeah pretty much....and given the fact that the previous year Boise had beaten Oregon at Autzen, it's kind of hard to fathom that Oregon was overlooking them....for months prior to the game LaGarrtte Blount had been saying how they were going to kick boise's ass, so the whole "they weren't interested" or "they were overlooking them" argument goes out the window.....

Dinsdale wrote: 11 point is "kicking the shit" out of a team...

you know as well as I do that score isn't always indicative of how a team performed....Boise absolutely put the wood to oregon and you know it.....

What's sad is that BSU has done wonderful things with a small-time program. They'd be getting WAY more love and support around the country if their fans would keep their mouths shut. THEY'RE what's turning the CFB world against them.

the fans have nothing to do with it....as a Boise State fan, I'm not demanding respect for the program, but at the same time I think dismissing them using useless analogies like "they wouldn't have a winning record if they were playing in the ________(insert conference)" is pretty pathetic

I think TCU got the bump due to fist fucking Baylor earlier in the year...

this is exactly why we will never get a playoff...we keep talking about it...if the media, fans would just shut up about BCS controversy perhaps then they would get it...or hell let's all not go to the BCS games (not going to happen)...so we are stuck with it...

honestly I am in favor of all computer stuff...make ONE model weight everything accordingly and let some firm publish the results, etc...then you don't have voters voting with their hearts or whatever or some 4th rate secretary voting because so and so's colors are cute...

Felix...saw where if everything breaks right it could be tOSU v BSU in the Rose...wow

Felix...saw where if everything breaks right it could be tOSU Wisconsin/Iowa/Michigan State v BSU in the Rose...wow

tOSU will be going down for the count on November 20 and the Rose Bowl will not be in your January plans. If you've made motel reservations in Pasadena, cancel them.

buckeye_in_sc wrote:Felix...saw where if everything breaks right it could be tOSU v BSU in the Rose...wow

it's my understanding the the top ranked non-automatic qualifier goes to the Rose if the Pac 10 champ goes to the MNC...as it stands right now, it would be TCU to the Rose Bowl probably against Ohio State (which I think would be a great game)

I think the Fiesta second "at-large" pick, and that choice would go against the Big 12 representative (nebraska, oklahoma?)....

Sugar Bowl has the third "at large" pick, which would go against an SEC representative

how it will ultimately shake out is anybodys guess.....this shit is way complicated