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One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:27 am
by Dinsdale
All you needto know about those "in the know" -- NASA (a government bureau which desperately needs to justify their budget in these lean times, since space travel is on the back burner) figures on temperature data.
The graph shows NASA's historical temperature data in red, and their "recalibrated data" after making some "adjustments" to observed data in 2007 in black.
Fucking classic. How dumb and gullible does a person have to be to buy into this unadulterated cash-grab at this point?
Sure, at first, with that many prominent scientists on board, it seemed irresponsible to not at least put some thought and concern into it. But these clowns have gone on to make the Three Stooges look like a gang of serious actors by comparison. I guess they didn't figure that not only would people review their data and realize it had been falsified, but that people would also follow the money... straight back to Maurice Strong, who cooked up this brilliant scam to start with.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:28 am
by missjo
Global warming my shiny white ass
it's the middle of summer here & it's been cold & wet here for most of it
When the hell did I move to the UK
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Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:08 pm
by Wolfman
It is currently 40ºF here according to my...... it was 33ºF about two hours ago. Proof that it is warming. OK, that is an example of weather. The sun has a similar influence on climate too. So I've heard.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:36 pm
by smackaholic
Been consistently below average temp for the entire month of december. lakes and ponds are froze solid and i've actually seen kids playing hockey on them, like we used to in the seventies which were pretty chilly.
You do remember the 70s, right? A few cold years in a row and we were headed into the next ice age.
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Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:47 pm
by LTS TRN 2
'Scuse me, is this the Rusp Limpdick lounge? Where tired stooges dutifully regurgitate the blathering gaseous hog's sour bile?
Whenever you decide you might really feel that denying Climate Change--including Global Warming--just remember that ALL of the reputable science community acknowledges the fact that it's a very real problem which needs to be addressed globally.
And..remember that ALL of the deniers are total Christer cultists. And that certainly includes ALL of the GOP/Tea Bagger morons opposing any legislation, etc.
The so-called "scientific" experts who on record as denying Climate Change are ALL on corporate payrolls to deliver those findings.
Okay? That's a plain fact. So...what the fuck is wrong with you?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:28 pm
by Dinsdale
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Whenever you decide you might really feel that denying Climate Change--including Global Warming
I forgot the newest mantra -- that "global warming" causes "global cooling" --
almost well=played, since the global temp has been in a complete free-fall for the last 13 years or so.
just remember that ALL of the reputable science community acknowledges the fact that it's a very real problem which needs to be addressed globally.
Another shameful tactic of the Great Scammers -- anyone who disagrees is not "reputable" -- nevermind that the most knowledgeable climate scientist who's ever lived thinks it's a bunch of political hogwash.
And sorry -- "reputable" scientists stick to science -- you know, where someone proposes a new hypothesis, and gathers data to support it, and then submits it for peer-review.
A "disreputable" "scientist" alters data to support their "hypothesis," destroys data rather than sharing it, and immediately begins a smear campaign against anyone who disagrees with them.
And..remember that ALL of the deniers are total Christer cultists.
Patently false blanket statement that's so easily disproven, it's not worthy of discussion.
The so-called "scientific" experts who on record as denying Climate Change are ALL on corporate payrolls to deliver those findings.
Another complete fabrication that's so laughably false, it deserves a punchline.
What a beautiful scam they cooked up though -- somehow the wealthiest of the wealthy found a way to divert money from the lower and middle classes to enrich the elite, and they, most surprisingly, got the
lefties to go along with it -- "ponderous" doesn't even begin to do it justice.
You realize the "top" scientists at the IPCC are
psychologists," right? You DID know that, right... not meteorologists, but psychologists. Now what possible reason would an organization (that sucks billions of "free money") want its top people to be experts at psychology, rather than atmospheric science?
Things that make any person with a brain go HMMMMMMM...
It's all there for anyone to see -- NASA (who put a man on the moon in 1969, but couldn't tell you what the local temperature was on 7/20/1969) published one set of data, then when it didn't meet a
political agenda, they had the gall to unring the bell and "adjust" observed data.
But the newest one gets even better -- "they're" claiming that while the rest of the Northern Hemisphere is dramatically below what are considered normal/average temps, they claim that parts of the Arctic and various locations are having "unprecedented" high temps for the season -- and the one thing all of tese "unprecedented warm" places have in common that they're trumpeting -- not one of them has a weather station. Yup, pretty much every place in the Northern Hemisphere (and many in the Southern) are well-below average, but just out of a truly amazing coincidence, places
without weather stations are cooking... just take their word for it.
Hell, even
your biggest clowns clown themselves. Like Lewis Pugh, for example, who a couple of years ago was bringing the "melting sea ice" to everyone's attention by kayaking the Arctic Ocean... except he couldn't make it, due to too much ice. His explanation for the masses of ice blocking his way? OF COURSE! It's because of manmade global warming. What he didn't tell anyone (lying by omission) is that he was replicating a journey that someone made
successfully about 100 years ago, unhindered by sea ice.
How gullible do you have to be to eat this shit up?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:30 pm
by Moving Sale
Dinsdale wrote:Oil is great shit and we should use as much as we can because it is clean and safe and works fucking great not to mention that we here in the USA have all of the oil in the world so it is good for our economy to use as much as we can and resist any effort to find alternative forms of energy.
You are one stupid fuck.
Dear right wing fucktards,
Weather is not climate you stupid silly fucks.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:37 pm
by OCmike
LTS TRN 2 wrote:'Scuse me, is this the Rusp Limpdick lounge? Where tired stooges dutifully regurgitate the blathering gaseous hog's sour bile?
Whenever you decide you might really feel that denying Climate Change--including Global Warming--just remember that ALL of the reputable science community acknowledges the fact that it's a very real problem which needs to be addressed globally.
And..remember that ALL of the deniers are total Christer cultists. And that certainly includes ALL of the GOP/Tea Bagger morons opposing any legislation, etc.
The so-called "scientific" experts who on record as denying Climate Change are ALL on corporate payrolls to deliver those findings.
Okay? That's a plain fact. So...what the fuck is wrong with you?
This issue is the Dems version of the Iraq WMD scandal. How long are you going to continue to support these tools and their idiotic assertions before you realize that you bought into an idea based on data that was manipulated to tell you what you want to hear?
Yes, all "reputable" scientists agree on this topic, because those complicit in this farce destroy the reputation of anyone who dares disagree. It's this century's McCarthyism.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:39 pm
by smackaholic
Moving Sale wrote:Weather is not climate you stupid silly fucks.
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Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:39 pm
by smackaholic
LTS TRN 2 wrote:'Scuse me, is this the Rusp Limpdick lounge? Where tired stooges dutifully regurgitate the blathering gaseous hog's sour bile?
Whenever you decide you might really feel that denying Climate Change--including Global Warming--just remember that ALL of the reputable science community acknowledges the fact that it's a very real problem which needs to be addressed globally.
And..remember that ALL of the deniers are total Christer cultists. And that certainly includes ALL of the GOP/Tea Bagger morons opposing any legislation, etc.
The so-called "scientific" experts who on record as denying Climate Change are ALL on corporate payrolls to deliver those findings.
Okay? That's a plain fact. So...what the fuck is wrong with you?
![Image](http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:q8Sv1DjutQ-I8M:http://newsbusters.org/static/2009/12/Al%20Gore%20Calls%20Sarah%20Palin%20A%20%27Global%20Warming%20Denier%27.jpg&t=1)
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:43 pm
by smackaholic
mods, admins, deciders, whoever is in charge of the smiley department, can we get this added to the list?
pretty please?
:algore seems like it would be a good tag.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:43 pm
by Moving Sale
So you are not even goig to TRY anymore smackaholic? Your white flag has been noted.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:45 pm
by Moving Sale
OCMike wrote:Oil is great shit and we should use as much as we can because it is clean and safe and works fucking great not to mention that we here in the USA have all of the oil in the world so it is good for our economy to use as much as we can and resist any effort to find alternative forms of energy.
When are you going to pull your head out of your ass?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:49 pm
by Mace
Moving Sale wrote:
Dear right wing fucktards,
Weather is not climate you stupid silly fucks.
No, but weather dictates the climate of the region.
cli·mate /ˈklaɪmɪt/ Show Spelled
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–noun
1. the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years.
2. a region or area characterized by a given climate: to move to a warm climate.
3. the prevailing attitudes, standards, or environmental conditions of a group, period, or place: a climate of political unrest.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:53 pm
by Dinsdale
Moving Sale wrote:
You are one stupid fuck.
Dear right wing fucktards,
Weather is not climate you stupid silly fucks.
Nope, sure isn't -- although the IPCC sure thinks it is, when it promotes their agenda.
I would say that a 13+ year nosedive in temperature might be an indication of "climate."
we here in the USA have all of the oil in the world
Why yes, we certainly have much of it. There's more oil in the state of Colorado than the entire Middle East put together, dumbfuck.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:59 pm
by OCmike
Moving Sale wrote:Dinsdale wrote:Oil is great shit and we should use as much as we can because it is clean and safe and works fucking great not to mention that we here in the USA have all of the oil in the world so it is good for our economy to use as much as we can and resist any effort to find alternative forms of energy.
You are one stupid fuck.
Dear right wing fucktards,
Weather is not climate you stupid silly fucks.
No, but the climate has clearly cooled, which is the exact opposite of what your "reputable experts" said would happen. A smart guy like yourself should know that if they're that far off on the foundation of their theory, they should be disregarded as tools, idiots or in it for the money.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:06 pm
by Mace
OCmike wrote: they should be disregarded as tools, idiots or in it for the money.
I think that "all or the above" might be an appropriate answer here.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:13 pm
by Moving Sale
Dinsdale wrote:
I would say that a 13+ year nosedive in temperature might be an indication of "climate."
You are an idiot. The red line is not "historical temperature data" as you lied in your original post. It doesn't show a 13 nosedive in temp. Are you too stupid to read or are you lying on purpose?
Why yes, we certainly have much of it. There's more oil in the state of Colorado than the entire Middle East put together, dumbfuck.
Typical of a dumbfuck like you to completely ignore most of my post and then address a part of it with a bunch of crap that is disingenuous at best. So just how much of our oil comes from Colorado? Go fuck your self you stupid silly fuck.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:17 pm
by Moving Sale
OCmike wrote:
No, but the climate has clearly cooled,
Link?
which is the exact opposite of what your "reputable experts" said would happen.
They are not "my" experts you dumb fuck. Can you fucking read? I don't give a shit about Climate change per se. I know that oil is dirty, dangerous, works like crap and is mostly not in America. Either address what I said not what that little voice in your head told you I said or go fuck yourself.
A smart guy like yourself should know that if they're that far off on the foundation of their theory, they should be disregarded as tools, idiots or in it for the money.
How far off of what? They might be idiot too but as I said before there are MANY reasons to get rid of oil that are solid reasons. Would you care to address those?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:27 pm
by Dinsdale
Ian Harris is laughing at you.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:31 pm
by Goober McTuber
Dinsdale wrote:Ian Harris is laughing at you.
I think it might be a bit more efficient to list the people that
aren't laughing at the little feller.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:32 pm
by Moving Sale
And I am laughing at you for being such a stupid fuck. Go ahead and link us up with some of Ian's brilliance.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:34 pm
by Moving Sale
Goober McTuber wrote:Dinsdale wrote:Ian Harris is laughing at you.
I think it might be a bit more efficient to list the people that
aren't laughing at the little feller.
And why would people be laughing at me? Why would you call me a little feller when I'm as tall as half the male population in the US? How stupid are you? How lazy are you? How could you be so fucking boring? Good fucking god you suck ass.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:36 pm
by Dinsdale
Moving Sale wrote:as I said before there are MANY reasons to get rid of oil that are solid reasons. Would you care to address those?
Another part of the ploy -- if you disagree with the Scammers, it means you're "pro-pollution," and a host of other evils.
In fact, I'm all about alternative energy sources, which are coming.
On this issue, I'm opposed to junk-science, and the complete upending of the scientific process.
When did science become a democracy, ruled by "consensus"? Is the earth still flat? Plate tectonics still a laughingstock?
When they started paying people to toe the party line, that's when. This is ancient Catholic Church shit. "Heretics" and the like.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:37 pm
by Goober McTuber
Moving Sale wrote:Goober McTuber wrote:Dinsdale wrote:Ian Harris is laughing at you.
I think it might be a bit more efficient to list the people that
aren't laughing at the little feller.
Why would you call me a little feller when I'm as tall as half the male population in the US?
Well, half the male population that is under the age of 12.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:41 pm
by Dinsdale
Moving Sale wrote:It doesn't show a 13 nosedive in temp. Are you too stupid to read or are you lying on purpose?
Tard -- you realize the biggest climate scammer of all (OK, no one hangs with Maurice Strong on that front), Peter Jones, the head of the IPCC has admitted that there's been zero warming in 15 years, and got caught red-handed
lying in his "hide the decline" campaign, right?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:41 pm
by Dinsdale
East Anglia Creative Research Unit Head Peter Jones wrote:I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report. Kevin [Trenberth] and I will keep them out somehow - even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:47 pm
by Moving Sale
Dinsdale wrote:
In fact, I'm all about alternative energy sources, which are coming.
Then what is the fucking problem? (And yes I read your post but it didn't answer this question for me so I am asking again)How is it a scam to get you to eat your veggies by telling you they are tasty even if they are not?
FYI-
I don't know if it's a scam. Both sides seem to have there heads pretty far up their own asses, you included.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:48 pm
by Moving Sale
Goober McTuber wrote:
Well, half the male population that is under the age of 12.
You REALLY think that is funney? You think it is smack? You think it has anything to do with this thread? Good god you are a pathetic fuck.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:50 pm
by Moving Sale
Dinsdale wrote:Moving Sale wrote:It doesn't show a 13 nosedive in temp. Are you too stupid to read or are you lying on purpose?
Tard -- you realize the biggest climate scammer of all (OK, no one hangs with Maurice Strong on that front), Peter Jones, the head of the IPCC has admitted that there's been zero warming in 15 years, and got caught red-handed
lying in his "hide the decline" campaign, right?
Assuming you are not lying or completly full of shit...So which is it zero years of dive or 13 years of dive? Your head is junk science you moronic twit.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:10 pm
by Dinsdale
Idiot -- I used those quotation marks quite correctly.
He's publicly admitted there's "no warming" -- he's also been QUOTED (although not for public consumption), while discussing damage control, as hving a need to "hide the decline."
Now, moron, why would he need to "hide the decline" if he wasn't fully aware of a decline?
PROVEN liar... who scored another $25,000,000 in grants recently... by lying.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:33 pm
by Moving Sale
Dinsdale wrote:Idiot -- I used those quotation marks quite correctly.
Huh?
He's publicly admitted there's "no warming" -- he's also been QUOTED (although not for public consumption), while discussing damage control, as hving (sic) a need to "hide the decline."
Link?
And again I know you have trouble with even simple concepts but you said earlier that Peter Jones says there has been zero warming and that someone else says there is a need to hide the decline. Which is it? And what about your graph? Do you still think it has a 13 yr decline? Do you have ANY idea wtf you are talking about?
Now, moron, why would he need to "hide the decline" if he wasn't fully aware of a decline?
So how much is the decline? Where is the data?
PROVEN liar... who scored another $25,000,000 in grants recently... by lying.
You are a PROVEN dumbfuck who is making Zero$ by lying so at least he is one up on you there... assuming he is a proven liar but since you are a proven dumbfuck it is hard to tell.
and AGAIN why does it matter? You said oil sucks so why the fuck do you care?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:34 pm
by Mace
Goober McTuber wrote:Dinsdale wrote:Ian Harris is laughing at you.
I think it might be a bit more efficient to list the people that
aren't laughing at the little feller.
I assume that's what you would call the
short list. Correct?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:40 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Another "Global Warming" thread...
Awesome, thanks guys. Keep raising that bar.
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Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:40 pm
by Moving Sale
Mace,
How is that funney? Why are you so lazy? Or are you just stupid? Maybe you never matured mentally. Is that it? What is you major malfunction numbnuts?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:52 pm
by Dinsdale
Moving Sale wrote:
Link?
Google.com should provide you with a few hundred thousand.
And again I know you have trouble with even simple concepts but you said earlier that Peter Jones says there has been zero warming and that someone else says there is a need to hide the decline. Which is it?
Another false statement -- Peter Jones said there was no warming. He's the same guy who said they need to "hide the decline."
I know brains aren't your strong suit, but why would he feel the need to "hide the decline" (his exact words) if there was no decline.
And what about your graph? Do you still think it has a 13 yr decline?
Another false statement -- I never said the graph shows a 13 year decline. The graph shows a 9-10 year decline in OBSERVED data, ending in 2007, when NASA "adjusted" observed data in order to "hide the decline."
The observed data shows a very clear decline starting around 1997.
So how much is the decline? Where is the data?
Provided in the first post -- NASA'a observed data is in red -- see how that line drops like a rock?
and AGAIN why does it matter? You said oil sucks so why the fuck do you care?
Link to where I said "oil sucks"? Oh wait -- it was another lie you got caught in -- far from the only one in a single post.
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:55 pm
by Dinsdale
LTS TRN 2 wrote:And..remember that ALL of the deniers are total Christer cultists.
And this bit of comedy deserves revisiting.
Dude who believes in the New End Times and impending Armeggedon is calling
others "Christer cultists"...
Anyone know where to score replacement parts from my now-broken irony meter?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:04 pm
by mvscal
LTS TRN 2 wrote:The so-called "scientific" experts who on record as denying Climate Change are ALL on corporate payrolls to deliver those findings.
And Climate Change Alarmists what? Work for free?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:09 pm
by mvscal
Moving Sale wrote:OCMike wrote:Oil is great shit and we should use as much as we can because it is clean and safe and works fucking great not to mention that we here in the USA have all of the oil in the world so it is good for our economy to use as much as we can and resist any effort to find alternative forms of energy.
When are you going to pull your head out of your ass?
When are you going to come up with an alternative source of fuel which can replace the 20 million barrels of oil we use every day?
Got anything?
Re: One more time -- Global Warming
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:16 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Martyred wrote:Another "Global Warming" thread...
Awesome, thanks guys. Keep raising that bar.
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Keep raising that daiquiri, b-juice.
Dins, you're like a firehose of Limdickian blather points. But like the great gaseous hog himself, you slither away from basic issues in the manner of a Kafka-sized cockroach fleeing the light.
For example...why are you avoiding the basic fact that the Big Money in this issue is to be made in
opposing and discrediting the acknowledgment of Climate Change and all it entails and demands? That the giant corporate looting interests to which you refer are actually the oil and mining companies eying that filthy mountain of oil shale tar in Colorado (and Alberta) for immediate development? Who are you pretending to bullshit?
You say there's a Climate Change denialist in the house or senate who isn't a Christer? Who? Inhofe, their leader? :wink: