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Re: The 2011 Lockout Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:35 pm
by Th
The fact that we have to listen to billionaires arguing with millionaires about how to divide up their loot is purely nauseating.
Re: The 2011 Lockout Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:54 pm
by Dinsdale
Th wrote:The fact that we have to listen to billionaires arguing with millionaires about how to divide up their loot is purely nauseating.
No one is forcing you to listen or even contribute a dime.
So, you have two choices -- put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting the industry, or put your mouth where my money is.
Re: The 2011 Lockout Watch
Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:56 pm
by mvscal
KC Scott wrote:I'm pretty sure the "staunch" opposition to the
proposed 18 game schedule is just a bargaining chip and they'll cave pretty quick on it if the revenue pie stays pretty close to current structure.
I'm also 100% there will be a rookie salalry cap and the owners will give into increasing the minimum roster size.
I could also see the owners agreeing to a longer term health plan (current is 5 years after retirement ) and reducing the OTA.
The fact ESPN just agreed to 2 Billion for MNF makes the "We're Losing Money" argument look kinda sick
The current revenue split is 60% to the players - I'm thinking they will settle around 50-52%
Why would the players ever agree to get fucked up that ass like that? Do you honestly expect them to take a 10% cut in revenue
and play two extra regular season games? That would be a horrible deal.
The fact ESPN just agreed to 2 Billion for MNF makes the "We're Losing Money" argument look kinda sick
Really? Have you seen their books? I don't doubt that a number of small market teams are struggling. They've got a lot of overhead and most of the value of these teams is in equity not liquid assets.
A rookie salary cap makes sense for both sides so I don't see that as particularly controversial. The "take a paycut and play more games" is a non-starter.
Re: The 2011 Lockout Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:14 am
by kcdave
Re: The 2011 Lockout Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:27 am
by Dinsdale
KC Scott wrote:
1. The rookie Salary cap - it means more money goes to the veteran players. Meaning that while they may be giving back a % of total revenues the impact on their checks may be minimal
And since they're not in the union with a vote, it's easy to vote for.
Worked out
reasonably well in the NBA.
Re: The 2011 Lockout Watch
Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:50 am
by Th
Dinsdale wrote:Th wrote:The fact that we have to listen to billionaires arguing with millionaires about how to divide up their loot is purely nauseating.
No one is forcing you to listen or even contribute a dime.
So, you have two choices -- put your money where your mouth is and stop supporting the industry, or put your mouth where my money is.
First of all WAR EAGLE! Second of all, my point is that the common fan will likely feel VERY alienated by a work stoppage with all the money floating around the NFL. Whether or not I contribute a dime is irrelevant. 3rd of all, why don't we ask the NHL how well a work stoppage plays out for the greater good of the sport?
Will we have football in the fall?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:22 am
by Cosmo Kramer
I'm hoping that the two sides can come to an agreement and not kill the golden cow. Is it Billionaires vs. Millionaires? with the little guys paying their salaries and getting screwed?
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/ ... id=6064472
Re: Will we have football in the fall?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:44 am
by War Wagon
It's golden "goose", dumbfuck.
There will be a lock-out in March, settled in April before the draft.
Re: Will we have football in the fall?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:16 pm
by Goober McTuber
War Wagon wrote:It's golden "goose", dumbfuck.
He was probably staring at his wife when he typed "cow". Understandable mistake.
Re: Will we have football in the fall?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:10 pm
by jiminphilly
War Wagon wrote:It's golden "goose", dumbfuck.
There will be a lock-out in March, settled in April before the draft.
With the Player's Union collapsing once again.
If they were truly in solidarity there would be no pro-bowl this year.
Re: Will we have football in the fall?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:22 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Rack Whitey and Gobbles McTubesteak.
Re: Will we have football in the fall?
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:36 pm
by R-Jack
The union is united in the prospect of getting OTA's off this year.
Deal will get done before a game check is lost.
Re: Will we have football in the fall?
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:49 pm
by Dinsdale
War Wagon wrote:It's golden "goose", dumbfuck.
Hehehehe...
I'll let you figure out why it's funny on your own, Punctuation Master.