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Wanna get pissed off?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:17 am
by Dinsdale
Then read this:
OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - For 18 years, Devi Prasai lived in a packed refugee camp after fleeing from ethnic tensions in his native Bhutan. Prasai waited for a chance at a better life for himself, his wife and children. It finally came, when the United States agreed to welcome thousands of Bhutanese and Prasai was approved to come to America.

But now in Washington state, he's struggling to keep a roof over his head.

Prasai's monthly state cash assistance has decreased from $662 to $561. Rent for the one-bedroom apartment in Kent - where he, his wife and two children live - costs $599 monthly.

"No job," Prasai said through an interpreter. "Both of us have no English, so we have not found job."

Prasai is one of thousands of refugees who have resettled in Washington state over the years, with many struggling with a tough job market and decreasing assistance from the state.

And it may get worse.

Gov. Chris Gregoire has proposed wiping out completely programs that subsidize English classes, job search and pathways to naturalization. Those proposed cuts also go along with budget reductions to other programs that serve refugees, such as waivers for dental exams.

It's a drastic change in how this state treats refugees. Historically, Washington has been one of the most welcoming. It's one of a handful of states that provide significant money to refugee programs, on top of what the federal government provides.

"Historically, Washington state has been very generous in providing dollars," said Bob Johnson, executive director at the Seattle office of the International Rescue Committee and a veteran in refugee resettlement. But, he said, "Everybody's got a problem. It's not like moving (money) around, there's nothing to move anymore."

Prasai and Johnson joined hundreds of refugees this past week as they lobbied lawmakers in Olympia in an attempt to stop more proposed cuts. Many carried white poster board signs calling for "equal access to jobs" and boasting that refugees are "legal" immigrants.

It's an uphill fight, though. The state is grappling with a $5 billion deficit for the next two year budget. Lawmakers are also trying to patch a hole of half a billion dollars in the current budget. The refugee programs are solely funded by state money and not tied to federal mandates - making them easier to cut.

There were "no easy cuts, but they were made out of necessity," said Karina Shagren, a spokeswoman for Gregoire. "The governor has said many times that this budget doesn't reflect her values...and unfortunately some programs that affect refugees were impacted."

Shagren also said that Gregoire had concerns about programs that aid legal immigrants and refugees, but may also be used by illegal immigrants.

"Unfortunately refugees fall victim," she said.

One of those programs is the Limited English Proficient (LEP) Pathways/Refugee Services Program. Cutting it would save about $10 million in the next two-year budget. In this program, the state provides cash to agencies to provide English classes and job training and search.

Refugee advocates say this program is critical to keep because it helps refugees come off assistance by finding them jobs.

"We're able to talk to clients in their own languages," said Shane Rock, Director of Refugee Services at Jewish Family Services. Rock says that his agency last year helped 167 refugees find a job with wages high enough to "pay rent and get off government assistance."

Rock said if having a refugee system that moves them away from welfare is essential, if the state is to continue with its refugee efforts.

"We don't want to bring people if they can't become self-sufficient here," Rock said.

Refugees who are still dependent on cash assistance will see a 15 percent reduction as of this month. Those reductions to welfare payments ordered by Gregoire will save the state $21 million in this fiscal year and nearly $98 million in the next two-year budget.

So far, lawmakers have partially saved the LEP program. And the Senate and House differ on whether to cut the naturalization program. Cutting it would save about $5 million in the next two-year budget.

"I am concerned that this will change the whole tone of this state. This has been a state that has welcomed people," Sen. Margarita Prentice, D-Renton, one of the legislature's veteran minority lawmakers.

Since 2002, Washington has ranked sixth in the nation in refugee resettlement with about 24,500 initial arrivals. In fiscal year 2010, more than 3,000 people arrived in Washington, according to statistics from the Department of State. Those numbers don't account for refugees who come here after their initial resettlement in another state.

More than 3 million refugees have been resettled in the United States since 1975.

That year Washington state welcomed its first few hundred refugees, Johnson said. They were Vietnamese fleeing their war-ravaged country. They were settled in Camp Murray in Pierce County. That year, Johnson said, the state government acted as a resettlement agency.

The welcoming environment soon ushered other private resettlement agencies and the refugee community here boomed. Unlike other states that focus on one group from a single country, refugees here come from diverse corners in the world.

Back in Olympia, Prasai joined a group of fellow Bhutanese refugees in the rally. With little English, he stayed mostly quiet to outsiders and didn't join others in lobbying legislators. But through an interpreter, his worries came out.

He and his wife are learning English, but their limited knowledge of the language has kept them from jobs, he said. They've applied to farm jobs and seafood packing, but have had no luck since arriving in August of 2009.

"I'm concerned I will be homeless," he said.

They marched on Olympia to let it be known we're not doing enough.


Fuck them -- I'm sure the concentration camps we paid to get you out of will offer you 2-3 almost-squares... we'll even catch your airfare.

Re: Wanna get pissed off?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:45 am
by BSmack
The scrapyard I managed years ago used to hire Vietnamese refugees. Those guys would bust their asses for the 5.50/hr they were making doing some of the dirtiest and mundane jobs possible. They had a rough go of it their first few years in country, but every one of them eventually learned passable English within two years. When I left the yard, the longest tenured of our refugee hires had graduated from sorting to crane operation. I haven't seen anybody from the scrapyard in years, but I would be amazed if these guys are still sorting brass for near minimum wage. They were WAY too hard working for that.

I suspect these Bhutanese folk are just as hard working as the Vietnamese guys I had the pleasure of working with. Obviously there's a total disconnect with the folks running the refugee programs in Washington state and the reality of the unskilled, don't need a lot of functional English job market.

Re: Wanna get pissed off?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:41 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Wasn't aware Dins paid taxes in Washington state.

Re: Wanna get pissed off?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:23 pm
by smackaholic
seeing as a decent chunk of the refugee welfare plan likely comes from a fed gubmint grant, he may, as do the rest of us.

Re: Wanna get pissed off?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:34 pm
by Mace
If we're going to bring them here then the very least we can do is teach them enough English to get them in the job market and have a chance to find employment and be self supporting. Otherwise, they will never find gainful employment.

Re: Wanna get pissed off?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:58 pm
by Derron
Mace wrote:If we're going to bring them here then the very least we can do is teach them enough English to get them in the job market and have a chance to find employment and be self supporting. Otherwise, they will never find gainful employment.
It does not seem like the " I have no English " card prevented about a bazillion illegals from everywhere else from making a go of it in the great US of A over the last 25 or so years.

I call bullshit. Just another bunch of welfare sucking low life's, sucking our tax system dry for benefits that we all pay for.

Re: Wanna get pissed off?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:39 pm
by FLW Buckeye
Screw_Michigan wrote:Wasn't aware Dins paid taxes in Washington state.
When did they start taxing cookie dough?