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Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:30 pm
by Moby Dick
Spray,, your presence is requested in the CFB Fantasy Baseball forum. stat.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:26 pm
by SoCalTrjn
someone explain to this moron that the reason Allbarn isn't on that list is because they were not ranked in the SI preseason top 25.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:57 am
by SoCalTrjn
what is fucking remarkable proof of an Anti-USC bias going on at ESPN is that the Trojans are the headliners in the ESPN article on SI's report even with 10 schools with more players and 3 with the same amount.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/

I have no idea how many Auburn has but sCam Newton was arrested in November for possesion of stolen goods so that would put them at least ahead of TCU

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:51 pm
by Carson
Newton was at Florida when he was arrested, you condom washer.

Years ago.

Face it Schmuck, nobody on this board will ever feel sorry for The LA School for Rich Brats.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:11 pm
by SoCalTrjn
was Newton not on Auburns roster last year? The report wasnt about where they were arrested it was about how many players per team had a criminal record, with Auburn fan knowing Newton had been arrested how does Auburn fan not realize that the list was only pre season top 25 teams since the team in 25th had 0. Is Auburn fan so naive that they believe only 24 teams had players with criminal records?

If nobody cares about USC why are the Trojans ESPNs headline on the story even though 13 of the 24 other teams had more or the same amount of players. It is an obvious stab at USC with more negative publicity and to deny that shows how fucking stupid you really are

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:27 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
You SECers should really brush up on that whole reading comprehension thing. When you're getting worked by Toejam, it's about time.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:51 pm
by Bucmonkey
Worked?

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:57 am
by Carson
I wrote:Face it Schmuck, nobody on this board will ever feel sorry for The LA School for Rich Brats.
ESPN has been swallowing Trojan choad ever since they merged with ABC/Disney.

Auburnfan indeed was well aware of the laptop incident. Does that make a fucking difference?

I wonder if any other Auburn students have (gasp) "criminal" records.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:37 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Bucmonkey wrote:Worked?
Verrrry good.

~pats head~

You are coming along nicely. One word at a time. Soon you'll be able to understand entire sentences.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:05 am
by Felix
Sudden Sam wrote:I was reading this in the doc's office yesterday.

Sorta puts the kibosh on the ol' Boise State feel good story, doesn't it?
no doubt, having 15 guys on the team that have had underage alcohol trouble warrants erasing all the team has accomplished in such a short amount of time....of course, the article never mentions what the arrests were for, just provides numbers....the article was sensationalism at it's worst....

and I know, it's nothing personal with you and Boise State, that's why you ALWAYS single them out

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:09 pm
by Felix
Sudden Sam wrote:
If 15 of the arrests were for underage drinking, I have no problem with BSU. The article absolutely should have broken down what each school's arrests were for...at least for the worst offenders number-wise.
that's the problem with articles like the one in SI....it doesn't tell the whole story....
The high school kid featured in the article...the kid who will be at Utah next year...should be in prison, not in college. He pulled a gun on a group of people and robbed them...then threatened to kill them if they told on him. You pull a gun...you should go to prison. Period.
agreed...
I know the Broncos can never get into a major conference, so I don't know how that should all shake out. If they play 4 top tier programs OOC every year and continue to do well, they deserve a shot.

Oh, and get rid of that pissant blue field. :D


never say never...but the odds are pretty long on them ever getting into a power conference.....but the whole idea of virtually eliminating 3/4 of the FBS schools before they ever take the field is fucking stupid
Seriously, I was shocked BSU was on that crime list. All those schools on the list should report exactly what the kids were arrested for. If they're minor offinses, fine. If they're not...cut 'em.
Petersen doesn't put up with much....he'll drop the hammer on potential trouble because that's not who he is and not how he runs the program.....

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:13 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:All those schools on the list should report exactly what the kids were arrested for. If they're minor offinses, fine. If they're not...cut 'em.

I don't have the Oregon breakdown, but I'm under the impression they've weeded out the thugs.

Eugene/Springfield/Lane County have become pretty overzealous going after the underaged drinkers, and if they play for U of O sports, they write marijuana possession tickets (that's all it is in Oregon, a ticket), despite being the Pothead Capital of the Universe.

I seem to remember someone (Mace?) mentioning athletes get singled out where they are, too. Not that I'm advocating the "free pass" Duck players got in the 90's (rumor has it Akile Smith got caught drinking and driving about once a month), but being singled out kinda sucks, too.


There's a "boys will be boys" element here, and there's a "bad guys are bad guys" one working here, as well.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:40 pm
by Mace
The biggest problem is that many states can't legally release juvenile criminal histories but it's been my experience as a tit-sucking public employee who routinely collected juvenile criminal histories to include in Pre-Sentence Investigations for the courts, that the NCAA might possibly require all recruits and their parents to sign a Release of Information that would allow schools to investigate their criminal pasts. I'm sure that there would be some resistance to doing this but it's one possible avenue to explore for schools to find out what kind of kid they're recruiting. Doesn't preclude them from offering the kid a scholarship and giving him a second chance, but at least they'd know what they were getting.

Bottom line: No signed Release of Information = No scholarship.

At least they could do this if they are really concerned about the criminals that are allowed to play college sports.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:51 am
by King Crimson
i went to vanderbilt on an academic scholly and tried to walk on to the golf team.....but i had a "record" in HS.

possession of marijuana. was a second degree felony in many states. if i was a brother, it would be this kind of story.

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:21 pm
by Carson
Previously, I wrote:I wonder if any other Auburn students have (gasp) "criminal" records.
:doh:

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:48 am
by Laxplayer
Hey Mace, what do you do if a kid pays for his juv record to be sealed?
I taught in the LA Juvenile justice system for 16 years and we had a boat load of athletes from very high prominent So. Cal schools come through our doors and spend some time in our exclusive gated communities. When they hit 18 they can seal their record, so how does a college get around that?

Re: College Football & Crime.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:56 pm
by Mace
Laxplayer wrote:Hey Mace, what do you do if a kid pays for his juv record to be sealed?
I taught in the LA Juvenile justice system for 16 years and we had a boat load of athletes from very high prominent So. Cal schools come through our doors and spend some time in our exclusive gated communities. When they hit 18 they can seal their record, so how does a college get around that?
Change the law. Juvenile records can be accessed in Iowa and, even though a lot of young adults I dealt with in my former profession thought those records were sealed, they were not, and they were surprised when their juvenile criminal history came back to bite them in the ass when they committed crimes as an adult. Also, if a kid wants a scholarship, he and his parents should be willing to sign a release and leaving it up to the college whether they're willing to take them. It's just a matter of making it a requirement by the NCAA and for some states to tweak their laws regarding juvenile offenders.

If it were up to me, I'd make it a requirement for all students wanting to enroll in a college and that their juvenile records would be sent to the college, just like their high school transcripts, so the schools know who they're admitting. The military has access to these records before they take a kid for enlistment, so why shouldn't colleges?