Phil better get his check book out

[SoCalTrjn]

because he is going to have to write a lot more checks to get this to go away.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... lly_070111

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbs ... 8/30368520

Chip Kelly is done.

[R-Jack]

Couldn't this have gone in your take stealing thread, since this is just an update of the content you Ctrl-C'd?

[SoCalTrjn]

what take stealing, the only thing I posted here is what I posted there or a quote from the link I posted.

[Killian]

what take stealing, the only thing I posted here is what I posted there or a quote from the link I posted.

No, you posted a whole fucking take from another board.

[SoCalTrjn]

The quote that I posted from another board was the quote from the article in the link, if it wasnt quoted on here it was what I typed on the other board as well.



It also seems like the Ducks have been trading a lot of their game worn equipment as well
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 500wt_1156

Heres a few of this sellers other items
http://shop.ebay.com/webfoot1509/m.html ... 4340.l2562

It seems that players are trading their equipment for Marijuana, the webfoot guy on ebay is a Medical Marijuana dealer in Eugene who just happens to have a whole lot of game worn equipment from Oregons football and basketball teams for sale.

Guess its harder to notice the kush these guys are trading their gear for compared to the tats the ohio state guys were trading stuff for.

[Killian]

Yeah, except you didn't "quote" shit. You passed off the whole fucking post as your take, dick.

[SoCalTrjn]

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregon ... s_how.html

“This is the way recruiting goes,” Lyles said of Seastrunk’s recruitment. “I knew personal things about the kid. Those small things turn out to be big things in recruiting. It helps coaches form their approach.”

What kind of food does a recruit like? Who are the influential decision-makers in the recruit’s household? What kinds of perks does the recruit respond to?

Lyles said he advised Kelly that Seastrunk’s mother did not want her son to attend Oregon, and would have to be worked around. “His mother was crazy with them. Just crazy talk to the (Ducks) coaches. It was unbelievable.”

Also, Lyles told Kelly, Seastrunk loves Air Jordan sneakers.

“He’s a complete Jordan-head,” Lyles said. “That’s one of the big things he liked. So Oregon had a pair of Jordans for him -- only one of two pairs ever made.”

Lyles said that he talked “constantly” on the telephone to Kelly, and to others in the football offices. Telephone records obtained by The Oregonian support this.

Said Lyles: “I did a lot of work. I felt my service was worth every penny. I overstepped the line some… helping (Seastrunk) get the (letter of intent) done was over the line… I didn’t know it was the wrong thing to do. But it’s not like I wasn’t going to do it. The kid wanted to go to school there.

“I didn’t want him selling shoes in Foot Locker for the rest of his life. Did it break NCAA rules? Maybe. I don’t know for sure. Was it immoral? Was it the wrong thing to do?

1 pair of only 2 ever made of these AIr Jordans.... seems to implicate Nike and/or Phil Knight in this providing extra benefits for recruits on their visits to Oregon. How else doe Seastrunk get his hands on something as rare as 1 of 2 pairs of Air Jordans ever made, someone with a lot of pull at Nike provided those shoes to either Oregon, for the use of giving them to recruits, or to Seastrunk himself.
That leads to

How much of the stuff Deanthony Thomas received on his recruiting visit to Eugene were rare Nike items, how far did that gear exceed the cost value that the NCAA permits schools to provide recruits with on recruiting trips and how is an Oregon Booster like Corde Calvin Broadus permitted to accompany Thomas on his recruiting trip to Eugene?

Phil Knight needs to be paid a visit by the NCAA and if there is any proof that he is providing these benefits to the school so the school can provide them for recruits, he should have to sever all ties with the schools athletic department.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Shut up, you stupid tard. Nobody cares what you or your thieved takes have to say.

[Goober McTuber]

Top 10 dirtiest college football programs of all time (per CBS Sportsline's Mike Freeman):

10. Colorado. Two names: Slick Rick Neuheisel and Gary "Who Me?" Barnett. Five major institutional NCAA infractions at Colorado, including two this decade, according to the NCAA. Numerous rape accusations against recruits and players. Very solid work, fellas, very solid work.

9. Florida State. Pains me to put them here because I think Bobby Bowden is one of the best human beings on the planet, but I can't skip over Free Shoes University.

8. Texas A&M. The state of Texas, football and rules violations go together like ham, egg and cheese. Might deserve a higher slot, but the Aggies' cheat-to-win ratio is low. In other words, it hasn't been money well spent.

7. Washington. There's that Neuheisel name again.

6. Miami (Fla.). This is an interesting one. In terms of total school major infractions (all sports), the mighty Hurricanes are tied at five with universities like Baylor, Mississippi State and the University of Texas-Pan American, and behind the University of Memphis and the Minnesota Golden Gophers (such a cute mascot for such blatant rules violators). Thus Miami loses some street cred. You cannot be but so much a bad ass when Texas-Pan American nearly out-cheats you.

But ah, the Hurricanes. They are like the Smokey Robinson of rules breakers. They might not be the all-time best but they make the most out of their opportunities.

5. SMU. An old-school classic. Received the death penalty. Harkens back to a time when the NCAA had testicles and did not pucker up to the derrières of fat-cat college presidents. Those were the days, when men were men and cheaters took great pride in their work. Cash payments distributed in a timely fashion, luxury cars handed out like heads of lettuce, players bought and paid for. Made you proud to be an American.

4. Arizona State. Never has so much rules breaking gotten a school so little. But they are creative out there in desert. One NCAA investigation found that a compliance officer allowed a football player to utilize her personal credit account for buying $900 worth of car equipment. She also opened a utility account for the player. I don't understand. Can't a brother get his electric bill paid?

3. Oklahoma. Boy, was that Barry Switzer fun.

2. Auburn. The SEC is to cheating what Superman is to comic book heroes. The best. Just about every school in the conference has a major infraction. The SEC boosters are so wealthy that spending $20,000 on a recruit is the equivalent of a martini lunch. Auburn earns a solid silver in the cheating Olympics.

1. Alabama. This is all you need to know about the skill and greatness of Alabama. An NCAA committee found that booster forked over $150,000 to a high school coach as a guarantee that a defensive lineman would attend Alabama. Yes -- $150,000. Now that is how you break the rules, people.

[MuchoBulls]

Once again, RACK LSUFREEK.

[SEC! SEC! SEC!]

2. Auburn. The SEC is to cheating what Superman is to comic book heroes. The best. Just about every school in the conference has a major infraction. The SEC boosters are so wealthy that spending $20,000 on a recruit is the equivalent of a martini lunch. Auburn earns a solid silver in the cheating Olympics.

1. Alabama. This is all you need to know about the skill and greatness of Alabama. An NCAA committee found that booster forked over $150,000 to a high school coach as a guarantee that a defensive lineman would attend Alabama. Yes -- $150,000. Now that is how you break the rules, people.

Hells yeah!

Fuckin' Rack!

[Goober McTuber]

Thanks, Chip.

I wasn't interested smart enough to grab a screen shot.

FTFY.

[Killian]

Pretty sure that's not a screen grab, and that's an actual note Kelly sent to Lyles. If true, he's fucked.

[Dinsdale]

1 pair of only 2 ever made of these AIr Jordans.... seems to implicate Nike and/or Phil Knight in this providing extra benefits for recruits on their visits to Oregon. How else doe Seastrunk get his hands on something as rare as 1 of 2 pairs of Air Jordans ever made, someone with a lot of pull at Nike provided those shoes to either Oregon, for the use of giving them to recruits, or to Seastrunk himself.

You mean the pair of Jordans that Oregon put in a display case in the trophy room before Seastrunk's visit... where they still sit?


Yup, that's the sort of "reporting" that we've come to expect from Clownzano -- if there's no story, make something up.

[Dinsdale]

Yahoo article.

Figures... Wetzel.

For those that don't know, there's the inbred-Fresno-sports "journalist"-cronyistic thing.

Wetzel, Wojnorowski, Canzan, and a few I forget.

They're all yellow journalists of the highest order, who arent aove flagrant embellishment, if it means their cronies vote for them for national awards.

They're dirtier than any recruiting scandal they've ever covered, and they should be both ashamed and unemployed.

[indyfrisco]

They got it right on U$C.

Come on Dins...don't go toejam on us. Take the beating you got coming like a man! Your're 40+!

[Dinsdale]

They got it right on U$C.

Some of it, anyway.

But we've now areadyseen reports about Lyles/Oregon that are proven false.

I'm on the fence here -- the CFB lover in me says thatif a team, even my team, broke the rules, then they deserve punishment. But that's been offset by the idea that if Oregon gets off scott-free ("gets off"... "scott"... "free"... i sense a Sin, KCScrote reset coming), Toejam will probably have a coronary and die...

which would save a lot of SoCal youth a lot of pain.

Do it for the children, NCAA.


And all you need to know aBOUT Wetzel -- read his current column about Tiger Woods. In one short column, he claims Woods' website contains falsehoods (which he doesn't back up even anecdotally, much less substantially, which is yellow-journalism), and also makes it clear he's much better qualified than Woods' doctors to determine when and how he should play golf.

He is the embodiment of douchebag.

[SoCalTrjn]

Re: Top 10 dirtiest college football programs of all time (per CBS Sportsline's Mike Freeman):

The PAC-12 will blow the SEC outta those rankings by the first kickoff this year.

USC, Arizona State, Oregon, Colorado...these schools make the SEC look like choirboys.

Hell, even Utah signed a kid who brandished a gun and threatened to kill folks (not that this involved actual cheating.) Those folks out west will sign anybody.

obviously said tongue in cheek, pay for play is the worst form of cheating done in college football and its a staple of sec recruiting, has been for 30+ years. Oregon is guilty of running their program the way sec programs are all ran

[SoCalTrjn]

Yahoo article.

Figures... Wetzel.

For those that don't know, there's the inbred-Fresno-sports "journalist"-cronyistic thing.

Wetzel, Wojnorowski, Canzan, and a few I forget.

They're all yellow journalists of the highest order, who arent aove flagrant embellishment, if it means their cronies vote for them for national awards.

They're dirtier than any recruiting scandal they've ever covered, and they should be both ashamed and unemployed.

So when yahoo says that one 60 second call at 2 am from Lloyd Lake to Todd McNair after Reggie Bush has left USC it is proof that USC was involved in the deal that Lake and Michaels had with Lamar Griffen, its a smoking gun vs the Trojans that they deserve LOIC for but over 400 phone calls and texts from Chip Kelly himself to Will Lyles the month before Seastrunks commitment, it's just crazy people from Fresneck?

[SoCalTrjn]

1 pair of only 2 ever made of these AIr Jordans.... seems to implicate Nike and/or Phil Knight in this providing extra benefits for recruits on their visits to Oregon. How else doe Seastrunk get his hands on something as rare as 1 of 2 pairs of Air Jordans ever made, someone with a lot of pull at Nike provided those shoes to either Oregon, for the use of giving them to recruits, or to Seastrunk himself.

You mean the pair of Jordans that Oregon put in a display case in the trophy room before Seastrunk's visit... where they still sit?


Yup, that's the sort of "reporting" that we've come to expect from Clownzano -- if there's no story, make something up.

Will Lyles actually went on to the guys radio show and set him straight. So far, everything Lyles has said seems to be accurate. The Lyles trail also leads to the door of Cal, Texas A&M and LSU, after Kelly is fired and Oregon goes down, yahoo will move on to those programs.

[Dinsdale]

So far, everything Lyles has said seems to be accurate.

Like the part where he ays he's NEVER steered any recruit to ANY school, and has never represented any school's interest in regards to recruits?

[SoCalTrjn]

So far, everything Lyles has said seems to be accurate.

Like the part where he ays he's NEVER steered any recruit to ANY school, and has never represented any school's interest in regards to recruits?

OK, everything he has said since getting off of Nikes payroll :D

[Dinsdale]

Seastrunk wanted to go to USC, until he found out they were getting whacked.

If you're looking to become a pro running back, where would you go to school? Over the last 10 years, I don't think any school can match Oregon's record for putting RBs in the NFL -- pretty much been all of them (except Terrence Whitehead, who led the PAC, but still sucked).

[SoCalTrjn]

every coach recruiting a kid that was going to go to USC for the last 6 years was telling that kid USC was going to get whacked. Seastrunks mom wanted Seastrunk to go to USC, thats why Lyles took mom out of the picture and got Seastrunks grandma to sign off the LOI.

I like how Thomas said he wanted to go to USC because he wanted to study film and USC has the best film school in the world, whats the film school at Oregon like?

[L45B]

They got it right on U$C.

Come on Dins...don't go toejam on us. Take the beating you got coming like a man! Your're 40+!

Not to mention they got it right on tOSU as well, even though the school had already reported it to the NCAA behind the scenes.

If it were SI or ESPN, I would be skeptical. But yahoo's record has been pretty good as of late.

[R-Jack]

If you're looking to become a pro running back, where would you go to school?

The SEC, of course.

I think he meant turning pro after college, not during.

[M Club]

Not to mention they got it right on tOSU as well, even though the school had already reported it to the NCAA behind the scenes.

oh, the ncaa was behind the "federal confidentiality" excuse as well?

[L45B]

oh, the ncaa was behind the "federal confidentiality" excuse as well?

Easy there, weasel fan, was merely pointing out the timeline of said events.

The original yahoo article regarding Tressel's email exchanges with the lawyer was a leak from the ongoing NCAA investigation.

Other articles released by SI and the like attempted to pile on, speculating on special car deals for players and wrongfully accused specific players of getting free tattoos.

The day Edward Rife was found guilty of drug trafficking charges, ESPN decided to make it a front page headline. Luckily for Duckfan, nothing related to this Oregon situation will even come close to the amount of attention the media has given to OSU.

[Dinsdale]

Sorry, Ducksters. You had your moment in the sun and now, because of cockyass Kelly, it's over.

By "moment in the sun," you meant "won thr most games of any PAC team in the 90's, and made multiple BCS bowl apearances in the 2000's," right? (While kicking the shit out of every SEC team that dared to step to them.)

While I've een doom-and-gloom about this, the more I read, the more minor it sounds. No one was "paid to play." Some paperwork was out of order from a recruiting service/consultant. Whoop-de-do. Does Cal and LSU have their Lyles paperwork in order?

[Mr T]

While kicking the shit out of every SEC team that dared to step to them

[Dinsdale]

Got me there -- I was meaning OOC, but that's not what I said.

[Dinsdale]

And please recall that a week or so ago, I was the one in here suggesting that Oregon would only incur a minor thrashing from the NCAA.

I know. A week or so ago, the media-witchhunt was in full swing. Much like with tOSU, the media's indictments were greater than the actual offenses. tOSU's big "crime" was more in the coverup than the actual offenses.

[Dinsdale]

The old system worked -- any Duck who made the NFL, regardless how well they did, ot a long-term, gaudy shoe contract.

Kinda shady, but legal.

[Goober McTuber]

Gee - I wonder how much Wisconsin is having to pay it's players to make them want to live in that spectacular climate they have.

We don’t get often get the five stars, just a few four stars and a lot of threes. So the players that aren’t good enough to draw a check in the SEC are happy to just get an education at a top tier school like Wisconsin. And a good number of our recruits grew up in northern climes and are not weather pussies.

[SoCalTrjn]

Sorry, Ducksters. You had your moment in the sun and now, because of cockyass Kelly, it's over.

By "moment in the sun," you meant "won thr most games of any PAC team in the 90's, and made multiple BCS bowl apearances in the 2000's," right? (While kicking the shit out of every SEC team that dared to step to them.)

While I've een doom-and-gloom about this, the more I read, the more minor it sounds. No one was "paid to play." Some paperwork was out of order from a recruiting service/consultant. Whoop-de-do. Does Cal and LSU have their Lyles paperwork in order?

USC and Washington both won multiple Rose Bowls in the 90s, Oregon only reached one and hasn't won a Rose Bowl in 100 years. like it or not, conference wins dont determine success in the Pac, Rose Bowl wins do. USC has been to the Rose Bowl 33 times and has won 24 of them, Oregon has been to the game 5 times and only won it once, a hundred years ago.

And why go back to the 90s when Washington was hammered with sanctions and USC was hammered with Paul Hackett

[SoCalTrjn]

Pete and Lane have nothing to do with what is wrong with USC, its all on Reggie and his step dad wanting to get paid based on what Reggie would make in the NFL.
Fuck Reggie and his step dad, USC was buttfucked because Bush and his step dad would not talk to the NCAA, not for anything USC as a school or Carrolls coaching staff did but because a player and his step dad wanted to cash in with pro agents. Now Reggie wants to make it up to the school for what he did, how about reggie pays for 30 scholarships for football players so USC wont be 30 men down. Reggie didnt care about the school, the program or the future players in it, he and his dad were only concerned with themselves, when nobody at USC would pay them, they found someone who would.

[SoCalTrjn]

Darren Thomas was also in the car rented by the school employee so the players could run up to Portland and trade memorabilia for weed.
http://www.kval.com/news/local/127896303.html

Appears Phil has paid off the Oregon state police as well

[Dinsdale]

Darren Thomas was also in the car rented by the school employee so the players could run up to Portland and appear in the largest public event in Oregon, the Rose Festival Parade, where he served as co-Grand Marshall.

FTFY