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Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:14 pm
by Sirfindafold
or should we give George W. credit for this:


Improving Mexican economy draws undocumented immigrants home from California

By Stephen Magagnini

There are fewer undocumented immigrants in California – and the Sacramento region – because many are now finding the American dream south of the border.

"It's now easier to buy homes on credit, find a job and access higher education in Mexico," Sacramento's Mexican consul general, Carlos González Gutiérrez, said Wednesday. "We have become a middle-class country."

Mexico's unemployment rate is now 4.9 percent, compared with 9.4 percent joblessness in the United States.

An estimated 300,000 undocumented immigrants have left California since 2008, though the remaining 2.6 million still make up 7 percent of the population and 9 percent of the labor force, according to the Public Policy Institute of California.

Among metropolitan areas with more than 1 million residents, Sacramento County ranks among the lowest, with an unauthorized population of 4.6 percent of its 1.4 million residents in 2008, according to Laura Hill, a demographer with the PPIC.

The Sacramento region, suffering from 12.3 percent unemployment and the construction bust, may have triggered a large exodus of undocumented immigrants, González Gutiérrez said.

The best-paid jobs for undocumented migrants are in the building industry, "and because of the severe crisis in the construction business here, their first response has been to move into the service industry," González Gutiérrez said. "But that has its limits. Then, they move to other areas in the U.S. to find better jobs – or back to Mexico."

Hill said it's hard to know whether the benefit of having fewer undocumented migrants outweighs the cost to employers and taxpayers.

California may have to provide less free education to the children of undocumented immigrants and less emergency medical care, she said, but it will also get less tax revenue.
In 2008, at least 836,100 undocumented immigrants filed U.S. tax returns in California using individual tax identification numbers known as ITINS, said Hill, who conducted the tax survey.

Based on those tax returns, the study found there were 65,000 undocumented immigrants in Sacramento County that year, far fewer than in many other big counties.

Sacramento's undocumented population ranked 10th in the state that year, behind Los Angeles, Orange, San Diego, Santa Clara, San Bernardino, Riverside, Alameda, Contra Costa and Ventura.

There were an estimated 12,000 undocumented immigrants in Yolo County; 9,000 in the Sutter-Yuba area; and 8,000 in Placer County.

An analysis of local ZIP codes showed that Sacramento (95815, 95823, 95824), West Sacramento (95605), Clarksburg (95612), Esparto (95627), Guinda (95637), Knights Landing (95645), Winters (95694) and Woodland (95776) each had an undocumented population of 10 percent to 15 percent.

Yolo County relies heavily on migrant workers to grow and harvest crops.

"People in construction are now turning to agriculture; it's the start of the tomato season so the harvesters will be jump-started pretty soon," said Woodland Mayor Art Pimentel, whose 55,000 residents are 48 percent Latino, some of them undocumented.

Some aren't sticking around for the upcoming tomato harvest, said Sylvina Frausto, secretary of Holy Rosary Church in Woodland. "Some have a small parcel in Mexico. They own their own home there, so instead of renting here they go back to their small business there."

Many raise animals, run grocery stores or sell fruits and goods on street corners.

"They're going back home because they can't get medical help or government assistance anymore," Frausto said, "And when it's getting so difficult for them to find a job without proper documentation, it's pushing them away."

Anita Barnes, director of La Familia Counseling Center on Franklin Boulevard in Sacramento, said she recently spoke to a high school graduate who had lost his job in a restaurant and was thinking of going back to Mexico.

"He came over with his mom, who was in the process of losing her restaurant job," Barnes said. "It's frightening, especially for the children. They feel this is their country, they don't know anything else, and they find they can't get driver's licenses or jobs."

As its economy rebounds, Mexico "is becoming a better option than it was in the past, but you still have to find a job and reconnect," Barnes said.

While the weakened U.S. economy, rising deportations and tougher border enforcement have led to fewer undocumented migrants, changes in Mexico are playing a significant role, González Gutiérrez said.

Mexico's average standard of living – including health, education and per capita income – is now higher than those in Russia, China and India, according to the United Nations.

Mexico's growing middle class "reduces the appetites to come because there are simply many more options" at home, González Gutiérrez said. "Most people who decided to migrate already have a job in Mexico and tend to be the most ambitious and attracted to the income gap between the U.S. and Mexico."

Mexico's economy is growing at 4 percent to 5 percent, benefiting from low inflation, exports and a strong banking system, the consul said.

Mexico's birthrate is also declining sharply. "As a natural consequence of us transforming from a rural to an urban society, we are running out of Mexicans to export," González Gutiérrez said. "Our society's growing at a rate of 2.1 children per woman – in the 1970s it was more than five."

Once the U.S. economy recovers, the flow of migrants moving north "may go up again, although most likely they will not reach the peak levels we saw in the first half of the decade," González Gutiérrez said.



Hope and Change motherfuckers.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:09 pm
by smackaholic
how long before we have socal gringos digging tunnels to economic opportunity?

nothing new really, for in the U&R have been heading south for jobs and a lower cost of living for 30 years. looks like it's you left coaster's turn.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:20 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
smackaholic wrote: nothing new really, for in the U&R have been heading south for jobs and a lower cost of living for 30 years. looks like it's you left coaster's turn.
sweet baby jesus...what the fuck was that?

:?

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:33 pm
by smackaholic
Martyred wrote:
smackaholic wrote: nothing new really, for in the U&R have been heading south for jobs and a lower cost of living for 30 years. looks like it's you left coaster's turn.
sweet baby jesus...what the fuck was that?

:?
people/companies have been leaving the U&R for years to escape regressive taxes, high cost of living and union thugery.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:34 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
No, I meant grammar, spelling, syntax...

wow

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:35 pm
by The Seer
smackaholic wrote:how long before we have socal gringos digging tunnels to economic opportunity?
Never going to happen. Mexicans believe in border enforcement against illegals.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:56 pm
by Screw_Michigan
The Seer wrote:Never going to happen. Mexicans believe in border enforcement against illegals.
Not really. The southern border is especially porous.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:18 pm
by smackaholic
Martyred wrote:No, I meant grammar, spelling, syntax...

wow
just trying to stay in character, martydale.

GFY

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:51 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
smackaholic wrote:
Martyred wrote:No, I meant grammar, spelling, syntax...

wow
just trying to stay in character, martydale.

GFY

All smack aside, do you have some sort of learning disability? I'm being serious.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:22 pm
by smackaholic
Martyred wrote:
smackaholic wrote:
Martyred wrote:No, I meant grammar, spelling, syntax...

wow
just trying to stay in character, martydale.

GFY

All smack aside, do you have some sort of learning disability? I'm being serious.
yeah, it's called forgetting to proofread.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:29 pm
by Goober McTuber
smackaholic wrote:
Martyred wrote:All smack aside, do you have some sort of learning disability? I'm being serious.
yeah, it's called forgetting to proofread.
On the far left of your keyboard is a key marked Shift. Learn to use it, e. e. cumspot.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:10 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
What about the shift key on the right? :?

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:37 pm
by Goober McTuber
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:What about the shift key on the right? :?
I figured that might be a little harder for him to find. It's actually closer to the middle than it is to the right.

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:43 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
I am not sure he can even spell Shift... hey smacko it looks like this:


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Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:50 pm
by Mikey
Papa Willie wrote:Pack my bags
Don’t be too slow
I should have quit you baby
A long time ago
Left you flat
And split for mexico

Don’t try to stop me
Child, you’re talkin’ too fast
You and your friends babe
You are a thing in my past
You’re much too slow
I’m goin’ to mexico

I’ve got four or five hundred miles to go
Down that southbound highway
’53 studebaker goin’ for broke
I’m pushin’ it night and day
I’ve had enough of your lies
To last a long, long time
You and your mother, babe
You’re like a nursery rhyme
You’re much too slow
I’m goin’ to mexico

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:11 pm
by mvscal
I certainly haven't noticed any decline. Anyone else in socal notice fewer Mexicans?

Re: Maybe Obama is not doing such a bad job after all....

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:25 pm
by smackaholic
Goober McTuber wrote:
smackaholic wrote:
Martyred wrote:All smack aside, do you have some sort of learning disability? I'm being serious.
yeah, it's called forgetting to proofread.
On the far left of your keyboard is a key marked Shift. Learn to use it, e. e. cumspot.
you mean this thing here? lemme see if it works.

FUKK OFF GOOBS.

well, what do you know. i thought it was just for this%^*$#@().