Are you kiddin' me? Miami..
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:01 am
"millions of dollars, he said his benefits to athletes included but were not limited to cash, prostitutes, entertainment in his multimillion-dollar homes and yacht, paid trips to high-end restaurants and nightclubs, jewelry, bounties for on-field play (including bounties for injuring opposing players), travel and, on one occasion, an abortion."
Actually, one man towers over this story, even though he's only briefly mentioned: Former Miami athletic director Paul Dee.
Dee, you may recall, was the Committee on Infractions chairman for USC's much-publicized case last summer involving former stars Reggie Bush and O.J. Mayo. It was Dee who, in announcing some of the stiffest penalties of the last 20 years (a two-year bowl ban and 30 docked scholarships), closed with the preachy reminder that "high-profile athletes demand high-profile compliance."
Dee, Miami's AD during most of the period covering Shapiro's allegations, is retired and no longer under NCAA jurisdiction. Still, it seems only fair he should spend a day at USC's Heritage Hall wearing a sandwich board with the word "Hypocrite."
See if this sounds familiar: "We didn't have any suspicion that he was doing anything like this. "He didn't do anything to cause concern."
I'm fairly certain I heard Pete Carroll say something to that effect, repeatedly, about Bush's time at USC. He insisted there's no way he or anyone else at the school could have known that Bush's parents were living the high life in San Diego -- a defense Dee and his committee sharply rebuked.
But no, those were the words of Dee himself, Tuesday, to the Palm Beach Post, in regards to Shapiro's allegations. Seriously. The same guy whose committee lamented the access outsiders had to the Trojans' locker room and sidelines also told the Post that, " [Shapiro] would come by, ask to go out to practice and we would send one of our staffers to accompany him."
You can't make this stuff up.
i get your frustrations. not with the board, in general. i teach at Colorado....not as a fan or sports fan but professionally speaking, I could easily get on board with getting rid of D-1 sports altogether if the goal was academic integrity. but, the goal isn't academic integrity, even in academics. so, i absolve myself of that problem. i've been a college football and OU fan since i was 4. but, i've seen plagiarism swept under the rug, heard rumors of really bad stuff. CU is actually pretty standup about a lot of stuff. i imagine it's much worse other places. when it's your job and the double-standard is evident and it happens in our life....you want to call bullshit. no matter how many times you've spent 10 hours on Saturday surfing the couch switching back and forth between games with a case of beer and empty pizza boxes.Go Coogs' wrote: For instance, look at this board. This is a great college football board of real fans, but most people here are more interested in taking jabs at their alma mater's rival than talking real Xs and Os. What the fuck is that? I thought we were talking about football, not scandelous coaches and recruiting violations.
haha offseason, for the realz. if you're really interested, coogs, i'll start posting all the insight i get forwarded to me about michigan football: the lineman are huge, the backs all look a step quicker, the defense is really getting after it, the coaches are pushing all the right buttons, the whole team's buying in, the fifth-year bust is really going to turn a corner this year, that is if the freshman stud doesn't take his starting job even though he's really going to redshirt, the linebacking corps is especially deep this year though we won't mention that's because we've converted several failed safeties to sam, etc.King Crimson wrote:as far as jabs, a lot of us have been pissing on each other (as rivals) for a long time. you ever read the T1B NFL board? here's a quick summary:
you have a bleeding vag
NO, you have a bleeding vag
no, YOU have a bleeding vag
AFC West circle jerk of hate, inna mix.
ad infinitum.
:?Go Coogs' wrote:Can we just move on from this era and get back to football, set conferences, and true National Champions.
Didn't he retire?SoCalTrjn wrote:USC will be punished for this and nothing will happen to Miami, Paul Dee will see to it, especially since he is the head of the NCAA Committee of Infractions board and was at Miami during much of this crap.
Being an SID has got to be one of the shittiest jobs in all of sports. People think its all glamorous but I bet your boy is going to have a shitty few months.MuchoBulls wrote:The SID at Miami, Chris Freet, was quoted in that article. He was the SID here before he went to Miami. I asked him how bad this is and he said it's a 10 on a scale of 1-10.
It's not a glamorous job at all and this can only make it that much worse.Screw_Michigan wrote:Being an SID has got to be one of the shittiest jobs in all of sports. People think its all glamorous but I bet your boy is going to have a shitty few months.MuchoBulls wrote:The SID at Miami, Chris Freet, was quoted in that article. He was the SID here before he went to Miami. I asked him how bad this is and he said it's a 10 on a scale of 1-10.
Shut the fuck up, you harpie bitch.SoCalTrjn wrote:USC will be punished for this and nothing will happen to Miami, Paul Dee will see to it, especially since he is the head of the NCAA Committee of Infractions board and was at Miami during much of this crap.
How is Paul Dee going to hold USC to their punishment and not hold himself and the school he was part of accountable as well? It doesnt matter how, the NCAA isn't concerned with things like fairness or precedent. They just want to make sure that the good ole boy schools dance around the rules while schools where the fan base has all their teeth get hammered.
I think Sports Illustrated said it best
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... topstories
Actually, one man towers over this story, even though he's only briefly mentioned: Former Miami athletic director Paul Dee.
Dee, you may recall, was the Committee on Infractions chairman for USC's much-publicized case last summer involving former stars Reggie Bush and O.J. Mayo. It was Dee who, in announcing some of the stiffest penalties of the last 20 years (a two-year bowl ban and 30 docked scholarships), closed with the preachy reminder that "high-profile athletes demand high-profile compliance."
Dee, Miami's AD during most of the period covering Shapiro's allegations, is retired and no longer under NCAA jurisdiction. Still, it seems only fair he should spend a day at USC's Heritage Hall wearing a sandwich board with the word "Hypocrite."
See if this sounds familiar: "We didn't have any suspicion that he was doing anything like this. "He didn't do anything to cause concern."
I'm fairly certain I heard Pete Carroll say something to that effect, repeatedly, about Bush's time at USC. He insisted there's no way he or anyone else at the school could have known that Bush's parents were living the high life in San Diego -- a defense Dee and his committee sharply rebuked.
But no, those were the words of Dee himself, Tuesday, to the Palm Beach Post, in regards to Shapiro's allegations. Seriously. The same guy whose committee lamented the access outsiders had to the Trojans' locker room and sidelines also told the Post that, " [Shapiro] would come by, ask to go out to practice and we would send one of our staffers to accompany him."
You can't make this stuff up.
I'm not comparing the two forums, because I know the NFL board is a big time AFC West circle jerk with repeated shots at Paul. Shit is stale. I like this forum and I love to go to B-dubs on Saturdays and drink with my friends who are alums of different schools taking in all the action. We have an LSU grad, an Arkansas grad, a Penn St. grad, an OU grad, and a Texas grad. And then there is me. My school is usually playing on the black and white tv with rabbit ears in the corner of the bar.King Crimson wrote:i as far as jabs, a lot of us have been pissing on each other (as rivals) for a long time. you ever read the T1B NFL board? here's a quick summary:
you have a bleeding vag
NO, you have a bleeding vag
no, YOU have a bleeding vag
AFC West circle jerk of hate, inna mix.
ad infinitum.
Not at a rate like this. The last three offseasons I've seen more scandals come out than any other time period with exception to the late 80s early 90s.IndyFrisco wrote:C'''o,o''g's',
It's the offseason. This shit happens every offseason.
The 80's and 90's didn't have cell phones, cell phone pictures/video, twitter, etc.Go Coogs' wrote:Not at a rate like this. The last three offseasons I've seen more scandals come out than any other time period with exception to the late 80s early 90s.IndyFrisco wrote:C'''o,o''g's',
It's the offseason. This shit happens every offseason.
Sorry. You said, "get back to football, set conferences, and true National Champions", so I thought you meant get back to poll champions.Go Coogs' wrote:To Goobs: true National Champions means playoff.
guess i should be glad the freep put out such a hit piece on michigan. all we got busted for was stretching. figure they (er, yahoo sports) are done with us for awhile now. if we'd come up in turn everyone would know about the dead hookers stashed in bo's locked office.Sudden Sam wrote:Looks like every school will be on probation before the season starts!
Vandy, Rice, and Northwestern are excepted.
That would be all the hairy Jew gash.Sudden Sam wrote:I wondered what that stench was in Ann Arbor.
Skull's face after a night with Erin McQueenSudden Sam wrote: I wondered what that stench was in Ann Arbor.
Always up for an Erin McQuinn reset.Killian wrote:Skull's face after a night with Erin McQueenSudden Sam wrote: I wondered what that stench was in Ann Arbor.
Dear Sam,Sudden Sam wrote:Dear Nick,Papa Willie wrote: Ooops: http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... mi-booster
Fire them both today.
Sin,
SS
You can tell from that 1/2"x1/2" photo? :?IndyFrisco wrote:
She turned into a hottie.
that kind of shit may go on at other schools, but not at the university of Nebraska my friend. The Nebraska football program is about as clean as clean gets, Dr. Tom runs a fine program, always has.Papa Willie wrote:Like I've always said, folks - they're all doing it. What we're seeing now might be the beginning of a major blowup - where just about every school gets busted.
The news on Tuesday hit like a ton of bricks. The allegations were staggering as a former University of Miami booster detailed a laundry list of violations that stretched far and wide through the Hurricane athletic program.
You will excuse USC Trojan fans if they are still picking their jaws up off the floor after reading all the sordid details because, you see, the man in charge of the Miami athletic department at the time all this was happening (Paul Dee) is the same man who sat in judgment of the Trojans in the Reggie Bush/OJ Mayo case.
It was Dee who led the NCAA Committee on Infractions as they handed USC the stiffest sanctions since the SMU death penalty. It was Dee who said he was “troubled” by the campus atmosphere at USC and that “high profile players deserve high profile compliance.”
To have Paul Dee now be at the center of these latest charges is beyond outrageous to Trojan fans, and who can blame them?
It’s amazing to think that at the time Dee was wagging his finger at USC, and speaking condescendingly about the wrongs that had been committed, he was allowing a rogue booster to run unchecked in the very department he led.
And I hope Mr. Dee doesn’t try to hide behind any claims of naivete because this isn’t his first rodeo. Remember the Pell Grant scandal that hit the Canes in the 80’s? Trojan fans do. Guess who was in charge of the athletic department then -- Paul Dee. With his inactions in this latest case Dee takes the NCAA term “repeat violator” to a whole new level.
It’s amazing to think that Dee’s response to these latest charges, in an interview with the Palm Beach Post, is to refer to former booster Shapiro as a “very interested fan” and to claim “we didn’t have any suspicion that he was doing anything like this.”
Really?
Dee told USC that they “should have known” about the potential for violations with Reggie Bush. Perhaps Dee should have known that Shapiro arranged for prostitutes for players, gave them cash and threw parties for them at his home and on his yacht. Perhaps he should have known about Shapiro’s role in an agency that represented former Canes. At the very least Dee should have known that Shapiro was getting out of control when the booster angrily confronted a Miami compliance official in the press box at a home football game.
Dee banned USC boosters from the Trojan sidelines because they....well, I read the entire USC sanctions report against Bush and I still can’t find any violations connected to a Trojan booster. He hammered the USC football program for violations that involved one player and a man who had no connection to the university. Shapiro claims to have extended benefits to 72 former Miami players and at one point his donations to the athletic department were so significant that it resulted in his name being placed on the Hurricane student-athlete lounge.
This situation stinks. It stinks a lot. NCAA president Mark Emmert recently held a summit where he pledged to get tough on violators, to make penalties stiff enough that member schools and personnel don’t want to take the risk of wrongdoing. Well, Mr. Emmert, here is case number one, time for you to go to work.
One of the first things Emmert should do is place a call to USC athletic director Pat Haden. The same Pat Haden who is an impeccable example of everything Emmert claims he wants a student-athlete to be. The same Pat Haden who has spent the past year bending over backwards to be compliant to the NCAA, even while some members of his own Trojan Family have criticized him for not taking a more aggressive stance against the harsh penalties which were handed down to USC.
Haden has tried to do right by Emmert and the NCAA, now it’s time for Emmert to return the favor. For the sake of USC, for the sake of college football, this matter needs to be addressed and it needs to be addressed soon. Anything less would make a mockery of an already ugly situation.