T1B

NFC

East
Philadelphia 11-5
Dallas 10-6
Washington 7-9
NY Giants 7-9

North
Detroit 11-5
Chicago 10-6
Green Bay 9-7
Minnesota 4-12

South
New Orleans 12-4
Tampa Bay 10-6
Atlanta 10-6
Carolina 5-11

West
St. Louis 9-7
Arizona 8-8
San Francisco 6-10
Seattle 4-12

Wildcards: Dallas, Tampa Bay

Championship: New Orleans over Detroit




AFC

East
NY Jets 11-5
New England 9-7
Miami 6-10
Buffalo 6-10

North
Pittsburgh 11-5
Baltimore 10-6
Cincinnati 6-10
Cleveland 3-13

South
Indianapolis 9-7
Houston 9-7
Jacksonville 7-9
Tennessee 6-10

West
San Diego 10-6
Oakland 9-7
Denver 6-10
Kansas City 5-11

Wildcards: Baltimore, Oakland

Championship: NY Jets over San Diego



Super Bowl: New Orleans over NY Jets

pop, don't pump the Lions tires too much...the Packers are still the class of that division but they could challenge the Bears for 2nd. They don't have a running game but Stafford is really making strides. No doubt they'll be able to get after the QB...Brady was under pressure most of the night and that was without Vanden Bosch and Fairley.

I've got them for 8-8 but look out for them in 2012!

They came on strong at the end of last season - winning their last 4 - and giving up just 15 pts a game in the process.
Teams that finish strong (but are out of the playoffs) sometimes end up making a strong push the next season.

Detroit has a solid up-and-coming QB and a defensive front (led by Suh) that can get after it.

In the NFL, there is usually a team-or-two that rise up and surprise.

Yeah, it might be a longshot call, but this is just for kicks, anyway.


Go Lions!


Get on the bandwagon, Paul.

Green Bay in 3rd place in the NFC North?!? They won the fucking Superbowl with 15 players on IR.

It's a new season.

They 'only' went 10-6 last year.
Yes, yes, they rolled through the playoffs.

Their schedule is not that easy.
I think the Lions will be 2 challenging games - and also 2 with the Bears, who won 11 games last year.

They play the Saints, who I think will be good.
The play @Atlanta and @NY Giants.


Go ahead and make your own predictions.

poptart wrote:Go ahead and make your own predictions.

The amount of crack you smoke (Oak makes the playoffs and yet NE does not?) will cause you to meet an early death. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, brotha...

A homer prediction is a homer prediction, ucant.

As I look at Oakland now, they look like the kind of team that will be involved in a lot of 30-27 type games.


I'm not sure I like NE's skill players all that much - aside from T. Brady.

Will they be a playoff team?

They might be.
I picked them 9-7.



Go ahead and post your own predictions.

AFC East:
New York
New England*
Miami
Buffalo

AFC North:
Pittsburgh
Baltimore*
Cleveland
Cincy

AFC South:
Houston
Indy
Jacksonville
Tennessee

AFC West:
San Diego
Kansas City
Oakland
Denver

-------------
NFC East:
Philly
Dallas*
New York Giants
Washington

NFC North:
Green Bay
Detroit
Minnesota
Chicago

NFC South:
Atlanta
New Orleans*
Tampa Bay
Carolina

NFC West:
Arizona
St. Louis
Seattle
San Francisco

*Wildcard

AFC Playoffs:
Houston beats Baltimore
New England beats San Diego

New York beats New England
Pittsburgh beats Houston

Pittsburgh beats New York

NFC Playoffs:
Dallas beats Arizona
Green Bay beats New Orleans

Atlanta beats Green Bay
Philly beats Dallas

Atlanta beats Philly

Superbowl:
Pittsburgh beats Atlanta

BigBen gets hammered and faceplants a communter van with his bicycle.

Jsc810 wrote:From what I've heard New Orleans had a good off season, and even though there was the lock out, they were practicing as a team on their own. The players think they have another shot at the SB and are going for it. Complete homer, but sure I'll pick them.

Yeah, they added some key pieces on the defensive line and Ingram and Sproles will bolster that backfield whilst giving Brees options. The only concern is that secondary. Unless they get constant pressure on the QB, teams like Green Bay will beat them.

Jsc810 wrote: they were practicing as a team on their own.

There isn't a coach in the league who thinks that means jack squat.

Scott wrote:Raiders - hahahahahahahahaha - could be the worst defense in the league

Oakland's D-Coordinator.





What could possibly go wrong?

AFC
East
*New England
*N.Y. Jets
Bills
Dolphins

North
*Pittsburgh
*Baltimore
Cleveland
Cincinnati

South
*Houston
Indianapolis
Tennessee
Jacksonville

West
*San Diego
Kansas City
Oakland
Denver

Playoffs
Wild Card: Jets over Texans, Chargers over Ravens
Divisional: Jets over Patriots, Steelers over Chargers
Conference Championship: Jets over Steelers


NFC
East
*Philadelphia
*N.Y. Giants
Dallas
Washington

North
*Green Bay
Chicago
Detroit
Minnesota

South
*Atlanta
*New Orleans
Tampa Bay
Carolina

West
*St. Louis
Arizona
Seattle
San Francisco

Playoffs
Wild Card: Saints over Rams, Falcons over Giants
Divisional: Eagles over Falcons, Packers over Saints
Conference Championship: Packers over Eagles


SUPER BOWL XLIV
Packers over Jets
MVP: Aaron Rodgers

AFC East

NY Jets (13-3)- Greene could have an incredible year, and they are suffocating on defense still
*Patriots (9-7)- most overrated team in football ....they can't cover anyone.
Bills (6-10) - won't be much better this year and Chan Gailey could be fired
Dolphins (4-12) Sprarano will get whacked too. The idea of giving full time reigns to Bush makes me LMAO.

AFC North

Ravens (11-5) - I'd be worried about how the aging defense lets up late in the year, but I think that they will get over beating the Steelers this year.
*Steelers (10-6) will contend this year but the post Super Bowl hangover could affect them some.
Browns (6-10) - should suck dick again
Bengals (3-13) - Lots of growing pains. Benson can't do it all.

AFC South

Texans (11-5) Add JJ Watt and Wade Phillips to the defense and that will pay huge dividends. Finally, a playoff appearance
Colts (8-8) - Still a soft defense and Caldwell gets exposed as a tard more and more with each year.
Jaguars (6-10)- Del Rio will get fired.
Titans (5-11) - complete turnover here, don't expect much. This division sucks.


AFC West

Chargers (12-4) under the radar team in the AFC starts off strong and keeps it going and really finds a good running game this season
Chiefs (9-7) I think they will contend just on the running game alone.
Broncos (5-11) McDaniels really fucked this organization up. Too many questions, old as balls secondary. Five wins at the most.
Raiders (4-12) In for a long disappointing year with a new coach and counting on Campbell to lead them to glory. They are going to blow.


NFC East

Cowboys (12-4) nobody is talking about this team and that's how they like it. Finished strong last year and will explode with Dez and Romo plus a dynamic running game and Rob Ryan leading the defense.
*Eagles (12-4) almost as good as the Cowboys but the Boys will edge them out. Romo is just more of a proven winner than Vick and the Cowboys have more experience and a shored up offensive line.
Giants (8-8) Looks like it iwll be an up and down year for them. Still a quality d-line and running game.
Redskins (4-12) in the cellar again with not any talent on offense.

NFC North

Packers (13-3) I think they will be even better this year but they need for Grant to be healthy and Starks not to be a fluke.
Vikings (9-7) will be better than people think. Defense will rebound, Peterson will have a great year.
Bears (6-10) this is an odd year so the Bears will suck. That's just how it is with the Bears. Lovie Smith is so inconsistant.
Lions (5-11) people are jacking off over them this year because they are staring at that d-line and dismissing the shit behind it. Oh, and Stafford is always hurt and they have no running backs. Tell me again why they will surprise?

NFC South

Bucanneers (12-4) I have a really good feeling about them this season with all the youth and how they were ahead of schedule last year.
*Falcons (11-5) Julio Jones will be a beast this year and the Falcons should be a playoff team.
Saints (9-7) Not seeing much from them this season. Will disappoint.
Panthers (3-13) they could conceivably get the #1 overall pick with Newton having a bad year, and be tempted to draft Luck

NFC West

49ers (8-8) They are going to get it done this year since Singletard isn't there. Mark my words.
Rams (7-9) another team like the Lions that people are jacking their dicks to. No receivers and an inexperienced defense.
Cardinals (6-10) will suck as much as last year.
Seattle (4-12) huge drop-off after that fluke division win. Seahawks blow.


AFC title game- Chargers over Jets
NFC title game- Cowboys over Eagles

Super Bowl XLVI- Cowboys 37, Chargers 24

PHI 12-4 NYJ 12-4
NYG 10-6 NE 11-5
DAL 7-9 MIA 7-9
WSH 5-11 BUF 5-11

GB 10-6 PIT 11-5
CHI 8-8 BAL 9-7
MIN 7-9 CLE 6-10
DET 5-11 CIN 2-14

NO 13-3 IND 10-6
ATL 12-4 HOU 8-8
TB 10-6 JAX 8-8
CAR 3-13 TEN 4-12

AZ 10-6 SD 11-5
STL 9-7 OAK 8-8
SF 8-8 KC 6-10
SEA 5-11 DEN 4-12

NYG over GB SD over BAL
ATL over AZ NE over IND

NO over NYG SD over PIT
PHI over ATL NYJ over NE

NO over PHI NYJ over SD

SUPERBOWL XLVI:

NY JETS - 23
NO SAINTS - 13

AFC East
*Patriots (12-4) Ready for a rebound
*NY Jets (11-5) Pound the ball & have a tough D
Bills (6-10) Rinse & repeat last year
Dolphins (4-12) Lame duck coaches & south beach aren't a good mix for the players

AFC North
*Ravens (12-4) - Ready to step up this season
*Steelers (10-6) Oline stinks = not much running room & a QB running for his life in big games
Browns (6-10) slight improvement
Bengals (4-12) Not sure how Marvin Lewis is able to keep his job

AFC South
*Texans (10-6) Peyton Manning on retirement road will be enough for this team to finally get over
Titans (5-11) 2nd place in this division doesn't mean much
Jaguars (4-12) Del Rio finds another way to deflate his team
Colts (3-13) The resurrection on Kerry "the statue" Collins won't be a crowd pleaser (winner of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes)

AFC West
*Chargers (12-4) Always performs better in odd number years, Not being hyped up by the media is a plus for this team
Chiefs (9-7) Tougher schedule will have Todd Haley crying & pointing fingers again
Broncos (6-10) John Fox will run the ball more & improve the defense
Raiduhs (5-11) The more things change the more they stay the same


NFC East
*Eagles (11-5) Vick & the offense will be in many a shoot out, questionable Oline & LBs
*Cowboys (10-6) The circus that is the Dallas Cowboys is always a detriment
Giants (8-8) Sheli loves to throw picks, defense taking a step back too
Redskins (6-10) Rex Grossman & John Beck? Shanny must be delusional entering a season with these two stiffs

NFC North
*Packers (12-4) The creme rises to the top, Mccarthy also rising to the top of current HCs.
Lions (9-7) Not a lot of pressure on them & they are having fun, that'll mean something in November & December
Vikings (8-8) Oline holds them back, as will Rice's departure
Bears (6-10) Another team with a putrid Oline and a QB that chucks it up for grabs the more he gets hit

NFC South
*Falcons (13-3) Well built team without a lot of weaknesses
*Saints (11-5) Defense looks a little shaky
Bucanneers (9-7) Not going to sneak up on anyone this season
Panthers (4-12) Probably a mistake to throw Newton to the wolves right off the bat

NFC West
*Rams 9-7) Hard not to like how they're putting this team together
Seattle (7-9) Just not enough talent, over achieved last year
Cardinals (6-10) Kolb will realize the Cards oline isn't any better than Phillys was last year
49ers (5-9) Alex Smith is a natural to be the headless horseman on Halloween, another frightful season ahead


AFC title game- Chargers over Ravens
NFC title game- Falcons over Packers

Super Bowl XLVI- Chargers 31 Falcons 28

Joe in PB wrote:49ers (5-9)

The less I see of the Niners, the better. RACK!

The HORSECOCKS will own the 'Bode T1B FFL.

AFC

North

Steelers - Still the class of the division. Getting old on defense, though
Ravens* - Still chasing. Getting old on defense, too.
Browns - Seem to be heading in the right direction.
Bengals - A total fucking mess. How Marv Lewis has still has a job is a total mystery.

South

Texans - Somebody has to win this shit division.
Jaguars - Axing his starting QB right before the season worked out for Del Rio last time.
Titans - In rebuilding mode.
Colts - No Manning, no dice. The team is pure garbage without him.

East

Jets - Will be a tough out again.
Patriots* - Not sure they did enough to improve on defense. Still dangerous, though.
Dolphins - A solid defense should be enough for 3rd place.
Bills - Who gives a fuck? Seriously.

West

Chargers - Will NOT meltdown on special teams this year and will roll.
Chiefs - Dangerous running game, but an asshat for a coach.
Raiders - Another dangerous running game but it won't matter since they'll be playing from behind.
Broncos - Shit sandwich. Dumervil's return will help but they're soft in the middle.

NFC

North

Packers - Will be even better.
Bears - Will drop off from last year but still good enough for 2nd place.
Vikings - Not quite in freefall but teetering on the edge.
Lions - Sorry, not buying the hype around this team.

South

Falcons - All systems go. Should repeat as division champs.
Bucs* - Nice young team and I think they'll make a push this year.
Saints - Defense is fading fast but Brees gives them a puncher's chance.
Panthers - May not be as completely fucked up as people think but they will suck and are in a brutal division.

East

Eagles - Totally overrated and overhyped. Will disintegrate in the playoffs.
Giants* - Can run the ball and play defense. Good for 2nd.
Cowboys - For once they aren't overrated or overhyped. They just suck and everyone knows it.
Redskins - Rex Grossman, huh? Good luck with that.

West

Rams - Maybe a year away from making some noise but headed in the right direction.
Cardinals - Kolb should help. He certainly can't be worse than the slappies they had last year.
Seahawks - Could surprise but I doubt it. Way too many question marks.
Niners - Will take the 1st overall pick next year and finally close the books on the Alex Smith Error.

Championships

Jets v Chargers
Packers v Falcons

Superbowl

Chargers over Packers

mvscal wrote: Eagles - Totally overrated and overhyped. Will disintegrate in the playoffs

This team wasn't even hyped till your boy Vince Young used the magical words "dream team"

The term wouldn't have come up without the hype, dumbass.

AFC East: The Pats are still the class of the division despite the Jets bluster (mainly from their coach) that they're the class of the NFL. The Jets do have quite a bit of talent on D but I am still in the Sanchez non-believer camp. Jets better not need to comeback from a deficit. The Dolphins are much better than most give them credit for. The D is solid and they do have a few playmakers on O. Henne is no Brady but I think he's got more going for him than given credit for and I expect a decent year from him. There's always a team nobody expects to do anything going into the year that makes the playoffs and I thought about going with the Phins as that team, but playing in the same division as the Pats and Jets meant I either had to take 3 playoff teams from here or leave a "big boy" out of the mix. So no Miami. Buffalo continues to be a tire fire.

Pats
Jets*
Dolphins
Bills

AFC North: Just like there's always a team nobody expects anything from that makes the playoffs, there's also always a team everyone thinks will be a SB contender that shits the bed. I gave serious consideration to that bed crapper being either Pitt or Balt. Both because they're aging on D, Pitt because of the whole "SB runner-up hangover" trend and Balt because Joe Flacco is still their QB. In the end I think both teams have enough positives to offset their negatives. Cleveland is improving but still has a long way to go and I don't think McCoy is the real. Cincy is actually pretty frisky on D, finally got a new OC and has quite a bit of talent on the offensive side of the ball. But it's all very young talent.

Ravens
Steelers*
Browns
Bengals

AFC South: This was an easy auto-fill division for the Colts at the top until Manning went down. With him out the division is wide open for subpar teams and underachievers to actually win. I hesitantly give the nod to the Texans. The team I think will surprise is the Titans. They have elite playmakers in Johnson and Britt and I think Hasselback is still a capable game manager. Their D is solid enough to keep them in games and then a heavy dose of CJ I can see a 10-6 type season out of them. The Jags are a still birth baby.

Texans
Titans
Colts
Jags

AFC West: Or as it should be called San Diego and the other 3 teams. Despite dealing with the obstacle known as head coach Norv Turner I think SD puts it all together for the #1 seed in the AFC. The Chiefs come back to earth a bit after last year when all the breaks went their way but they're still respectable. The Raiders continue to be the Raiders and the Broncos were having a QB "battle" between Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow. Nuff said.

Chargers
Chiefs
Raiders
Broncos

Steelers over Texans
Ravens over Jets

Pats over Steelers
Chargers over Ravens

Pats over Chargers

NFC East: Here we go, the time for the team everyone thinks is a SB contender to shit the bed. Last year that team also resided in the NFC East in the person of the Dallas Cowboys. This year the bed crappers are the Philly Eagles. Lots of media hype early magnifies every single loss (the Eagles have a tough opening schedule) and the magnification begins after a week 1 loss to STL. Too many cooks in the kitchen leads to some inner team squawking and finger pointing. Finally you have the fragile health of too many offensive playmakers (Vick's history says he won't play 16, Jackson is a twig, Maclin has already had issues) leading to a less than full strength squad. Sorry Iggles, 9-7 doesn't cut it. Dallas has enough going for them with a revamped D philosophy and enough playmakers on O to overcome a shaky O-line. The G-Men were in a prime spot until their D was decimated by injury. I think another Giants defender got hurt while I typed this. Washington remains a mess. Seriously Rex Grossman and John Beck?

Cowboys
Eagles
Giants
Redskins

NFC North: Green Bay is far and away the class of this division. The Bears come back to reality this year, the Lions are improving but not there just yet and Minnesota will be dangerous but no threat to the Pack. Getting McNabb into a dome for half his games is big and with AP in the backfield I think the Vikes can contend for a wildcard. Contend but not win. Detroit might flirt with a winning year this year which continues the upward trend but they aren't a playoff team just yet.

Packers
Vikings
Lions
Bears

NFC South: Or as it could be called The Best Division in Football plus the Panthers. There are 3 legit SB contending caliber teams here, so yes I'm sold on the Bucs. Of course they'll beat each other up some but they'll also feast on the Panthers and get the AFC South. Carolina wins the Andrew Luck lottery the year after taking Cam Newton.

Saints
Falcons*
Bucs*
Panthers

NFC West: Again the toilet division of the NFL. Also the division where the team nobody expects anything from makes the playoffs. Much easier to do when 8-8 gets you there. The Rams are the trendy pick to make the move in this crap division and there is a lot to like about them. But trendy picks often don't work out and I see that happening here. Many think Kolb suddenly solves all the issues in Arizona. Really? Kevin Kolb? Not buying it. Then you have the 49ers. Last year they were the popular pick to come out of the crappy division, and they promptly fell on their faces. This year everyone is writing them off. Despite the single biggest upgrade in the NFL: Coach Harbaugh for Coach Singletary. Their D took a small step back but is still solid. They still have Gore in the backfield and a better than you realize receiving corps with Davis, Edwards and Crabtree. Yes they do still have Alex Smith under center but if they didn't then they wouldn't be the team nobody expects anything from now would they?

49ers
Rams
Cardinals
Seahawks

Falcons over 49ers
Cowboys over Bucs

Packers over Falcons
Saints over Cowboys

Packers over Saints

SB: Packers over Patriots

2011 prediction
Denver will still suck, just not quite as bad as last year

Go Coogs' wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:From what I've heard New Orleans had a good off season, and even though there was the lock out, they were practicing as a team on their own. The players think they have another shot at the SB and are going for it. Complete homer, but sure I'll pick them.

Yeah, they added some key pieces on the defensive line and Ingram and Sproles will bolster that backfield whilst giving Brees options. The only concern is that secondary. Unless they get constant pressure on the QB, teams like Green Bay will beat them.

What's up.

mvscal wrote:
Chargers over Packers

whats this, a blot fan predicting the a charger win in the superbowl?!?!?!?!

whoulda thunk....

sd has talent, but not enough talent to win the conference....the patsies will represent the afc against Green Bay....and the pack will defend their championship

Felix wrote:sd has talent, but not enough talent to win the conference....

They had enough talent last year to lead the league in both total offense and total defense. They're in even better shape this year. So yes, they have more than enough talent to win it all.

Spit the dick out of your mouth and start paying attention.

mvscal wrote:
They had enough talent last year to lead the league in both total offense and total defense. They're in even better shape this year. So yes, they have more than enough talent to win it all.

san deeggo is the epitome of "can't close the deal"
great individual talent that for some reason always finds a way to self immolate....your team is as close right now to a super bowl win as they'll be at the end of the season...bank on it

So what you're really saying is that they do have the talent they just haven't been able to win a championship yet for whatever reason. Of course they say that about every talented team until they win and then it seems a pretty stupid thing to say in retrospect.

I assume you remember the days of the Donks being the old "epitome of can't close the deal"?

Felix wrote: san deeggo is the epitome of "can't close the deal"

I remember when many said the same about Elway & the Broncos.

EDIT - Mvscal beat me to it.

mvscal wrote:So what you're really saying is that they do have the talent

of course they have talent....every team in the NFL has talent...they have more than some, but less than others....

Of course they say that about every talented team until they win and then it seems a pretty stupid thing to say in retrospect.

dude, you predict superbowl appearances for the blots almost every year....the last time they won an afc championship was 1994....seems like pretty stupid fucking predictions in retrospect don't they

Shine has done the best with his predictions.
He called 6 division winners correct, and he correctly identified 7 playoff teams.

He called a GB over NE Super Bowl - so he's still alive with that one, also.

Joe: 4 div. winners, 7 playoff
Jerkoff: 4,7
Shoalz: 3,8
Scott: 3,7
mvscal: 2,7
Kaley: 2,7
Rumps: 2,7
pops: 1,4



One of my favorite takes from the thread.

mvscal wrote:Niners - Will take the 1st overall pick next year and finally close the books on the Alex Smith Error.

Mv has been self-high-fiving over his correct take that Tebow would be a legit NFL QB.
But... well, this speaks for itself.

:grin:

and once again, the eggos fuck the dog when they should have won the division handily

6th best offense overall
16th best defense overall

they come out of a bye week and proceed to chernobyl, losing 6 in a row....three of those should have been easy wins for the blots...

this is the pattern with the chargers, they have all the skill players necessary to make it deep into the playoffs, but there always seems to be a point in the season when they begin playing not to lose instead of playing to win.....in terms of skills, rivers is a half step below elite tier level of qb, but his decision making at critical points in a game is his biggest downfall...just makes stupid and unnecessary mistakes....

Turner is imho a pretty good coach and from what I've read, AJ Smith seems to be a decent GM-but obviously there is something that ain't working in that pairing...

^^^^^^^^^^
This.

Funny how a single play can not only change the fortunes of a single game, but for an entire season....

When that happened, I said "Are you kidding me?" And then Jon Gruden said, "Are you kidding me?" A bad memory burned into my mind forever.

Smith is not a good GM. He let Seau, Harrison, Turner, Sproles, LT, Brees, etc etc etc go. Smith is an asshole too.

trev wrote:LT

LT was never on the Chargers. LT played for the New York football Giants. Lilly Tomlinson was pretty much "done" when she signed with the Jest. She had a good year in 2010 because her carries were limited. This year she resumed sucking major as as she did in 08 and 09. She will retire in the coming months.

It is so easy to be miles off on NFL predictions considering how much a team can improve/regress each year...

I shorted the 49ers...thought Harbaugh would struggle in his first year but he was great out of the blocks.
I bought in like a sucker to the Jets and Eagles' hype.
I really thought the Rams would break out in the NFC West with Bradford in his second season...notsamuch.
The Chargers were pretty much my "they will win their division by default" pick.

At least I had the Packers though...

trev wrote:Smith is not a good GM. He let Seau

way too expensive for what he had left

Harrison

don't know what he was asking for...besides, he was a druggy

Turner

obviously not the greatest move, but certainly not the worst thing a GM has ever orchestrated.....but he gave Gates a shot when he went undrafted, so seems like kind of a wash there.....

Sproles

big mistake, but I question how much of that was Smith and how much was Norv

LT

see Seau

Brees

brees got hurt and maybe they thought Rivers was a better fit....

Smith is an asshole too.

he looks like kind of an asshole....

Felix wrote:

Sproles

big mistake, but I question how much of that was Smith and how much was Norv

It was financial. They had paid Sproles a fuck ton of cash over the previous two seasons. Something like 13 million which is an awful lot for a third down back.

The problem this year wasn't a lack of explosiveness out of the backfield. Mike Tolbert has turned into an excellent receiver. The problem was poor defense and a series of mental errors by Rivers that cost the team 4 games.

poptart wrote:One of my favorite takes from the thread.

mvscal wrote:Niners - Will take the 1st overall pick next year and finally close the books on the Alex Smith Error.

Green Bay's 3rd place in the NFC North finish says what?

As far as the Niners are concerned, I underestimated how shitty a coach Mike Singletary really was and I thought he was one of the most ludicrous, idiotic morons to ever stalk a sideline.

Shine wrote:Then you have the 49ers. Last year they were the popular pick to come out of the crappy division, and they promptly fell on their faces. This year everyone is writing them off. Despite the single biggest upgrade in the NFL: Coach Harbaugh for Coach Singletary. Their D took a small step back but is still solid. They still have Gore in the backfield and a better than you realize receiving corps with Davis, Edwards and Crabtree. Yes they do still have Alex Smith under center but if they didn't then they wouldn't be the team nobody expects anything from now would they?

Feeling very good about that take right about now.