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does it bother you that when you were in school they taught you the whitewashed version of columbus' history?

Does it bother you that you swallowed revisionist bullshit whole without even a shred of critical evaluation. Columbus' voyage was a watershed event in Western history. So, yes, it absolutely deserves to be celebrated.

You wouldn't be the whimpering sack of shit that you are today without it.

Careful mv...you don't want to upset any "civil rights icons" reading this thread.

mvscal wrote: You wouldn't be the whimpering sack of shit that you are today without it.

mvscal wrote:Does it bother you that you swallowed revisionist bullshit whole without even a shred of critical evaluation. Columbus' voyage was a watershed event in Western history. So, yes, it absolutely deserves to be celebrated.

You wouldn't be the whimpering sack of shit that you are today without it.

so that's a "no"

Don't know where you went to school, but I was never taught a "white washed version" of Columbus' expedition or the Spanish colonization of the New World.

It's not like the Aztecs were choir boys. It was one imperial power against another and the Spanish won. That's life in the big city.

mvscal wrote:Don't know where you went to school, but I was never taught a "white washed version" of Columbus' expedition or the Spanish colonization of the New World.

It's not like the Aztecs were choir boys. It was one imperial power against another and the Spanish won. That's life in the big city.

we celebrate a slaver every october.

happy guy who took slaves to spain day. big reason for a holiday.

Bizzarofelice wrote:

mvscal wrote:Don't know where you went to school, but I was never taught a "white washed version" of Columbus' expedition or the Spanish colonization of the New World.

It's not like the Aztecs were choir boys. It was one imperial power against another and the Spanish won. That's life in the big city.

we celebrate a slaver every october.

Every February, too. Whoopdee fukkin doo

that's now "president's day"

or are you tsalking about blak history month?

Bizzarofelice wrote:that's now "president's day"

Which presidents?

The Muslim ones.


It smells like Pepto Bismol in my house, and I don't know why.

Bizzarofelice wrote:or are you tsalking about blak history month?

I thought he was talking about Valentine's Day? I'm a slave to love.

It's like Cinco de Mayo, but for Wops.

Bizzarofelice wrote:or are you tsalking about blak history month?

I work twice as hard every martin luther king day.

Bizzarofelice wrote:or are you tsalking about blak history month?

where' vic with that cartoon about "Niggggers get a whole month!"?

Roach wrote:Sure I learned in 2nd grade about how Columbus and his motley crew brought smallpox, measles, influenza, bubonic plague, diphtheria, typhus, cholera, scarlet fever, chicken pox, yellow fever, and whooping cough to the Americas. Gotta clear the way for the great race. And get their gold.

And that he was the one of the earliest signs of Manifest Destiny. Later the colonists in the New England area used small pox infected blankets to clear the wilderness. Mere amateurs compared to Chris.

Same where I live now, except my grand dad just pointed a gun at them and they settled elsewhere.

More horseshit.

mvscal wrote:
More horseshit.

Take it to the OWS thread.

No doubt. Just for the record, germ theory wasn't validated until the late 19th century, so the notion of Spanish and English colonists deliberately using diseases as some kind of early biological warfare is totally asinine. It was an unintended consequence.

The biggest killer of the Aztecs and other central American indians wasn't even smallpox in any event. There were outbreaks of smallpox (and let's not pretend that Europeans were immune to it either), but the largest epidemics were some sort of indigenous hemorrhagic fever which was described in detail by Spanish doctors but remains unidentified. The outbreaks of this fever in 1545 and 1576 were some of the most virulent and deadly plagues in recorded history. They wiped out over 2/3rds of the native population.

I aways thought the biggest killer of Aztecs and other Indian Tribes were... Aztecs and other Indian Tribes

mvscal wrote:Does it bother you that you swallowed revisionist bullshit whole without even a shred of critical evaluation.

Don't know about you, but when I was a little kid, they taught me that Columbus discovered America. So yeah, there was some whitewashing going on there, or at a bare minimum, a clearly erroneous view of history.

Columbus' voyage was a watershed event in Western history. So, yes, it absolutely deserves to be celebrated.

This may surprise you, but I actually agree with you on this point. Throw in the fact that, at least in my neck of the woods, Columbus Day is usually the last holiday before the weather takes a decided turn for the worse, and yeah, I'm voting to keep it.

People should celebrate Columbus Day every time they look at their dinner plate. Corn, tomatoes, potatoes, most beans, squash, chili peppers, chocolate and vanilla were all part of the Columbian Exchange.

Cuda wrote:I aways thought the biggest killer of Aztecs and other Indian Tribes were... Aztecs and other Indian Tribes

That's right. I know because I watched Apocalypto. Twice.

Terry in Crapchester wrote: Don't know about you, but when I was a little kid, they taught me that Columbus discovered America. So yeah, there was some whitewashing going on there, or at a bare minimum, a clearly erroneous view of history.

It wasn't whitewashing or erroneous.

Columbus discovered the new world for euros. They did not know it was there. They thought they'd find china.

What about the Vikings? Weren't they Euros?

Vikings were shitting on North American police cars centuries before Rudy Ravioli showed up.

Van wrote:What about the Vikings? Weren't they Euros?

I think they discovered Canada. Who cares?

Mikey wrote:

Van wrote:What about the Vikings? Weren't they Euros?

I think they discovered Canada. Who cares?

I hope your face discovers powder burns.

Van wrote:What about the Vikings? Weren't they Euros?

The Viking explorations were forgotten by their own people and had zero influence on future events. It was Columbus who opened up the New World to exploration/exploitation. It literally changed the entire world.

mvscal wrote:

Van wrote:What about the Vikings? Weren't they Euros?

The Viking explorations were forgotten by their own people and had zero influence on future events. It was Columbus who opened up the New World to exploration/exploitation. It literally changed the entire world.

what he said.

They settled greenland, back when it was green. then a cold spell hit, probably because people weren't driving enough SUVs yet. Greenland became the cold miserable uninhabitable place it is today, so they went home.

Well, they also made it past Greenland, all the way to eastern Canada. Then again, maybe they're partly to blame for Marty, plus they never did win a Super Bowl, so fuck 'em.

there were no sweet, sweet slaves to gather so the Vikings didn't see much use for the land.

Van wrote:Well, they also made it past Greenland, all the way to eastern Canada. Then again, maybe they're partly to blame for Marty, plus they never did win a Super Bowl, so fuck 'em.

so, they made it to newfie and maybe nova scotia. big whoop! bottom line is, they decided canada was teh suck ( a little ahead of the curve on that one) and decided to take their raping and pillaging back to euroland.

At least they had the good sense to shit-can Tarvaris Jackson.

No doubt many a Viking dick got wet with one of these...

Bjorn got busy with this...

Martyred wrote:No doubt many a Viking dick got wet with one of these...

... and 9 months later...

smackaholic wrote:bottom line is, they decided canada was teh suck ( a little ahead of the curve on that one) and decided to take their raping and pillaging back to euroland.

A legacy of smorgasbord and plankstek with mash would be tough to live down.

Martyred wrote:Bjorn got busy with this...

some jewish chick in an indian outfit?

titlover wrote:
some jewish chick in an indian outfit?

Why not?
I'm okay with that.