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Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:15 am
by Left Seater
There is a pretty cool flight tracking web site that lets you keep track of all your flights. It keeps the statistics, airports, planes, etc and will then draw them on a map. I have been keeping stats on this for a few years now and have both a personal and work page.

I just wish the lines on the map would be drawn thicker the more you fly that one route.

Looks something like this:

http://my.flightmemory.com/davidm

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:57 am
by Cuda
I've found flightaware.com to be less than 100% accurate

well, OK, less than 50% accurate, but who's counting?

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:14 am
by Left Seater
Cuda, Flightaware is delayed by the government. Data is at least 15 minutes old. But this isn't that type of site. It tracks your time in the air.

The work time in the air would blow you away if you think this is a lot of time in the air.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:26 pm
by Left Seater
No we don't get to break out the Garmin or TomTom and just go. However since we fly above most commercial traffic we do get plenty of fly direct to xxxxx. Recently on a trip from our base in Sugar Land to Santa Fe we went direct after about five minutes. This is mostly due to the elevation we fly at with little conflicting traffic.

On the commercial side, Southwest and Alaska are doing some cool things. They have the money to invest in such programs and as such will further cut their costs and travel time for us. Take for example Philadelphia. PHL has four runways, three going the same direction and one shorter cross wind runway. One of the three is the primary departure and another is the primary arrival runway. Southwest came in and asked why no one was using the shorter crosswind runway. The airport said there was no reason. So Southwest now asks for this runway when it makes sense, since it is shorter it isn't suitable for all departures but is fine for all their landings. Southwest worked with their pilots and Boeing and put together special procedures for departing this runway. The end result was a Southwest flight could leave the gate and be in the air in 5 minutes versus a 25 minute wait for the primary runway. If you compaired a Southwest flight to Providence to the same flight on USAirways you would see USAirways taking twenty minutes longer. The sad thing about this is USAirways is trying to use noise to force Southwest to stop using this crosswind runway instead of using it themselves.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:13 pm
by Atomic Punk
Left Seater wrote:Cuda, Flightaware is delayed by the government. Data is at least 15 minutes old. But this isn't that type of site. It tracks your time in the air.

The work time in the air would blow you away if you think this is a lot of time in the air.
Yeah, I'm watching the 7 am AA flight from FYI to DFW. Flightaware gives you gate info and I've passed it on to pax cell phones since DFW is a pain in the ass once on the ground. They even have sectional maps that show the progress. But you're right, it is time delayed.

You know what else is intentionally given an error by the US Govt? GPS info. They put in an error so ICBM's from other countries would have a built in error for the CEP. It's always 3 yards off and re-entry for ICMB warheads won't hit their targets unless they are using US military data.

SWA is pretty bold for doing that and the B737 when light can land in about any condition. I will never get on a US Airways fly by wire jet as I've seen one about out of control on takeoff out of NY La Guardia. I thought that aircraft was going to auger in.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:19 pm
by Imus
AP will the impending day light savings time change affect your wake and bake drinking time in the mornings? Or does it matter anymore what time it is?

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:58 pm
by Atomic Punk
Dude, why do you troll? I thought you were someone else and somebody here told me who you are. So why use a troll? Why not post under your regular shit posting nic when taking stupid and sophomoronic shots at posters that slam dunk you on a regular basis. I haven't trolled in years because it is boring.

Seriously admins, if a troll is funny then okay, but why not consider banning the retards that use these shit trolls and even their main nics if they keep at it? It's almost demeaning to even respond to this shit.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:32 pm
by BSmack
Atomic Punk wrote:Dude, why do you troll? I thought you were someone else and somebody here told me who you are. So why use a troll? Why not post under your regular shit posting nic when taking stupid and sophomoronic shots at posters that slam dunk you on a regular basis. I haven't trolled in years because it is boring.

Seriously admins, if a troll is funny then okay, but why not consider banning the retards that use these shit trolls and even their main nics if they keep at it? It's almost demeaning to even respond to this shit.
You're worried about demeaning yourself?

Should have thought of that a LONG time ago.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:39 pm
by Dinsdale
BSmack wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:Dude, why do you troll? I thought you were someone else and somebody here told me who you are. So why use a troll? Why not post under your regular shit posting nic when taking stupid and sophomoronic shots at posters that slam dunk you on a regular basis. I haven't trolled in years because it is boring.

Seriously admins, if a troll is funny then okay, but why not consider banning the retards that use these shit trolls and even their main nics if they keep at it? It's almost demeaning to even respond to this shit.
You're worried about demeaning yourself?

Should have thought of that a LONG time ago.

The guy who constantly tries (very poorly) to play the "I know who this troll is" game is worried about demeaning himself.

Well ain't that just funnier than a fat alky prancing around in panties.


If that were any more ironic, none of us would have wrinkles in our clothes.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:43 pm
by jiminphilly
Left Seater wrote: Take for example Philadelphia. PHL has four runways, three going the same direction and one shorter cross wind runway. One of the three is the primary departure and another is the primary arrival runway. Southwest came in and asked why no one was using the shorter crosswind runway. The airport said there was no reason. So Southwest now asks for this runway when it makes sense, since it is shorter it isn't suitable for all departures but is fine for all their landings. Southwest worked with their pilots and Boeing and put together special procedures for departing this runway. The end result was a Southwest flight could leave the gate and be in the air in 5 minutes versus a 25 minute wait for the primary runway. If you compaired a Southwest flight to Providence to the same flight on USAirways you would see USAirways taking twenty minutes longer. The sad thing about this is USAirways is trying to use noise to force Southwest to stop using this crosswind runway instead of using it themselves.
I flight to DFW from Philly 3-4 times a year. I'll remember that when I'm booking my trips.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:44 pm
by Left Seater
Southwest can't help you for another three years on the Philly to Dallas route. Little thing called the Wright Amendment was Congress' attempt backed by Braniff and the cities for Dallas and Ft Worth to kill startup Southwest back in the 70's. Of course it didn't work, but it doesn't completely expire for another few years. Until then you are stuck in the 20 deep lineup to depart Philly on USAirways or AA.

The continuous decent approach Southwest and Alaska are working on out west is really pretty cool too. At top of descent the goal is to not touch the throttles again until touchdown. This takes coordinated efforts from both the airline and approach to do successfully. Currently approach issues clearances to descend to a certain altitude. To descend the throttles are brought to flight idle in many cases, and the pilots trade altitude for thrust. But if they reach their new assigned altitude before a new clearance is issued then the throttles go back up to maintain that altitude. Approach will also often give minimum or maximum speeds to pilots on approach to maintain spacing. This often leads pilots to have to drop flaps or gear to unnecessary levels to meet the speed restriction.

CDA, continuous descent approach, will allow the pilots to put the throttles in flight idle and not have to move them again till touchdown.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:12 pm
by Atomic Punk
Left Seater wrote: Currently approach issues clearances to descend to a certain altitude. To descend the throttles are brought to flight idle in many cases, and the pilots trade altitude for thrust. But if they reach their new assigned altitude before a new clearance is issued then the throttles go back up to maintain that altitude. Approach will also often give minimum or maximum speeds to pilots on approach to maintain spacing. This often leads pilots to have to drop flaps or gear to unnecessary levels to meet the speed restriction.

CDA, continuous descent approach, will allow the pilots to put the throttles in flight idle and not have to move them again till touchdown.
I get "buddy" passes to fly on AA due to my old roommate who has flown with AA for 12 years. My last flight to JFK I stopped at DFW on that 7 AM flight out of FYI.

The pilots in the MD-88 or 93? I forget dropped the gear, flaps and spoilers. You almost get sick to your stomach with the turbulence. They tend to use the left 2 runways for landings and the right 2 for take-offs at DFW.

Hey BSmacked, yes it is even demeaning to even read one of your worthless and pointless posts even back at TNW where you had that Cartman avatard in a Steelers uni. You've sucked then and still bring your low-quality takes about nothing here.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:27 pm
by jiminphilly
Left Seater wrote:Southwest can't help you for another three years on the Philly to Dallas route.

Can they fly into Dallas-Love? I normally book through an internal site at work so I never really check out that option.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:47 pm
by Atomic Punk
A buddy of mine flies for SWA.

Check this link out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:16 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
Atomic Punk wrote:A buddy of mine flies for SWA.

Check this link out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines

Is there anything specific you want to address in that wiki link or do really think someone is going to read the whole damned thing and respond to every paragraph? I mean seriously... do you have a point?

Your buddy flies for SWA and SWA has a wiki link. Epic. Thanks, bro.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:20 pm
by Left Seater
Yes southwest can get you to Love Field. They don't and won't go to DFW. The Wright Amendment prevents them from flying nonstop to Philly from Dallas. You have to go to St Louis or Houston first.

AP not sure how long it's been since you have been to DFW but they have 5 parallel runways now. 17L and 17C are mostly used for landings on the East side of the field, while 18R and 13R are mostly used for landings on the West side of the field. 17R and 18L are primarily used for departures. These two are the closest to the terminals so departures don't have to cross the active landing runway.

Meanwhile taxiways P and M have been extended south and now landing aircraft don't have to cross 17R to reach the terminal.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:20 pm
by Goober McTuber
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:A buddy of mine flies for SWA.

Check this link out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines

Is there anything specific you want to address in that wiki link or do really think someone is going to read the whole damned thing and respond to every paragraph? I mean seriously... do you have a point?

Your buddy flies for SWA and SWA has a wiki link. Epic. Thanks, bro.
You clicked on an AP link? :lol:

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:41 pm
by Atomic Punk
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:A buddy of mine flies for SWA.

Check this link out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Airlines

Is there anything specific you want to address in that wiki link or do really think someone is going to read the whole damned thing and respond to every paragraph? I mean seriously... do you have a point?

Your buddy flies for SWA and SWA has a wiki link. Epic. Thanks, bro.
You know this is basically a time waster site correct? I'll bet you are polishing your head right about now. Jim (not you ucunt) asked about flights to and from Dallas - Love
to Philly. The link I've provided explains the history of SWA or stock (LUV) out of Texas. The Wright Amendment is described towards the beginning of the content of the link. If you're too stupid (and of course you are) to read to that point in the article, then that tells me you are a complete oxygen thief... depriving your neighbors of breathable air.

To shutyomouth, the nuclear guys from White Sands, NM would show up once a year for in-service training. We got to watch all of those tired tactical and strategic nuclear explosions from airburst, ground and underground detonations.

Our government puts in a minimum of 3 yards of GPS error. So if a country wants to launch ICBM's at us with that built in error, the chances of the warheads hitting their target from re-entry in space is not going to work out so well for the Gooks or Ragheads.

During bombing runs at low level there is a term called CEP (circle of error probability). CEP is a big factor for tactical bombing runs meaning that 50% of your bombs have the probability of hitting a target within a 20 yard distance. Now the military has no error built in to GPS receivers, so we would have a better chance at hitting a target.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:53 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:Is there anything specific you want to address in that wiki link or do really think someone is going to read the whole damned thing and respond to every paragraph? I mean seriously... do you have a point?

Your buddy flies for SWA and SWA has a wiki link. Epic. Thanks, bro.
I know a guy who works for Coke.

Check out this link, bro.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca_cola

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:08 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Hey bro's, I know a dude named sixdickburrito...

Here's a link. Check it out.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:08 am
by jiminphilly
Rack MGO and Marty.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:31 am
by Atomic Punk
Left Seater wrote:Yes southwest can get you to Love Field. They don't and won't go to DFW. The Wright Amendment prevents them from flying nonstop to Philly from Dallas. You have to go to St Louis or Houston first.

AP not sure how long it's been since you have been to DFW but they have 5 parallel runways now. 17L and 17C are mostly used for landings on the East side of the field, while 18R and 13R are mostly used for landings on the West side of the field. 17R and 18L are primarily used for departures. These two are the closest to the terminals so departures don't have to cross the active landing runway.

Meanwhile taxiways P and M have been extended south and now landing aircraft don't have to cross 17R to reach the terminal.
Wow! Someone finally figured it out! I haven't been to DFW since 2003 or 2004. The tram system seemed to be always broke and I've learned to just run between the 3 terminals.

I just got off the phone with my buddy that flies for AA and he goes through DFW at least a few times/month. That's the same guy that would give me "seat time" in the B-200's. I talked to the AA pilots and they said those planes have such high aspect ratio's and the spacing pretty much makes them "dirty up" the plane 15 nm out. It's like being in a dropped rock with wings.

It must be nice flying those business jets over 40,000 ft on direct routes as the controllers save the lower airspace for commercial traffic and everyone else has to fly above or below.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:20 am
by Left Seater
It's not so much that they are assigned those altitudes as they can't climb as high as we can. The G5 wing is just awesome. You have prolly been on a flight that started off in the mid 30's and then after burning off some fuel, was able to climb to a higher altitude. Happens all the time with the Airbus A340, since it is so under powered.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:30 am
by Cuda
Left Seater wrote:Cuda, Flightaware is delayed by the government. Data is at least 15 minutes old. But this isn't that type of site.
.
I wasn't talking about how old the data was, I was talking about how inaccurate it is. I've made IFR flights that don't show up at all.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:41 am
by poptart
AP wrote:Dude, why do you troll? I thought you were someone else and somebody here told me who you are.
lol

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:54 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
Atomic Punk wrote:Jim (not you ucunt) asked about flights to and from Dallas - Love to Philly.
Exactly, you complete fucking imbecile.
Atomic Punk wrote:The link I've provided explains the history of SWA or stock (LUV) out of Texas.
:facepalm:

See what I am saying? Nowhere does it state that a flight exists from Philly to Dallas-Love. Correct?

But, hey, your buddy works for SWA too... just in case we were wondering.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:04 pm
by Atomic Punk
ucunt, why do you insist on posting especially in threads where you don't know the subject matter (which is most)? You are big time idiot that insists on trying to make yourself look intelligent when the opposite effect happens.

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:47 pm
by Imus
Now is IKWYABWAI an acronym and what does it mean?

Re: Flight Tracking Web Site

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:31 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
Atomic Punk wrote:You are big time idiot that insists on trying to make yourself look intelligent when the opposite effect happens.
Au contraire, mon frère... see, a buddy of mine is a Rhode Scholar. Therefore, I am all set.

Check out their website: www.atleastiamnotap.org