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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:26 pm
by The Assassin
Dude benefitted from being surrounded by Mulder,Hudson,and co. Hes Frank Viola. He had one good year,and everyone expects him to be great. Maybe if Zito gets out of Oakland he'll regain his form. But right now he looks VERY overrated.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:41 pm
by The Assassin
R-Jack wrote:The problem with him is when he gets right, he's more dominating than either of them, but that is only in spurts.
Between young arms not able to go nine innings yet and Zito's early flameouts, these relivers are going to have their arms falling off by the All-Star break.
Whats the deal with new ownership? Are they getting a new stadium there? Because the rumblings of them moving to Vegas are starting up here again.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:59 pm
by Adelpiero
A's
future is bright. the 3 players they got from cards will be factors on team for years. Braves players as well. They have stud young pitchers ready, and some more on way.
Zito will settle down, its still early
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:04 pm
by The Assassin
R-Jack wrote:Any rumors of Vegas are started by the people of Vegas. Just like in the South Bay.
Lew Wolff gave a bunch of non-answer in a recent interview, but they are looking for a new venue in Oakland. A big problem is the lack of quality real estate along BART lines.
More like our mayor. He keeps promising that Vegas will have a MLB franchise by 2008. Despite the fact there are no plans to build a stadium,the land they keep saying would be the spot to build one this week was designated to be the spot for the new city hall,and a performing arts center.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:57 pm
by Dinsdale
The Assassin wrote: He had one good year
As a favor, could you tell me which was his "one good year"?
2000 OAK 14 14 7 4 0 1 1 92.2 64 30 28 6 45 78 2.72 1.18 .195
2001 OAK 35 35 17 8 0 3 2 214.1 184 92 83 18 80 205 3.49 1.23 .230
2002 OAK 35 35 23 5 0 1 0 229.1 182 79 70 24 78 182 2.75 1.13 .218
2003 OAK 35 35 14 12 0 4 1 231.2 186 98 85 19 88 146 3.30 1.18 .219
2004 OAK 34 34 11 11 0 0 0 213.0 216 116 106 28 81 163 4.48 1.39 .263
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:05 pm
by Adelpiero
baeball in vegas is idiotic
it would go up there with these genius decisions:
1. Florida would be a great place for Major League Baseball(sincerely 10K fans for ws title run)
2. Florida is a great place for NHL
PS: retirees on fixed budgets don't pay $1500+ for season tickets
Sin,
Marlins and Devil Rays
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:23 pm
by Funkywhiteboy
Adelpiero wrote:baeball in vegas is idiotic
it would go up there with these genius decisions:
1. Florida would be a great place for Major League Baseball(sincerely 10K fans for ws title run)
2. Florida is a great place for NHL
One of the all-time genius decisions:
3. Montreal can be a great baseball town. :P
WAR The Nationals!
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:45 pm
by The Assassin
Dinsdale wrote:The Assassin wrote: He had one good year
As a favor, could you tell me which was his "one good year"?
2000 OAK 14 14 7 4 0 1 1 92.2 64 30 28 6 45 78 2.72 1.18 .195
2001 OAK 35 35 17 8 0 3 2 214.1 184 92 83 18 80 205 3.49 1.23 .230
2002 OAK 35 35 23 5 0 1 0 229.1 182 79 70 24 78 182 2.75 1.13 .218
2003 OAK 35 35 14 12 0 4 1 231.2 186 98 85 19 88 146 3.30 1.18 .219
2004 OAK 34 34 11 11 0 0 0 213.0 216 116 106 28 81 163 4.48 1.39 .263
2002. When he went 23-5
:wink:
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:46 pm
by The Assassin
Adelpiero wrote:baeball in vegas is idiotic
it would go up there with these genius decisions:
1. Florida would be a great place for Major League Baseball(sincerely 10K fans for ws title run)
2. Florida is a great place for NHL
PS: retirees on fixed budgets don't pay $1500+ for season tickets
Sin,
Marlins and Devil Rays
PRO Sports in Vegas is idiotic. Granted they sold out the Cub Mariner exhibition games. BUT!!!!
Lets put the Devil Rays vs the Tigers here,and see how well it draws.
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:23 am
by AnNeg
Back to the original topic..... like I said before the departure of 2 of the big 3 is baring it's big ugly teeth. However, I see the Moneyball theory as sort of a recurring cycle, and this just happens to be a "rebuilding" year in the cycle. Sure the Athletics might finish last but in the grand scheme of things they're just working themselves back up after exchanging what they didn't have the resources to keep for something they can develop. I know eventually one or two of either Blanton, Haren or Harden is going to end up somewhere else once they get too good to keep, but then the cycle would just repeat itself again.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:12 am
by Cross Traffic
How are the A's going to build a stadium when they can't draw fans to the ballpark. No wonder they have so many day games, the area around the Coliseum is a dump.