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Where's RGIII?

Amazing...somehow he missed out on the Unitas Award too.

Must be racism.

Jsc810 wrote:How could they not include LSU's punter??

he had to punt outside of the 'Bama game this year?

No Honey Badger? And where's Matt Kalil? The guy is supposedly going to be the #2 pick in the NFL draft, he's kicked ass all season, and he's not on this team?

Van wrote: And where's Matt Kalil? The guy is supposedly going to be the #2 pick in the NFL draft, he's kicked ass all season, and he's not on this team?

You cheat... do you think the world has forgotten about this ?





You do know why you're not playing in a bowl game... right ?

All dressed up and no place to go... enjoy.

Ouch...

Looks like "the truth" is the only thing to get "Vannie's" tongue tied...






Cal does it the "right" way...




... and an "Academic All-American... with an "Engineering degree"... Mychal Kendricks...



This isn't Oregon ... where 95 % of all applicants are accepted.


Cal is the # 1 University in the World... when it comes to graduate degrees offered...


Oh yeah... it's also ranked #2 in the World... in academia ... http://www.arwu.org/







Congrats... Mychal Kendricks !!!


PAC 12 Defensive Player of the Year... 2011

no cal or iowa player on those teams? i call bullshit

M2 wrote: Oh yeah... it's also ranked #2 in the World... in academia ... http://www.arwu.org/

I found this claim to be incredulous, especially when you consider the existence of institutions like MIT, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, etc....

not to piss on your one man parade but here's a different ranking system and according to this cal isn't even in the top 20...

http://www.usnews.com/education/worlds- ... -the-world

here's one where they're ranked 10th
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/w ... p-400.html

if I were to look around long enough, I could probably find one where they were ranked #1....so, it really depends on what the criteria for rating the quality of a university....but their have been 4 Fields medalists come from Cal (as many as any other university) which is a pretty amazing achievement for a public university....

and congrats to any and all academic all Americans, that takes some serious dedication

Felix wrote:

M2 wrote: Oh yeah... it's also ranked #2 in the World... in academia ... http://www.arwu.org/

I found this claim to be incredulous, especially when you consider the existence of institutions like MIT, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, etc....

not to piss on your one man parade but here's a different ranking system and according to this cal isn't even in the top 20...

http://www.usnews.com/education/worlds- ... -the-world

but congrats to any and all academic all Americans, that takes some serious dedication

Psst.. shit for brains

US News was found to to favor private schools in their survey and even accepted the claims of U$C's business school which was found to be fraudulent.

Tell me... retard... how many of the top 20 schools in the US News are from private schools and aren't paid by said schools for their ranking ???

You do know why you live in Idaho... right ???

Felix wrote:if I were to look around long enough, I could probably find one where they were ranked #1....so, it really depends on what the criteria for rating the quality of a university....but their have been 4 Fields medalists come from Cal (as many as any other university) which is a pretty amazing achievement for a public university....

Psst... shit for brains

The University of California, Berkeley (also referred to as UC Berkeley, Berkeley, California or simply Cal), is a teaching and research university established in 1868 and located in Berkeley, California, USA. Berkeley is widely considered one of the most prestigious and selective universities in the world.[5] Among its honors and accomplishments, Berkeley faculty, alumni, and researchers have won 70 Nobel Prizes, 9 Wolf Prizes, 7 Fields Medals, 15 Turing Awards, 45[6] MacArthur Fellowships, 20 Academy Awards, and 11 Pulitzer Prizes. To date, UC Berkeley and its researchers are associated with 6 chemical elements of the periodic table (Californium, Seaborgium, Berkelium, Einsteinium, Fermium, Lawrencium) and Berkeley Lab has discovered 16 chemical elements in total – more than any other university in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University ... ,_Berkeley

M2 wrote: Psst... shit for brains

look dude, I don't really give a shit about Cal in any sense whatsoever...but citing some rating system (Shanghai rating) as proof that a university you jock is the greatest learning center on the face of the planet is stupid.....

but if you want to believe that, knock yourself out

Adelpiero wrote:no cal or iowa player on those teams? i call bullshit

They're on the Elite All-America team. It's not fair to compare any of the other players in the country to the Bear/Hawkeye players, or expect them to measure up to that level of play.

Mikey wrote:Where's RGIII?

Amazing...somehow he missed out on the Unitas Award too.

Must be racism.

So, Luck got the Walter Camp Award too.

This racism is gtting out of hand.

Jsc810 wrote:How could they not include LSU's punter??

Because he's so dominant, even LSU's "fans" don't know his name?

JSC, you generally exude idiocy every time you post about BTPCFB, but this is over the top...


LSU's punter (his name is Brad Wing) was a lofty #26 in the country in punting.

Idiot.


For myself, the absence of Matt Kalil and Honey Badger renders this list laughable. Could two players have stood out any more at their respective positions?

Dinsdale wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:How could they not include LSU's punter??

Because he's so dominant, even LSU's "fans" don't know his name?

JSC, you generally exude idiocy every time you post about BTPCFB, but this is over the top...


LSU's punter (his name is Brad Wing) was a lofty #26 in the country in punting.

Idiot.


For myself, the absence of Matt Kalil and Honey Badger renders this list laughable. Could two players have stood out any more at their respective positions?

The Walter Camp AA team seems to be in agreement with you. Funny how both of these teams are supposedly voted on by the coaches but the results are different. I guess Camp includes ADs.


2011 Walter Camp All-America Teams

First Team Offense

Pos. Name, School Class Hometown Height Weight

QB Andrew Luck, Stanford # Sr. Houston, TX 6-4 235
RB LaMichael James, Oregon * Jr. Texarkana, TX 5-9 195
RB Trent Richardson, Alabama Jr. Pensacola, FL 5-11 224
WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State * Jr. Ardmore, OK 6-1 215
WR Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma * Sr. Norman, OK 5-10 188
TE Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame Jr. Fort Wayne, IN 6-6 249
OL David DeCastro, Stanford Sr. Bellevue, WA 6-5 310
OL Barrett Jones, Alabama Jr. Memphis, TN 6-5 311
OL Matt Kalil, USC Jr. Corona, CA 6-7 295
OL Jonathan Martin, Stanford Sr. Los Angeles, CA 6-6 304
C David Molk, Michigan Sr. Lemont, IL 6-2 286
PK Randy Bullock, Texas A&M Sr. Klein, TX 5-9 212

First Team Defense

DL Whitney Mercilus, Illinois Jr. Akron, OH 6-4 265
DL Devon Still, Penn State Sr. Wilmington, DE 6-5 310
DL Melvin Ingram, South Carolina Sr. Hamlet, NC 6-2 276
DL Jerel Worthy, Michigan State Jr. Huber Heights, OH 6-3 310
LB Luke Kuechly, Boston College * Jr. Cincinnati, OH 6-3 237
LB Dont’a Hightower, Alabama Jr. Lewisburg, TN 6-4 260
LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia Soph. Columbus, GA 6-3 241
DB Morris Claiborne, LSU Jr. Shreveport, LA 6-0 185
DB Mark Barron, Alabama Sr. Mobile, AL 6-2 218
DB Tyrann Mathieu, LSU Soph. New Orleans, LA 5-9 175
DB David Amerson, North Carolina State Soph. Greensboro, NC 6-3 194
P Shawn Powell, Florida State Sr. Rome, GA 6-4 235
KR Tyler Lockett, Kansas State Fr. Tulsa, OK 5-11 170

Dinsdale wrote:For myself, the absence of Matt Kalil and Honey Badger renders this list laughable. Could two players have stood out any more at their respective positions?

Exactly.

Dinsdale wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:How could they not include LSU's punter??

Because he's so dominant, even LSU's "fans" don't know his name?

JSC, you generally exude idiocy every time you post about BTPCFB, but this is over the top...


LSU's punter (his name is Brad Wing) was a lofty #26 in the country in punting.

Idiot.

Wing was named the punter on the AP All American team, idiot. Stick to defending pedos.

How? The guy probably only had to punt ten times all year, and nine of 'em were against Bama.

Wing did indeed have the lowest return average.

And even with that, still didn't have the best net punt average, although he was third.

Oregon's Jackson Rice being one of the guys ahead of him.

That's only because the few times LSU ever punted, it was from their opponent's thirty-nine yard line.

Jsc810 wrote:Wing's punts may not be the longest in the country, but I would be very surprised if there is a punter in all of football that has a lower yards per return than he does.

So you're saying the punt coverage team should get the honor?

But you've only seen twelve! Okay, thirteen, since you also saw Oregon's.

I have no doubt he's a good punter, but take everything he did this year and put him in a Kentucky uniform, and he doesn't even sniff this accolade.

And put most Heisman winners on a losing team and they're no longer Heisman winners. Horrible arguments all over this thread.

Most Heisman winners are quarterbacks, and if they're leading a 4-8 football team, they probably aren't very good. The best punter could play for anybody. The 2011 Ray Guy Award was given to the punter at Louisiana Tech.

Bunch of homos arguing punters?

Python wrote:Horrible arguments all over this thread.

Mine have been stellar.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Most Heisman winners are quarterbacks, and if they're leading a 4-8 football team, they probably aren't very good.

And they wouldn't be Heisman winners. See how that works? You guys need to face it, Wing is an All American punter because he deserves it. The anti SEC homers are strong around here.

Python wrote:Horrible arguments all over this thread.

Agreed. Here's an example:

Python wrote:And put most Heisman winners on a losing team and they're no longer Heisman winners.

... less than a week after the Heisman winner came from...

Baylor.

Fucking BAYLOR.

Maybe you should get those SEC/LSU balls out of your mouth, back up, and take another run at explaining why Wing gets the nod over statistically superior punters.

It's not like punting is subjective, and is about the only position that isn't -- we can argue about who's better, Griffen or Luck, Richardson or Ball... different teams, different offenses, different opportunities...

Punters? They can be substantiated with a few buttons on the calculator...

And Wing, while an excellent punter, clearly wasn't the best (although he was damn close).

But one of the things having SEC balls in your mouth seems to obscure the view of, is the fact you have SEC balls in your mouth.

And BTW, Py -- sometimes, there comes a point in a debate where it's time to just STFU, lick your wounds, and walk away gracefully.

Python wrote:You guys need to face it, Wing is an All American punter because he deserves it. The anti SEC homers are strong around here.

Sudden Sam wrote:P - Shawn Powell, Florida State

Mikey wrote:P Shawn Powell, Florida State Sr. Rome, GA 6-4 235

Or were we talking about the "Python's Personal All-American Team"?


Actually, we were talking about JSC, for the umpteenth time, having the SEC/LSU balls so firmly planted in his throat that he wasn't able to see what an idiot he was...

And along comes his Relief Sucker, hell-bent on proving he can get the SEC Balls halfway through his intestines, and diverts the argument away from why a statistically inferior punter didn't get the AA team just because he played for LSU, to why he did get the AA award.


But yeah, bro -- this is all because we're a bunch of SEC-Haters, and has nothing to do with the LSU Homer contingent having no fucking clue what they're talking about (AGAIN).


Classic.

All that to say you were wrong about Wing to begin with? Ok then. And I don't remember Baylor having a losing record. Looks like you were wrong about that too. Face it, you said Wing wasn't good enough to be an All American and you were dead wrong. And one other thing, all that so called "homo smack" is pretty pathetic. It really makes you look like a teenager trying to argue about something. You should back off for a while.

Python wrote:All that to say you were wrong about Wing to begin with?

I notice you didn't include any sort of quote to back that up... since there isn't one.

Face it, you said Wing wasn't good enough to be an All American and you were dead wrong.

Uhm, actually I was dead-on right. Since he wasn't the best punter, he wasn't good enough to be an All-American, and guess what?

He wasn't an All-American. Not sure which part of that you're struggling with.

And one other thing, all that so called "homo smack" is pretty pathetic. It really makes you look like a teenager trying to argue about something. You should back off for a while.

All these years, and you equate SEC Ball Sucking with "homo smack"?

Your propensity for making stuff up has gotten pretty alarming.

Dinsdale wrote:He wasn't an All-American.

Wow.

Oh wait, that's right. You also said James didn't strangle his girlfriend and Masoli didn't steal a lap top. Nevermind.

If you search enough AA lists, you'll find a flawed one that named the THIRD BEST punter as their AA... obviously an unbiased vote.

Any of the list with any integrity gave the nod to Shawn Powell... since he was the best punter.

Wing wasn't even second-best. Since anyone who voted the third-best punter to recieve the highest honor either didn't follow football, or had some other motivation (catching on yet?), their votes should be dismissed by anyone who has a shred of integrity.

So he IS an All American? Ok, now that we have that straight, would you like to correct your self on Baylor having a losing record? Or James strangling his girlfriend? Or Masoli stealing a lap top? Or a number of other things you constantly get wrong?

Python wrote:Or James strangling his girlfriend?

He did no such thing, Whiner.

If you even knew what the fuck you were talking about (you don't, even though it was explained to you), you'd realize your fatal flaw here... whiner.

Is your only function here to whine?

You should try not being a whiney bitch sometime -- makes the world a little nicer place for everyone, especially you.

Like I said...

Like you said... was nothing.

Why don't you lay out your reasoning why the THIRD BEST punter should be given the highest honor over the two superior punters?

Think hard now.