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wonder what the average life expectancy was for black blues players from the first half of the 20th century? I'll guess around 29.

smackaholic wrote:wonder what the average life expectancy was for black blues players from the first half of the 20th century? I'll guess around 29.

Big Mama Thornton was 57 when she died, you incredible fucking retard.

I had no idea how old she was, nor do I give two fukks. i was just pointing out that old timey blues musicians tended to get dead awfully quickly. making it to 57 makes her the goobs mcfukkstick of early black blues musicians.

OK. So your reply was in no way related to the original post. Thanks for the clarification.

Related?

Sure it was. It's in the same thread and last I checked Big mama was a blues singer and black. And she didn't exactly live to a ripe old age, unless you compare her to black blues singers in general.

So yes, it was related and I was staying more or less on topic by pointing out that the group as a whole tended to get dead, well before their time.

Now let go of my ankle, you bitter old fool.

suckaholic’s idiocy aside, it’s interesting to listen to the Big Mama version, then listen to Janis:



Big Mama’s a bit more soulful, but Janis is unique. Big Mama’s band is a bit tighter than Big Brother, and a bit more bluesy.

Sudden Sam wrote: Apparently heart and liver problems took her from 350 pounds to less than 100 when this video was shot.

Sounds like a diet plan built for shutyomouth.

smackaholic wrote:wonder what the average life expectancy was for black blues players from the first half of the 20th century? I'll guess around 29.

Well off he top of my head...

Lightnin' Hopkins died in 1982 at the tender young age of 70.
Sonny Terry died in 1986 at 75.
Son House died in 1988 at 82.
Big Joe Turner was 74.
John Lee Hooker was 84.
Willie Dixon was 77.
Bo Diddley was 80.
Buddy Guy is still going strong at 75.
BB King is 86.

I could go on. Yeah I guess the average is about 29.

And Hubert Sumlin just passed at the young age of 80.

And The Stones are paying for his funeral.

barbecue bob 1902-1931

son bonds 1909-1947

blind boy fuller 1908-1941

blind lemon jefferson 1893-1929

robert johnson 1911-1938

eddie mapp 1910-1931

ramblin thomas 1902-1945

sonny boy williamson II 1914-1948

OK, the average is a bit higher than 29, but some of the most famous such as robert johnson, blind lemon jefferson and sonny boy williamson II were all pretty close to that age. also, many that you list were not what i would call first half of the 20th century players. they may have been born in the first half, but, did most or all of their playing in the second half.

smackaholic wrote:sonny boy williamson II 1914-1948

I think you mean Sonny Boy Williamson I. SBWII kicked in 1965 and was born in 1912.

smackaholic wrote:barbecue bob 1902-1931

son bonds 1909-1947

blind boy fuller 1908-1941

blind lemon jefferson 1893-1929

robert johnson 1911-1938

eddie mapp 1910-1931

ramblin thomas 1902-1945

sonny boy williamson II 1914-1948

OK, the average is a bit higher than 29, but some of the most famous such as robert johnson, blind lemon jefferson and sonny boy williamson II were all pretty close to that age. also, many that you list were not what i would call first half of the 20th century players. they may have been born in the first half, but, did most or all of their playing in the second half.

Yes, well, I recognize every single name that Mikey mentioned (though he left off Muddy Waters). Your list, not so much so. BTW, Big Mama Thornton lived till the age of 57.

Idiot.

robert johnson is possibly the most famous of the olde timey blues negroes.

yes, dins, i know old timey blues negroes is redundant.

your not recognizing them, does not change the fact that somebody out there thinks they are old timey blues brothers enough to put up a wiki page on it.

another reason you don't recognize them (neither did i) is that old timey blues dudes didn't get much radio run. the more recognizable names that mikey rattled off were relative newcomers. most of them, anyhoo. buddy guy and bb king are definitely bluesmen, but they are not "first half of twentieth century blues players", which, had you the slightest bit of reading comp/memory, you'd recall was what I was talking about. dumbfukk.

one other interesting bit of info.....

if you were an old timey bluegum singer and you had blind somewhere in your name, you was pretty much fuct. the majority of these folk, and there were quite a few, got dead quickly.

BSmack wrote:

smackaholic wrote:sonny boy williamson II 1914-1948

I think you mean Sonny Boy Williamson I. SBWII kicked in 1965 and was born in 1912.

the wiki list i got the info from listen SBW deuce. clicking on the name, however went to a page about the dude you speak of who lived from 12-65 as you say.

as for which one was I and II, I don't know.

neither lived a hell of a long time, though.

smackaholic wrote:
OK, the average is a bit higher than 29, but some of the most famous such as robert johnson, blind lemon jefferson and sonny boy williamson II were all pretty close to that age. also, many that you list were not what i would call first half of the 20th century players. they may have been born in the first half, but, did most or all of their playing in the second half.

You think maybe that's because they were STILL ALIVE in the second half?



They were contemporaries of the ones that died young, they just didn't die young.

Think about this. Really hard.
You think those guys born in 1910 really waited to start playing until they were 40?

smackaholic wrote:one other interesting bit of info.....

if you were an old timey bluegum singer and you had blind somewhere in your name, you was pretty much fuct. the majority of these folk, and there were quite a few, got dead quickly.

Blind Melon Chitlin was still going strong in the 70s. Not sure what happened to him since, though.

Mikey wrote:

smackaholic wrote:
OK, the average is a bit higher than 29, but some of the most famous such as robert johnson, blind lemon jefferson and sonny boy williamson II were all pretty close to that age. also, many that you list were not what i would call first half of the 20th century players. they may have been born in the first half, but, did most or all of their playing in the second half.

You think maybe that's because they were STILL ALIVE in the second half?



They were contemporaries of the ones that died young, they just didn't die young.

Think about this. Really hard.
You think those guys born in 1910 really waited to start playing until they were 40?

that is true of some on your list. others, such as buddy guy are clearly not first half of century artists. they may have been born during that period, but, didn't do anything until the second half.

Mikey wrote:

smackaholic wrote:one other interesting bit of info.....

if you were an old timey bluegum singer and you had blind somewhere in your name, you was pretty much fuct. the majority of these folk, and there were quite a few, got dead quickly.

Blind Melon Chitlin was still going strong in the 70s. Not sure what happened to him since, though.

blind melon chitlin gets my vote for coolest blues musician name evah.

smackaholic wrote:robert johnson is possibly the most famous of the olde timey blues negroes.

yes, dins, i know old timey blues negroes is redundant.

your not recognizing them, does not change the fact that somebody out there thinks they are old timey blues brothers enough to put up a wiki page on it.

Of course I know who Robert Johnson is, you fucking imbecile. I said “I recognize every single name that Mikey mentioned (though he left off Muddy Waters). Your list, not so much so.” Meaning I didn’t recognize every single name on your list. Glad I could spell this out for you. Feel free to put up 3 or 5 consecutive posts in reply.

Of course, this whole discussion started out when your single line response to a post about Big Mama Thornton (who lived to the age of 57, BTW) was that the life expectancy for black blues players from the first half of the 20th century was around 29. Coherency is not your strong suit. Idiot.

You do know that Blind Melon Chitlin was not a real person, right?

Goober McTuber wrote:

smackaholic wrote:robert johnson is possibly the most famous of the olde timey blues negroes.

yes, dins, i know old timey blues negroes is redundant.

your not recognizing them, does not change the fact that somebody out there thinks they are old timey blues brothers enough to put up a wiki page on it.

Of course I know who Robert Johnson is, you fucking imbecile. I said “I recognize every single name that Mikey mentioned (though he left off Muddy Waters). Your list, not so much so.” Meaning I didn’t recognize every single name on your list. Glad I could spell this out for you. Feel free to put up 3 or 5 consecutive posts in reply.

Of course, this whole discussion started out when your single line response to a post about Big Mama Thornton (who lived to the age of 57, BTW) was that the life expectancy for black blues players from the first half of the 20th century was around 29. Coherency is not your strong suit. Idiot.

You do know that Blind Melon Chitlin was not a real person, right?

No, I didn't actually. Never claimed to be much of an early bluegum musician expert as you and mikey appear to be. My very limited knowledge of the topic is that quite a few of these fukks met an early end. Which, I 'spose makes them pretty much like modern day musicians.

So, you win, old man. Your knowledge of old timey blues players exceeds mine. That, or you are just a little quicker to google your statements before posting them, than I am. I will give you the benefit of the doubt on this one though, since you were around when all these fukkers were doing their thing.

I still fukking pwn you in the civics category though.

So, if you are

smackaholic wrote:No, I didn't actually. Never claimed to be much of an early bluegum musician expert as you and mikey appear to be. My very limited knowledge of the topic is that quite a few of these fukks met an early end. Which, I 'spose makes them pretty much like modern day musicians.

So, you win, old man. Your knowledge of old timey blues players exceeds mine.

My knowledge of most subjects exceeds yours, and not by a small amount. A handful of old time blues musicians died young, Robert Johnson being the most prominent, and probably the only one you could have named without using a search engine. A certain portion of the population died young back then, due to the lack of access to medical advances made since then. Of course, a lot of those medical advances are kind of useless when you start messing with another man’s woman.

smackaholic wrote:Never claimed to be much of an early bluegum musician expert as you and mikey appear to be.

Actually, I'm an expert on most things, exept for okra and reality TV.

How are you with Cheech and Chong?

I'm decent on cheech and chong, but, I suspect your hippie ass would clean my clock.

Areas I will battle you:

Civics, of course.
Navy stuff
History
Electronics. I promise you, I will beat you like a rented mule in boolean algebra. Used to be pretty good at olde timey analog stuff, but not so much anymore
Car stuff
General all around manly topics like plumbing, electrical, carpentry.

Areas you would likely kick my ass

Olde timey black folk music
hippy topics
culinary stuff
hot tub maintenance
landscaping
general smarty pants stuff like physics, math chem
gax stuff

smackaholic wrote: Areas I will battle you:

Civics, of course.

smackaholic wrote:Navy stuff

Other Naval experts.

BSmack wrote:

smackaholic wrote:Navy stuff

Other Naval experts.

why they gotta have two squids?

they should have had at least 1 chairforce dude.