T1B

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:27 pm**

Anybody catch this show ? The basic idea is pretty good, but they always get these complete nut jobs to make the tv show. They spend every last dime on that shit, and still probably are not ready. The self proclaimed liberals on there last night refused to arm themselves, because they felt if they banded together as a community they could over come the need to have weapons.

These nuts on the show are no true preppers, but some wannabes...the prepper community is pretty unique and interesting..I am out on the fringes of the preppers, but I can guarantee you I can eat out of my house for at least 3 months, I have a creek for water, wood for heat and lots of ammo for when the city fucks coming looking to rob me of anything, not going to happen.

48 hours of any emergency and the grocery stores are empty, gas stations run dry, and if it is a natural disaster then road and bridge infrastructure is gone too. Fucking anarchy could just be around the corner on any given day.

http://www.oregonpreppersnetwork.com/

http://www.umpquasurvival.com/

http://survivalblog.com/

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:42 pm**

Oh...you said preppers.

Never mind.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:15 pm**

Oh...you said preppers.

Never mind.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:49 am**

wait....PREPPERS???

uggh

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:55 am**

Derron wrote:These nuts on the show

The entire point of the show is to portray preppers as nuts in order to discredit them and make them look like fools.

I mean...the nerve of these people trying to be self-sufficient. Don't they know that the proper course of action in the event of a disaster is to wait for FEMA to come and rescue you?

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:14 am**

mvscal wrote:
Derron wrote:These nuts on the show
The entire point of the show is to portray preppers as nuts in order to discredit them and make them look like fools.

I mean...the nerve of these people trying to be self-sufficient. Don't they know that the proper course of action in the event of a disaster is to wait for FEMA to come and rescue you?

Rack it. Chuck D will be a huge factor when and if there is no "rule of law", but people who have put some thought into this beforehand and taken at least some measures to be self-sufficient, will be the ones who make it.

A few of my friends and I have had campfire discussions about this possibility and most of us are armed pretty darn well, and a few of us to the teeth. Lots of ex-military and survivalist, outdoor types who hunt and fish. I think we will be fine for quite some time if this shit ever goes down.

We've went so far as to discuss how we would all reside in a compound and shoot any trespassers or roving bands of thugs and then hang their bodies on poles a few hundred yards from our perimeter. There would be signs next to them (in English and Spanish) declaring that any uninvited "guests" would find themselves dead and on pole.

Fun conversations!

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:52 am**

H4ever wrote:We've went so far as to discuss how we would all reside in a compound and shoot any trespassers or roving bands of thugs and then hang their bodies on poles a few hundred yards from our perimeter. There would be signs next to them (in English and Spanish) declaring that any uninvited "guests" would find themselves dead and on pole.

Fun conversations!

That's fun? To be perfectly honest it sounds like you are not fit for society. What if some gang with more gunpower than your group decided to hang you up oustide their camp? Did you ever think about it that way?

I'm glad I don't know many of my neighbors well because I don't know if I'd be comfortable knowing what kind of people live around me and my family. This whole thing is far fetched anyway. But it gets all the Rambo types very excited. To each his own.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:01 pm**

Dan Vogel wrote:I'm glad I don't know many of my neighbors well because I don't know if I'd be comfortable knowing what kind of people live around me and my family.

Relax.

Your daughter knows every one of them.

Intimately.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:20 pm**

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:18 pm**

l to r: Derron

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:25 pm**

H4ever wrote: Rack it. Chuck D will be a huge factor when and if there is no "rule of law", but people who have put some thought into this beforehand and taken at least some measures to be self-sufficient, will be the ones who make it.

A few of my friends and I have had campfire discussions about this possibility and most of us are armed pretty darn well, and a few of us to the teeth. Lots of ex-military and survivalist, outdoor types who hunt and fish. I think we will be fine for quite some time if this shit ever goes down.

We've went so far as to discuss how we would all reside in a compound and shoot any trespassers or roving bands of thugs and then hang their bodies on poles a few hundred yards from our perimeter. There would be signs next to them (in English and Spanish) declaring that any uninvited "guests" would find themselves dead and on pole.

The people who are not prepared will outnumber the ones who are. But they will lack the skills and fortitude to overcome the skills of the preppers. I grew up on the land, hunting and fishing and providing for ourselves. I live outside town and we have agreed that our family would retreat to our property with their preps, set up defensive lines and defend our area. We have the ability and fields of fire to defend out to 700 yards or more. There would be at least 15 of us, with 10 adults very well armed. Any trespasser's would be shot. In line with prepper code, you do not rob or take other peoples shit. You do not let anybody take your shit. Hanging of bodies is reserved for people who resort to cannibalism.

There will be groups who will seek refuge, protection with preppers. You politely refuse, give them a couple of days of food and water and send them on their way. For the rest of the people who are unprepared for even a minor disruption..take heed.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:31 am**

So do you guys wear like survival bracelets, Swiss army knives, Leatherman tools and stuff?

Just in case you're caught a few miles from your compound when the apocalypse comes, you don't have any heavy weaponry or entrenching tools, and you have to make your way back through hostile territory?

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:06 am**

Mikey wrote:So do you guys wear like survival bracelets, Swiss army knives, Leatherman tools and stuff?

Just in case you're caught a few miles from your compound when the apocalypse comes, you don't have any heavy weaponry or entrenching tools, and you have to make your way back through hostile territory?

We have these things called bug out bags. In every vehicle we have bags that contain enough food and supplies for 3 days. Personally armed with a .380 and a .357 most times, and if I go more than 2 hours away, a .223 semi auto carbine, plus extra ammo. Never let my gas tanks get under 1/2 full. Carry 2 knives on me at most times, with 3 more in the bag, and a Leatherman too. Chances are when TEWAWKI ( the end of the world as we know it) happens, there will be plenty of warning leading up to it.

Money and debit cards won't mean shit in those days so having other materials to barter is fairly important. I am not one who is going to flee my home for another area. We will stand off there until the crisis abates or changes. I have that advantage in a rural location with a creek, deer and elk and water fowl for food.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:38 am**

The Prince of Irony wrote:these complete nut jobs

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:57 am**

Derron wrote:anarchy could just be around the corner on any given day.

then again, maybe not, postman.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:55 pm**

Mikey wrote:So do you guys wear Leatherman tools and stuff?

It's the Greater Portland Area -- we ALL wear Leathermans... since Mr. Leatherman is a Portland boy, and he invented the shit here.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:28 pm**

mvscal wrote: The entire point of the show is to portray preppers as nuts in order to discredit them and make them look like fools.

H4ever wrote: We've went so far as to discuss how we would all reside in a compound and shoot any trespassers or roving bands of thugs and then hang their bodies on poles a few hundred yards from our perimeter. There would be signs next to them (in English and Spanish) declaring that any uninvited "guests" would find themselves dead and on pole.

And then there is this...

Derron wrote: You politely refuse, give them a couple of days of food and water and send them on their way.

Huh? What kind of stupid fuck are you? You have 90 days of food that you are willing to give to any Tom, Dick or Harry that shows up at you door? Dolt.

And creek water? Are you serious? THAT is your H2O plan?

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:22 pm**

Moving Sale wrote:
mvscal wrote: The entire point of the show is to portray preppers as nuts in order to discredit them and make them look like fools.

H4ever wrote: We've went so far as to discuss how we would all reside in a compound and shoot any trespassers or roving bands of thugs and then hang their bodies on poles a few hundred yards from our perimeter. There would be signs next to them (in English and Spanish) declaring that any uninvited "guests" would find themselves dead and on pole.

And then there is this...
Derron wrote: You politely refuse, give them a couple of days of food and water and send them on their way.
Huh? What kind of stupid fuck are you? You have 90 days of food that you are willing to give to any Tom, Dick or Harry that shows up at you door? Dolt.

And creek water? Are you serious? THAT is your H2O plan?

Hopefully when the shit goes down, you are one of the first to be eliminated..before you procreate and dilute the gene pool even more..

I have 90 days of food IF, IF I did nothing to add to that food supply during that time. But where I live dinner is a .223 shot away from the table. Or even less if my broiler chickens are still alive. Going to stored foods is only when the fresh is not available. Idiot.

And creek water is naturally filtered, and then you use a purification process..tell me you knew that. But I can understand your simple ignorance of knowledge of where the basic needs of life come from. Take comfort you are not alone..there are more stupid unprepared people like you than there are prepared.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:47 pm**

War Wagon wrote:
Derron wrote:anarchy could just be around the corner on any given day.
then again, maybe not, postman.

Ostrich's like you are known as marks, and will be subject to those bands of roving thugs who want to take your shit or kill you. I will just pick them off at 400 yards and let the buzzards have them.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:56 pm**

Clearly, Derron and his comical ilk have been watching way too many Dawn of the Dead movies.

"...when the shit goes down...."

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:57 pm**

The problem with most preppers is that deep down inside, they’re hoping for TEOTWAWKI. Bunch of fucking cowboy wannabes.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:05 pm**

Deep down inside? Try right there on the surface, to a point that they gather together for bukkake parties in open celebration of the coming turkey shoot.

Didn't you read H4ever's post?

Some guy who's just slobbering at the very notion of finally getting to use his guns on something worthwhile wrote:A few of my friends and I have had campfire discussions about this possibility and most of us are armed pretty darn well, and a few of us to the teeth. Lots of ex-military and survivalist, outdoor types who hunt and fish. I think we will be fine for quite some time if this shit ever goes down.

We've went so far as to discuss how we would all reside in a compound and shoot any trespassers or roving bands of thugs and then hang their bodies on poles a few hundred yards from our perimeter. There would be signs next to them (in English and Spanish) declaring that any uninvited "guests" would find themselves dead and on pole.

Fun conversations!

Nah, these guys aren't rooting for it...not at all.

Posted: **Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:48 pm**

Derron wrote:There will be groups who will seek refuge, protection with preppers. You politely refuse, give them a couple of days of food and water and send them on their way.

Uh...I thought you were just going to pick them off from 400 yards away?

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:19 am**

mvscal wrote:
Derron wrote:There will be groups who will seek refuge, protection with preppers. You politely refuse, give them a couple of days of food and water and send them on their way.
Uh...I thought you were just going to pick them off from 400 yards away?

My discretion. People in need and those with nefarious intent will present themselves differently and will be dealt with the way they need to be.

I do not hope for disaster or insurrection. I merely want to be prepared for what ever could possibly happen. I am far from being a total prepper, but not helpless by any means.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:33 am**

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:46 am**

Derron wrote:I do not hope for disaster or insurrection. I merely want to be prepared for what ever could possibly happen. I am far from being a total prepper, but not helpless by any means.

You have a much better chance of dying from a car wreck than you do from some kind of apocalypse. Do you take measures beyond buckling up? Perhaps you don't drive at all? Where does one draw the line with being "prepared?" Seems there's about a thousand things to concern yourself with well before "Doomsday."

The gig is up, Rambo. You know, they have video games for you to play out this sort of fantasy.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:56 am**

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Derron wrote:I do not hope for disaster or insurrection. I merely want to be prepared for what ever could possibly happen. I am far from being a total prepper, but not helpless by any means.
You have a much better chance of dying from a car wreck than you do from some kind of apocalypse. Do you take measures beyond buckling up? Perhaps you don't drive at all? Where does one draw the line with being "prepared?" Seems there's about a thousand things to concern yourself with well before "Doomsday."

The gig is up, Rambo. You know, they have video games for you to play out this sort of fantasy.

Your right..but I am comfortable with my level of preps. I am not as concerned with insurrection or " apocalypse" as I am a natural disaster such as an earthquake. A massive earthquake, not unheard of up here in the ring of fire, could render the infrastructure in ruins and no amount of FEMA logistics could prevent that from becoming insurrection when the food in the stores runs out, you water service and electric grind is out..that is when shit starts getting bad..so I will have a minimum level of prep's in case that earthquake happens and insurrection occurs.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:18 am**

If the locals get buttfucked in the mouf by an earthquake there's a decent chance they will elect to temporarily move vs declaring war on your food and property. I know you live in Oregon, derron, but these aren't archaic times. Insurance tends to cover these things.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:49 am**

I'd just join the roving thugs and prey on the marks. A cleverly executed nicky nine doors and Derron's food is mine.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:16 pm**

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:If the locals get buttfucked in the mouf by an earthquake there's a decent chance they will elect to temporarily move vs declaring war on your food and property. I know you live in Oregon, derron, but these aren't archaic times. Insurance tends to cover these things.

Insurance ? Say a 7.5 or better earthquake hits the area. Probably going to take down most bridges and power lines. We have more than a few rivers here and the need to cross them to go just about anywhere is evident. Grocery stores run out of food in 48 to 72 hours. No potable water service. No gasoline. Just dime up your insurance agent and say get on this now homes...I need my shit fixed right away.

I am sure the federal gubmint will be able to mobilize enough and fast enough shit to care for the masses.

And this can be repaired in just a few days.

And I am sure there will be enough police and fire protection for all, and able to move freely around the infrastructure to do their job.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:20 pm**

Nobody gives a shit about California's Canada.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:27 pm**

Dr_Phibes wrote:I'd just join the roving thugs and prey on the marks. A cleverly executed nicky nine doors and Derron's food is mine.

Your call.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:23 pm**

Every bridge, road and highway is fucked for miles on end. Yeah, you better start planning for that STAT.

Oh, and I'll take Phibes over Derron in this battle. Phibes is cunning. Derron, the dumb oaf. He'd fall asleep at his "post" sitting in his own filth, and get cracked over the head with an empty 40 bottle.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:05 am**

Derron wrote:
Your call.

Hold your fire!

I'm on your side, if I had a plot in the country, I'd turn it into a self-sufficient armed camp. Who wouldn't? I had no idea you were a cool guy, I always thought you were a reactionary jerk. If you ever come to Canada, you drink free

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:34 am**

An S.F. joke about earthquake preparedness runs along the lines of "Oh, I'm down to the basics--a generator and a gun. Just kidding, I don't have a generator."

Rack D-ron for walking the walk.

It is indeed a but a skim of civility that maintains the semblance of "normalcy" that we'd all like to take for granted. It's wearing through really fast in Oakland these days--off the charts, really.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:44 am**

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Every bridge, road and highway is fucked for miles on end. Yeah, you better start planning for that STAT.

Yeah.. I guess infrastructure failure is way over rated. Should have little impact on life with multiple failures..old bridges shit like that, utility failure..pay it no mind.

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:09 am**

So, because a freeway goes down, civilized society is suddenly plunged into Night of the Living Dead?

Posted: **Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:01 am**

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:39 pm**

Derron wrote:And creek water is naturally filtered, and then you use a purification process...

Is it naturally filtered or not? But that is not my problem with your water source. My problem is that it can easily be contaminated by chemicals that you will not be able to filter out and I doubt you meant distilization when you were talking about water purification and secondly what is to keep one of your upstream neighbor's from diverting or damming up the 'creek' thereby depriving you of life giving H2O? Real preppers have cisterns, springs and/or wells (wells being the worst of those choices.)

No Duhhron in Doomsday Life (if there ever is one) just as in Real Life I will be doing fine and you will be struggling because you are stupid and I am not.

Posted: **Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:44 pm**

Moving Sale wrote:and secondly what is to keep one of your upstream neighbor's from diverting or damming up the 'creek' thereby depriving you of life giving H2O?

It's called "gravity," dumbass.

Might wanna look into it before posting shit like:

you are stupid and I am not.

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