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Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:07 pm
by Go Coogs'
I put in a bid for an 'A' operator position that opened up recently. Currently, I am a 'B' operator and only have worked with this company for a little over three years. Five guys inlcuding me put in for the job and I was the most junior person in the group. From what we were told by management, seniority plays a very little part in the decision process for selecting the best candidate for the position.
The selection process is set up by a scoring system with a numerical ranking based on the number people who put in for the job. To make a long story short, I was told by someone who was involved in the selection process that I scored the highest among the five candidates. But it was a close score between all five guys and so they gave it to the senior guy (7 years with the company). Come to find out, the selection process and scoring system was just a formality because our new boss said he didn't have documented data to back up our scores. It was just word of mouth from our superiors. He wanted to wipe the slate clean with everyone and document all good and bad stuff from this point forward. This would provide tangible data for the next job opening. I guess those three years I just put in doesn't mean shit to my new boss. Oh well.
The guy who got the job is a complete douchbag and is well protected by his brother who is a supervisor on another shift. This ass-hat has committed a couple of fireable offenses out in the unit and has been caught both times. But somehow, his brother manages to coax the suits into keeping him around. I wouldn't have minded losing the bid to two of the three other candidates, but this guy is lucky to still be there and now he is going to be giving me orders. Fukk me. I can't wait to school him on the finer things of chemical engineering and process technology. Should be fun making him look stupid.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:13 pm
by Goober McTuber
You should probably try to form a union.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:21 pm
by Go Coogs'
Goober McTuber wrote:You should probably try to form a union.
Ha! If I worked at a union plant, then I'd know seniority is the letter of the law. But this isn't a union plant, yet they are making decisions as if they were one.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:49 pm
by Derron
Typical political games being played by incompetent people who managed to get in a position despite their job performance, and then keep ass kissing their way up that ladder. The do every thing in their power to keep those positions.
Bad as a public employee union.
Go Coogs' wrote: Fukk me. I can't wait to school him on the finer things of chemical engineering and process technology. Should be fun making him look stupid.
Go ahead and let us know how that works out for you, since he is giving you orders now. You should have plenty of time to do that after he helps run your ass.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:59 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
When is your next radio show?
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:07 pm
by BSmack
Martyred wrote:When is your next radio show?
Last year.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:24 pm
by Go Coogs'
Martyred wrote:When is your next radio show?
Probably within the next coupla weeks. Had to work 51 days in a row and now I'm catching up on some family time and playing some golf. Radio show will commence shortly after I'm done doing those things.
I've missed you, Marty. Trev's been keeping me busy.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:41 pm
by smackaholic
I think seniority should be a factor, but, not a major one. Unfortunately it's pretty much everything with unions, particularly public sector unions.
From the sounds of it, your boss handled it reasonably well. He came out and said he didn't have enough data to make a decision based solely on merit, so he went to seniority, He could have just lied and said the other guy deserved it for whatever reason.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:31 pm
by Go Coogs'
I understand my boss' approach. He's new to the position and doesn't know these guys like we do. I just hate to see undeserving people get rewarded based on circumstance. Just like I don't like it when people are a victim of circumstance.
I'll continue doing my thing...no biggie.
This dude, however, has a long road ahead of him. He's gonna get exposed unless he starts taking his job serious.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:37 pm
by mvscal
Go Coogs' wrote:I just hate to see undeserving people get rewarded based on circumstance.
Then you might as well kill yourself right now. Honestly you sound like a fifteen year old girl who just discovered that life isn't fair.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:48 pm
by Go Coogs'
mvscal wrote:Honestly you sound like a fifteen year old girl who just discovered that life isn't fair.
Is that what you want?
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:07 pm
by smackaholic
could you at least off yourself live during a radio/chat show, with the mic on, of course.
btw, any luck getting one of them voice deepener dealios like barry has? it really would help your show.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:24 pm
by Go Coogs'
smackaholic wrote:could you at least off yourself live during a radio/chat show, with the mic on, of course.
That's not very nice, but I suppose some requests can be met.
Before I kill myself though, I was wondering if you could be a special guest on my show that is dedicated to yards. Whatta ya say?
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:31 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
Go Coogs' wrote:mvscal wrote:Honestly you sound like a fifteen year old girl who just discovered that life isn't fair.
Is that what you want?
What an odd question. Are you asking dude if he wants you to be a 15 year old girl?
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:37 pm
by Go Coogs'
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:What an odd question. Are you asking dude if he wants you to be a 15 year old girl?
Just trying to get to know my audience.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:52 pm
by Goober McTuber
Go Coogs' wrote:smackaholic wrote:could you at least off yourself live during a radio/chat show, with the mic on, of course.
That's not very nice, but I suppose some requests can be met.
Before I kill myself though, I was wondering if you could be a special guest on my show that is dedicated to
yards. Whatta ya say?
Not to nitpick, but you did misspell
tards.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:34 pm
by smackaholic
Go Coogs' wrote:smackaholic wrote:could you at least off yourself live during a radio/chat show, with the mic on, of course.
That's not very nice, but I suppose some requests can be met.
Before I kill myself though, I was wondering if you could be a special guest on my show that is dedicated to yards. Whatta ya say?
deal.
i'll even throw in some punctuation/spelling advice.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:39 pm
by Mikey
What no. civics ?
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:52 pm
by smackaholic
Mikey wrote:What no. civics ?
well, that goes without saying.
Re: Promoting Based on Seniority
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:29 am
by poptart