We've given you people all you need to know

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:39 pm

He released 23 years of tax returns to McCain when he was being considered for VP, but McCain chose Sarah Palin instead.

According to McCain, he chose Sarah Palin because "she was the better candidate." Maybe he was trying to help Romney out of hot water over his tax returns, but that explanation bodes even worse for Romney.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:40 pm

Soon as Obama releases his real birth certificate.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:03 pm

Jsc810 wrote:This isn't going to turn out good for him.

How so? The refusal to release personal documents didn't hurt BHO.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:12 pm

But Barry was running against a nightmare ticket of a corrupt egotistical war freak and a pathological liar--in the wake of the most horrific and damaging administration ever. Sure, lots of folks don't like Barry for all sorts of reasons. But everyone hates the robot from Kolob. Or what? Have you not noticed that no one has said anything good about him? Even the Limpdick and Hannity ass-clowns can't bring themselves to actually endorse him. So...what's your question?

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:19 pm

Jsc810 wrote:November may turn out to be the biggest ass kicking in years.

Doubtful. It'll be closer than you think.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:22 pm

Jsc810 wrote: November may turn out to be the biggest ass kicking in years.

Bigger than the ones you take every other day or so in here ?

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:41 pm

Smackie Chan wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:November may turn out to be the biggest ass kicking in years.
Doubtful. It'll be closer than you think.

Indeed. CBS/New York Times has BO trailing by one (and yes, within the margin of error).

I'd ask Jsc if he'd like to re-think his post - but it's clear he didn't think about it the first time before he posted it.

BTW, the president isn't exactly helping his own cause:

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

As a small business owner, I was insulted by the arrogance and stupidity of Obama's statement. But I also realize it wasn't directed to folks like me - we aren't going to vote for him anyway.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:46 pm

Jsc810 wrote:Oh that's right, and what Obama released.......

and his school records?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:49 pm

I've been planning to vote for Romney for some time.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:06 pm

ann and mittens are doing all the heavy lifting......they're doing everything within their power to torpedo the campaign and have been very effective so far.....

"we've given YOU PEOPLE ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW"

good luck with that strategy....

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:15 pm

4 more years of Obama.

4 more LONG years. Get ready for it. Accept it.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:19 pm

Maybe he should go ahead release all his tax records. I'm sure it will sway the vote of all the limp-wristed liberals in here like mikey, gaysc, feeldix, mcGoober, nicky, etc. etc.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:25 pm

Sirfindafold wrote:Maybe he should go ahead release all his tax records. I'm sure it will sway the vote of all the limp-wristed liberals in here like mikey, gaysc, feeldix, mcGoober, nicky, etc. etc.

Less than an hour ago I stated in this thread that I was voting for Romney, you gibbering mongoloid.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:37 pm

Jsc810 wrote:Wow. Now we learn that Romney hasn't fully released even one year of tax returns.

And what is he required by law to release?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:43 pm

Sirfindafold wrote:Maybe he should go ahead release all his tax records.

i don't give a shit about how much money he makes.....he's a richer...nothing wrong with that....

but somebody should be telling these two ass-clowns that the appearance of having total disdain for the common working people in this country is not going to win any elections....and weaving phrases like "you people have all you need to know" into a news interview implies he's hiding something.....

mvscal wrote: And what is he required by law to release?

not a thing.....but that's not relevant to voter perception

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:50 pm

Felix wrote: but somebody should be telling these two ass-clowns that the appearance of having total disdain for the common working people in this country is not going to win any elections....

like hitting more golf balls than a tour pro or spending hundreds of thousands on a "date night" or taking several expensive vacations a year or.....?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:33 pm

Felix wrote:
mvscal wrote: And what is he required by law to release?
not a thing.....but that's not relevant to voter perception

I see. Are you refering to a "perception" being actively shaped by Bath House Barry's compliant media lapdogs by any chance?

I'll start taking these shrill demands for "transparency" seriously (where have these people been the last three and half years, btw?) when they put their money where their mouths are.

Meanwhile back at the ranch...

Most members of Congress keep their tax returns secret

Rep. Nancy Pelosi was emphatic. Mitt Romney's refusal to release more than two years of his personal tax returns, she said, makes him unfit to win confirmation as a member of the president's Cabinet, let alone to hold the high office himself.

Sen. Harry Reid went further: Romney's refusal to make public more of his tax records makes him unfit to be a dogcatcher.

They do not, however, think that standard of transparency should apply to them. The two Democratic leaders of the Senate and the House of Representatives are among hundreds of senators and representatives from both parties who refused to release their tax records. Just 17 out of the 535 members of Congress released their most recent tax forms

Read more here: http://midwestdemocracy.com/articles/mo ... rylink=cpy

Honestly, I'd be more interested in seeing financial disclosure from people who are actually making laws rather than signing off on them. Needless to say, this kerfluffle has nothing whatsoever to do with transparency.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:19 pm

The fucking country and its economy is going to hell and some of you dip shits are worried about how much money Mitt Romney may or may not have made??
Fucking amazing. The good part of being the "old man" is that I'll likely be in my columbarium when all this comes crashing down. Have fun. You voted for it.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:26 pm

Wolfman wrote:The fucking country and its economy is going to hell and some of you dip shits are worried about how much money Mitt Romney may or may not have made??
Fucking amazing. The good part of being the "old man" is that I'll likely be in my columbarium when all this comes crashing down. Have fun. You voted for it.

It is amazing, isn't it....

columbarium is a word that isn't overused in here too much...does it have anything to do with a barium enema?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:33 pm

The Seer wrote:barium enema

4 MORE YEARS!

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:00 pm

mvscal wrote: I see. Are you refering to a "perception" being actively shaped by Bath House Barry's compliant media lapdogs by any chance?

not at all....I don't particularly like obama, but he comes across a hell of a lot more sincere than mittens.....that's why romney is going to lose...

Rep. Nancy Pelosi was emphatic. Mitt Romney's refusal to release more than two years of his personal tax returns, she said, makes him unfit to win confirmation as a member of the president's Cabinet, let alone to hold the high office himself.

Sen. Harry Reid went further: Romney's refusal to make public more of his tax records makes him unfit to be a dogcatcher.

They do not, however, think that standard of transparency should apply to them. The two Democratic leaders of the Senate and the House of Representatives are among hundreds of senators and representatives from both parties who refused to release their tax records. Just 17 out of the 535 members of Congress released their most recent tax forms

Honestly, I'd be more interested in seeing financial disclosure from people who are actually making laws rather than signing off on them. Needless to say, this kerfluffle has nothing whatsoever to do with transparency.

has obama released his tax returns?

of course he has because he doesn't make that much money.....what pelosi and reid do is not particularly relevant to the presidential election

but I'm with youI'd like to know how much every sitting congress person makes and the sources of that revenue .....

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:08 pm

Wolfman wrote:

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:10 pm

Felix wrote:not at all....I don't particularly like obama, but he comes across a hell of a lot more sincere than mittens.....

Nobody gives a flying fuck about Shitt Romney's tax returns. He's rich. We get it. I have no doubt Barry phoned the IRS to give him a complete financial colonoscopy. If there was anything illegal or even dodgy, it would have been plastered all over the news.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:20 pm

It's hilarious how conservatives think Mittens' tax returns are irrelevant while harping about Obama's birth certificate....even after he's released it.

And the tax returns of Romney are more important than Reid's or Pelosi's due to the simple fact that the former is trying to become by himself a branch of government. The latter are only a small fraction of a branch.

And I'm betting that Reid & Pelosi have released about as many tax returns as Issa & Bilbray.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:23 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:And the tax returns of Romney are more important than Reid's or Pelosi's

Fuck off, idiot.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:27 pm

Sirfindafold wrote:
Felix wrote: but somebody should be telling these two ass-clowns that the appearance of having total disdain for the common working people in this country is not going to win any elections....
like hitting more golf balls than a tour pro or spending hundreds of thousands on a "date night" or taking several expensive vacations a year or.....?

Go ahead & hook us up with a link to all the "cheap vacations" that either Bush took.

TIA

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:33 pm

I'm just glad this tax stuff has allowed Romney some breathing room from the Bain battering. And hopefully it'll last long enough to keep the heat off his flip-flop on welfare waivers.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:35 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:I'm just glad this tax stuff has allowed Romney some breathing room from the Bain battering. And hopefully it'll last long enough to keep the heat off his flip-flop on welfare waivers.

I was getting tired of him having constantly to defend Romneycare as well.

Van · Post by **Van** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:37 pm

Diego, it's highly doubtful that anything in Romney's tax returns could constitutionally prevent him from holding the office, which does happen to be the case regarding the implications behind Obama's supposedly forged birth certificate.

Bad comparison.

Otherwise, Nick and Marty are the two who have it the most right in this thread. Everyone can gnash their teeth and stamp their feet all they wish over every possible shortcoming of Barry's yet the fact remains that he only had to beat W's successor. Meanwhile, Romney simply can't inspire anything but the most tepid support even among hardcore Republican types.

His entire appeal can be summed up in five words: At least he's not ~~Bush~~ Obama.

Swear to god, it's as if each election lately there's a new AP comparison someone is using as a means to gain the Oval Office.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:41 pm

Felix wrote:
not at all....I don't particularly like obama, but he comes across a hell of a lot more sincere than mittens.....that's why romney is going to lose...

Diego wrote:It's hilarious how conservatives think Mittens' tax returns are irrelevant while harping about Obama's birth certificate....even after he's released it.

What ? Are you and Felix joined at the hip with your "mittens" smack ?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:34 am

Diego in Seattle wrote:Go ahead & hook us up with a link to all the "cheap vacations" that either Bush took.

TIA

Most of his vacations were to his house in Crawford, you shiteating cretin.

Don't get the wrong idea about what I said ealier. You shouldn't fuck off because you're a lefty wingnut and I'm trying to stifle opposing views or anything like that. You should fuck off because you're just...dumb.

If somebody has to explain to you that Reid and Pelosi as Senate Majority Leader and House Minority Leader are two of the four most powerful members of Congress who set the legislative agenda and promulgate the laws and regulations which govern the nation and are in a unique position to profit from prior knowledge of those laws even moreso than the President, then you are too stupid to participate in this discussion on any meaningful level.

So why don't you just hop into your 'Free Candy' emblazoned pedo van and drive yourself off a cliff, m'kay?

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:45 am

mvscal wrote: Most of his vacations were to his house in Crawford

yeah. he went there a couple of times. cause he's an outdoorsman. who cleared brush. whenever his handlers told him to.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:50 am

Van wrote:His entire appeal can be summed up in five words: At least he's not ~~Bush~~ Obama.

That might very well might be enough.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:53 am

mvscal wrote: Most members of Congress keep their tax returns secret

Rep. Nancy Pelosi was emphatic. Mitt Romney's refusal to release more than two years of his personal tax returns, she said, makes him unfit to win confirmation as a member of the president's Cabinet, let alone to hold the high office himself.

Sen. Harry Reid went further: Romney's refusal to make public more of his tax records makes him unfit to be a dogcatcher.

They do not, however, think that standard of transparency should apply to them. The two Democratic leaders of the Senate and the House of Representatives are among hundreds of senators and representatives from both parties who refused to release their tax records. Just 17 out of the 535 members of Congress released their most recent tax forms

Read more here: http://midwestdemocracy.com/articles/mo ... rylink=cpy

Very interesting article and not just for the parts you excerpted. But of course Jsc and his ilk won't acknowledge the hypocrisy because it's not written in their script of talking points.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:55 am

War Wagon wrote: Most members of Congress keep their tax returns secret

All recent candidates for President don't.

you people are gripping

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:01 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:
War Wagon wrote: Most members of Congress keep their tax returns secret

All recent candidates for President don't.

That really wasn't the point now was it? Please try to keep up with the context.

Reid said he wasn't fit to be dogcatcher. I guess dogcatcher is a step up from Senate majority leader then.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:06 am

Diego wrote:It's hilarious how conservatives think Mittens' tax returns are irrelevant while harping about Obama's birth certificate....even after he's released it

Released what?

Nobody verified that the document Barry passed out is a copy of what they have in Hawaii.

YOU believe it is, but from viewing your act in here, it's clear that you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:07 am

Truman wrote:If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:24 am

Truman wrote:If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.

if only Truman was smart enough to listen to what Obama actually said.

I think War Wagon might be smarter than Truman. And that's not a good thing.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:31 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:
Truman wrote:If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.

if only Truman was smart enough to listen to what Obama actually said.

That is what he actually said, you brainless fuckwit.