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Bunch of folks shot on campus, shooter in custody.

http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-breaks-n ... 26073.html

Of course UT beat them to this by 46 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

There really ought to be a law against murder in this country. I think it's time we had a serious conversation on murderer control.

SEC! SEC! SEC!

mvscal wrote:There really ought to be a law against murder in this country. I think it's time we had a serious conversation on murderer control.

Not allowing psychos to arm like a small 3rd world country would be a good starting point.

BSmack wrote:

mvscal wrote:There really ought to be a law against murder in this country. I think it's time we had a serious conversation on murderer control.

Not allowing psychos to arm like a small 3rd world country would be a good starting point.

Guns don't kill people. Obama gutting Medicare kills people.

BSmack wrote:Not allowing psychos to arm like a small 3rd world country would be a good starting point.

Exactly how do you "not allow" someone to arm themselves? You mean strict gun control laws? Yeah, because criminals often follow the law.

a pile of flaming logs is wanted for questioning

BSmack wrote:Bunch of folks shot on campus, shooter in custody.

http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-breaks-n ... 26073.html

Of course UT beat them to this by 46 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

Why don't you google up how many people were capped on the streets of Chicago, New York, Newark, Oakland, Los Angeles, Miami, Atlanta, Dallas, St Louis, Detroit, Chula Vista, Fresno, and any of a hundred other cities today and we can compare that to the number shot in the Texas shooting you are referring to.

This story will drop off pretty quickly. Some JBTs serving an eviction notice got blasted and I really don't think anyone on the right or left is going to lose much sleep over that.

Sudden Sam wrote:

Derron wrote: how many people were capped on the streets of Chicago

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/06/15 ... owles-1-3/

While 144 Americans have died in Afghanistan in 2012, a whopping 228 Chicago residents have been killed, and the murder rate is up a staggering 35 percent from last year. That’s a rash of homicides quadruple the rate of New York City’s, and police and crime experts fear it may only get worse.

There you go...the true crime is the 144 Americans killed, that is about 4 per week average. That is a fucking outrage and both sides ignore those numbers and make no mention of it during their political process.

228 people in Chicago ? Meh...another 400 were probably born into that shit hole the same time.

The media ignores those numbers since it is basically just another fill piece in the fish wrap.

good thing we're spending so much money in afghanistan to fight the Chicago problem.

I think they should sell drugs and guns in combo packs. One stop shopping and stuff. Maybe even on Amazon.

maybe a drug-free zone that implies all drugs are free there. only catch is that you're stuck in that area with all the other people who want free drugs and they all have guns.

i think the problem will solve itself. along with some other problems.

Why are most Americans hooked into anxiety/depression prescription drugs?

What is it about your country that sucks so hard, you have to be fucked up to get through the day?

Martyred wrote:Why are most Americans hooked into anxiety/depression prescription drugs?

What is it about your country that sucks so hard, you have to be fucked up to get through the day?

If you'd just FOAD there would probably be a at least a few overnight cures.

88 wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote:maybe a drug-free zone that implies all drugs are free there. only catch is that you're stuck in that area with all the other people who want free drugs and they all have guns.

i think the problem will solve itself. along with some other problems.

Isn't that part of the Ryan budget plan?

no. in the Ryan budget plan the rich are given helipads to lift their estates off the ground and away from the unwashed, grubby fingers of peons.

88 wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote:

88 wrote: Isn't that part of the Ryan budget plan?

no. in the Ryan budget plan the rich are given helipads to lift their estates off the ground and away from the unwashed, grubby fingers of peons.

Goddamn that is genius.

that's why he's the VP pick. the Biden plan involved free hair plugs and choo choo train rides. not comparable.

Sudden Sam wrote:

Martyred wrote:Why are most Americans hooked into anxiety/depression prescription drugs?

What is it about your country that sucks so hard, you have to be fucked up to get through the day?

Wish there were answers to these questions.

We are a pitiful f**king mess.

Seeing the beautiful workers' paradise just to the north that's so close and yet so far away just naturally contributes to our general feelings of depression and low self of steam.

88 wrote:Remember the days before firearms were invented, and no murders were committed at all?

Statistically, the rate of homicide/ people-killing-people, including murder and warfare has been in steady decline since the dawn of man.

Easy to paint it the opposite, but as time goes by, we definitely kill each other at a slower rate, a trend that's held up for thousands of years.

Yeah, I saw an article on it recently.

Troubling new data show there are an average of 950 suicide attempts each month by veterans who are receiving some type of treatment from the Veterans Affairs Department.

Seven percent of the attempts are successful, and 11 percent of those who don’t succeed on the first attempt try again within nine months.

The numbers, which come at a time when VA is strengthening its suicide prevention programs, show about 18 veteran suicides a day, about five by veterans who are receiving VA care.

Let's see, that's about 20 or so suicides by soldiers for every one that gets killed in the field. Hmmm..I wonder why. Perhaps like Pat Tillman they suddenly realized the whole Permanent War is fake. Perhaps they realized they've been thoroughly manipulated by the seething Zionazis and their lives are now ruined. Just like our economy.

Oh yeah, let's support serious gun control. What...the NRA is an even bigger lobbying force than AIPAC?

Sudden Sam wrote:I was just emailing with an old high school buddy who has been living in Calgary for years.

It does sound like paradise up there.

Then why is my region absolutely overrun with shitty-driving Upper Mexicans every summer?

Sudden Sam wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote: Seven percent of the attempts are successful

Jesus, what kind of firearms training are we giving these guys?!

Excuse me...Jesus?...I'm looking for a little extra target practice....at night...you know, when I'm blotto...

Dinsdale wrote:Statistically, the rate of homicide/ people-killing-people, including murder and warfare has been in steady decline since the dawn of man.

Easy to paint it the opposite, but as time goes by, we definitely kill each other at a slower rate, a trend that's held up for thousands of years.

Yeah, I saw an article on it recently.

The 20th century says you're completely full of shit.

Dins is simply going the poptart route. He's defining 'the dawn of man' as 'ever since August of 1945.'

No gettin' around it: Bace pwns this thread.

Laughed-out-loud all four times I've read it. A well-earned rack from this peep, mang...

Martyred wrote:Why are most Americans hooked into anxiety/depression prescription drugs?

What is it about your country that sucks so hard, you have to be fucked up to get through the day?

Canada stole our Devo record and won't give it back?

But seriously, I remember Frank Zappa asking something similar during the PMRC Senate hearings back in the mid 80s. The Senators all looked at him like he was from outer space.

Typical Aggies. Always trying to follow their big brother in Austin but always failing to out do them. Their near campus shoot out came 46 years after Texas did it and the death toll comes way under what was accomplished around the UT tower. Can't even massacre worth a damn.

mvscal wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:Statistically, the rate of homicide/ people-killing-people, including murder and warfare has been in steady decline since the dawn of man.

Easy to paint it the opposite, but as time goes by, we definitely kill each other at a slower rate, a trend that's held up for thousands of years.

Yeah, I saw an article on it recently.

The 20th century says you're completely full of shit.

nope.

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/pinker0 ... index.html

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalr ... rates.html


Perception and reality are often different. While the World Wars made a serious uptick, they were more than offset statistically by the huge population explosion.

So yes, I am indeed correct, and every number-cruncher out there agrees.

Political correctness from the other end of the ideological spectrum has also distorted many people's conception of violence in early civilizations—namely, those featured in the Bible. This supposed source of moral values contains many celebrations of genocide, in which the Hebrews, egged on by God, slaughter every last resident of an invaded city. The Bible also prescribes death by stoning as the penalty for a long list of nonviolent infractions, including idolatry, blasphemy, homosexuality, adultery, disrespecting one's parents, and picking up sticks on the Sabbath.

God is such a fucking dick.

Van wrote:
God is such a fucking dick.

Remind me not to stand anywhere near you in an open area.

Dinsdale wrote:http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/pinker0 ... index.html

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalr ... rates.html

Irrelevant.

Perception and reality are often different.

More frequently they aren't. The industrialized slaughter of the 20th century has no parallel in history. There is far more to it than just the two world wars. You have Stalin's purges, Mao's "Great Leap Forward," Pol Pot, wars and revolutions in Asia, Africa, Central and South America, the Indian sub-continent etc. etc.

It was the bloodiest century in history. That fact isn't even arguable.

Mikey wrote:

Van wrote:
God is such a fucking dick.

Remind me not to stand anywhere near you in an open area.

We should go to a Chargers game together. Let's bring trev for protection.

mvscal wrote:
More frequently they aren't. The industrialized slaughter of the 20th century has no parallel in history. There is far more to it than just the two world wars. You have Stalin's purges, Mao's "Great Leap Forward," Pol Pot, wars and revolutions in Asia, Africa, Central and South America, the Indian sub-continent etc. etc.

It was the bloodiest century in history. That fact isn't even arguable.

Not to mention the 2011 Red Sox.

And the Jim Rome message boards.

mvscal wrote:It was the bloodiest century in history. That fact isn't even arguable.

Numbers-wise, it certainly is inarguable.

As a percentage of humanity, it slowed the steady downward trend since ancient times, but it certainly wasn't.

Still a much smaller percentage of human population than in centuries past. Although the massive population boom made it much easier to ring up big numbers, but those same big numbers kept the overall percentage down.

I'm trying to find the thingy I saw that had reasonable numbers -- dude explains methodology and all that good stuff. But every other reasonable effort I've seen done all comes to the same conclusion.

Has there been a 12th suspect arrested?