If there's a power pole down, and a busted fire hydrant...
Stay...the fuck...away.
2 women electrocuted trying to help at crash scene
Irma Zamora ran into the electrified water at the Valley Village site and was killed. Another woman died trying to help her. Officials call them heroes.
Martyred wrote:
Cueball's Understanding of the Darwin meme 0
I disagree....electricity is quite popular among darwin finalists....not as popular as guns, but popular none the less
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:13 pm
by Dinsdale
I'm sure glad that the article pointed out she was "fatally" electrocuted.
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:14 pm
by Dinsdale
Martyred wrote:
Cueball wrote:Darwin 2
Good Samaritans 0
Cueball's Understanding of the Darwin meme 0
They didn't mention that she had kids (I would think they would have), and she was still marginally of reproductive age... where's the issue?
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:47 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Felix wrote:
Martyred wrote:
Cueball's Understanding of the Darwin meme 0
I disagree....electricity is quite popular among darwin finalists....not as popular as guns, but popular none the less
I would assume "Darwin" would apply to someone suffering consequences as the result of doing something reckless or idiotic, not trying to save the life of someone in distress, you tedious crybaby.
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:19 pm
by Dinsdale
"Reckless or idiotic" and "heroic" aren't mutually exclusive.
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:48 pm
by Derron
Martyred wrote:
I would assume "Darwin" would apply to someone suffering consequences as the result of doing something reckless or idiotic, not trying to save the life of someone in distress, you tedious crybaby.
The operative word here is trying. She gets no rack for charging blindly into a situation that she failed to evaluate and assess properly, IF she even possessed that skill set, and promptly became a victim herself. A rational and educated, or one even slightly trained in EMS type services would have had better situational awareness, and looked at all hazard factors, potential factors before blindly charging in and becoming an additional liability to EMS, and in this case getting herself fryed.
Never become a victim yourself is pounded into your head from day one EMS and fire and cop training. Not understanding the relationship between short circuited electricity, standing water and other factors, and then charging ahead has to have some Darwin credit.
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:54 pm
by The Seer
In their haste to "do the right thing" and help someone injured, they died. That's it.
Some cold mf's in this p-alce.
:?
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:52 pm
by Derron
The Seer wrote:In their haste to "do the right thing" and help someone injured, they died. That's it.
Some cold mf's in this p-alce.
:?
Haste makes waste. Still seems like Darwin gets the bode points here for someone not knowing what they were about to do was going to be fatal.
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:20 pm
by Felix
Martyred wrote: I would assume "Darwin" would apply to someone suffering consequences as the result of doing something reckless or idiotic, not trying to save the life of someone in distress, you tedious crybaby.
She was immediately –- and fatally — electrocuted, struck by what firefighters estimate was 48,000 volts of electricity.
given the fact that the first woman's husband told her to stay in the car, she should have listened.....here's a tip for ya sport, if you see a 50 kv power line down I'd stay the fuck away if I were you....it's not like you wouldn't notice it-a downed power line of that size gives off lots of sparks and shit and makes this really weird humming sound.....you'd almost have to be purposely ignoring it to miss it.....if somebody is not smart enough to know that an overhead power line is going to deliver enough juice to light up a neighborhood, they probably don't deserve to live, no matter how "heroic" their intentions were....
no, this is definitely Darwin worthy stuff
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:10 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Derron wrote:
Haste makes waste. Still seems like Darwin gets the bode points here for someone not knowing what they were about to do was going to be fatal.
You know what "Darwin" is?
Darwin is you railing on about taxes while your sub-moronic offspring pull a government welfare cheque because they were (genetically) too stupid to stay in school and instead will spend the rest of their days shitting in a bag or dribbling on a psychiatrist's couch.
BODE Chuck D
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:17 am
by Dinsdale
Martyred wrote:
Cueball wrote:Darwin 2
Good Samaritans 0
Cueball's Understanding of the Darwin meme 0
Martyred wrote:
Derron wrote:
Haste makes waste. Still seems like Darwin gets the bode points here for someone not knowing what they were about to do was going to be fatal.
You know what "Darwin" is?
Darwin is you railing on about taxes while your sub-moronic offspring pull a government welfare cheque because they were (genetically) too stupid to stay in school and instead will spend the rest of their days shitting in a bag or dribbling on a psychiatrist's couch.
BODE Chuck D
Marty's understanding of the Darwin meme = Negative Infinity.
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:17 am
by Cueball
Damn
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:50 pm
by Smackie Chan
The Seer wrote:Some cold mf's in this p-alce.
No shit.
/S/
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:53 pm
by Jerkovich
I would have loved to see that on you tube! :doh:
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:53 pm
by Screw_Michigan
The Seer wrote:In their haste to "do the right thing" and help someone injured, they died. That's it.
Some cold mf's in this p-alce.
:?
Says the board's GOP trumpeter.
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:54 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Martyred wrote:
Derron wrote:
Haste makes waste. Still seems like Darwin gets the bode points here for someone not knowing what they were about to do was going to be fatal.
You know what "Darwin" is?
Darwin is you railing on about taxes while your sub-moronic offspring pull a government welfare cheque because they were (genetically) too stupid to stay in school and instead will spend the rest of their days shitting in a bag or dribbling on a psychiatrist's couch.
BODE Chuck D
Rack!
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:21 pm
by R-Jack
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Martyred wrote:
You know what "Darwin" is?
Darwin is you railing on about taxes while your sub-moronic offspring pull a government welfare cheque because they were (genetically) too stupid to stay in school and instead will spend the rest of their days shitting in a bag or dribbling on a psychiatrist's couch.
BODE Chuck D
Rack!
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:04 am
by Go Coogs'
Derron wrote:Never become a victim yourself is pounded into your head from day one EMS and fire and cop training.
Yeah, but not everyone is capable of retaining that sort of thing. This dumbass cop walked right into an ammonia leak.
I'm an emergency responder, HAZMAT and REACTS member, and on the fire brigade team. First rule as an emergency responder is to contact backup and identify the hazards before approaching anything.
The lady didn't know any better, but the cop completely whiffed on his efforts and it cost him his life.
Re: Moral of the Story
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:45 pm
by Mikey
I'm not a hazmat worker or an EMT or anything like that. I think it's pretty common knowledge that you don't approach a downed powerline and you don't step into a pool of water with a downed powerline sitting in it.
Disclaimer: I did work as an electrician for about 5 years but I knew that shit as a child. Maybe my elementary school was just better at teaching basic safety than most.
