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More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:18 pm
by Dinsdale
This article addresses the impact in West Virginia specifically, but it plays out the same in every state.
West Virginia Sportsmen could face a serious reduction in hunting and fishing related activities amid maneuvering underway in Washington DC. The Office of Management and Budget, controlled by the White House, is threatening to sequester funds from the Pittman Robertson and Wallop-Breaux Act at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

Those are funds paid by sportsmen when they buy guns, ammo, and fishing equipment. They're earmarked under a 75-year old program which requires they be disbursed back to the states for the expressed and sole purpose of restoring wildlife and fisheries.

"We're looking at about an $800,000 reduction," said West Virginia DNR Wildlife Chief Curtis Taylor on Saturday's Ram Trucks West Virginia Outdoors.

Thirty percent of the West Virginia DNR annual budget comes from the funds. The sequestration could amount to $150,000 in reduced game management funds. A $56,000 reduction is slated for research and restoration efforts and warmwater fisheries programs could suffer a $120,000 loss. The popular trout program could be cut by $150,000.

"Immediate impacts are we'll see smaller trout and they'll be stocked less frequently," said Taylor.

Expensive trout food will be cut and fewer feedings will be made at the state's hatcheries reducing the average size of put and take trout. The warmwater program will cut back on stockings of musky, walleye, striped bass, and channel cat fish.

The reductions in services on the game management side could be equally steep. Rifle ranges statewide would close and seasonal labor hired to pick up trash and mow various properties would be eliminated. Campgrounds would be closed on public hunting areas. There would be no new construction of boat ramps, rifle ranges, or any other public land development.

"They're talking about doing this for nine years," said Taylor. "At the end of nine years, we'll be lucky to keep the lights on."

Currently the law disallows Congress from touching the money. However, Gordon Robertson, vice-President of the American Sportfishing Association, says even that protection could be in jeopardy.

"Beyond a couple of years there are provisions that allow that money to go into the Treasury," said Robertson. "Other provisions kick in and we're not long down the road before that money is allocated to all sorts of places."

The solution is a new federal budget. Robertson isn't optimistic.

"Congress isn't going to address this soon," he said. "There's a lot of speculation and a lot of posturing."

Sequestration is a tool at the OMB's disposal to secure any federal money and insure the budget is fully funded. However, Congress hasn't passed a budget of late and the country's spending is running on one continuing resolution after another.

Observers think sequestration may be an effort by the White House to force the hand of Congress. Others aren't so sure because so many funds have been exempt. The wildlife and sport restoration funds do not enjoy an exemption and it's shaping up to be a major hit on hunters and anglers nationwide.

"My personal opinion is that the White House doesn't really care about hunters and anglers," said Taylor. "I don't think they have an inkling what this means to the economy of the country and West Virginia. Wildlife in West Virginia is a one-BILLION dollar industry."

Taylor thinks the White House is serious about locking up the sportsmen's money.

"I don't think it's alarmist at all. I think it's time for hunters and anglers to stand up and be counted and let the politicians known how important this is to the nation's economy," Taylor said.

He urged West Virginia hunters, anglers, and even those who just enjoy the outdoors in a non-consumptive way to contact their members of Congress.

"We were told by a senior member of Congress that sportsmen need to 'raise hell.'" Taylor added. "If this doesn't wake them up I don't know what will. This is their future and their grandkids future."

Yup, fishing and hunting are huge businesses in every state. But Obama doesn't care about business or anything related to it.... just wants to spend spend spend.

Raiding the trust(s) that funds wildlife restoration/enhancement? That's his answer to his spending addiction.

Get this fucking clown out of office NOW, please.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:36 pm
by Mikey
So, somebody said that the OMB is threatening to do something. And it's "controlled by the White House."

A lot of good details there.

Nothing from the OMB except some speculation by somebody on some radio show.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:00 pm
by mvscal
Don't you ever get tired of getting kicked in the face every time you kneel down to suck that stupid niqqer's cock?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default ... report.pdf

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:08 pm
by Mikey
mvscal wrote:Don't you ever get tired of getting kicked in the face every time you kneel down to suck that stupid niqqer's cock?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default ... report.pdf
I'm pretty sure the Budget Control Act, of which this is a direct consequence, was passed by a Republican Congress.

Nice try. Go fuck yourself.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:10 pm
by Dinsdale
Mikey is all het-up to vote for a guy that thinks taking billions out of the economy to use it for every pet project the tards can come up with.

But I'm sure Mikey is perfectly OK with the feds raiding the Social Security Trust, right?

Kind of the same thing, only this will have much greater consequences, and we won't be able to buy our way back out of it, like we can eventually do with SSI.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:13 pm
by The Seer
If the Dems ever stopped throwing good money at the unions and illegals they would lose their constituency...doesn't make a lot of sense for them to do so...

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:17 pm
by Mikey
Dinsdale wrote:Mikey is all het-up to vote for a guy that thinks taking billions out of the economy to use it for every pet project the tards can come up with.

But I'm sure Mikey is perfectly OK with the feds raiding the Social Security Trust, right?

Kind of the same thing, only this will have much greater consequences, and we won't be able to buy our way back out of it, like we can eventually do with SSI.

Not particularly excited about Obama, to tell you the truth, but more than willing to tell you you're full of shit when you're so obviously full of shit.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:19 pm
by Dinsdale
Mikey wrote: I'm pretty sure the Budget Control Act, of which this is a direct consequence, was passed by a Republican Congress.

Nice try.

Nice try, indeed.

The Sequestration Transparancy Act was put in the Budget Control Act as a compromise by the republicans to get the democrats to actually try to reduce deficit spending (not in their programming).


Way to toe that party line, though... even if you have to fudge the facts to do it.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:23 pm
by Dinsdale
Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta wrote:sequestration would hollow out our armed forces and inflict severe damage to our national defense.
But what it WILL do, is keep Obama from having to deal with another debate over raising the debt ceiling.

Yup, he's trading national security (at least according to the guy he appointed to run it) to avoid political fallout and win an election.

What an amazing POS this guy is... time to show him the door.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:25 pm
by Atomic Punk
Dinsdale wrote: Way to toe that party line, though... even if you have to fudge the facts to do it.
Someone was going to do it, so let me take the hit.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:26 pm
by Dinsdale
Mikey wrote: I'm pretty sure the Budget Control Act, of which this is a direct consequence, was passed by a Republican Congress.

BTW - what was the party affiliation of the president who signed it?

You know... that president who signed it into law with his own pen, then didn't follow the law he signed?

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:35 pm
by Atomic Punk
The Seer wrote:If the Dems ever stopped throwing good money at the unions and illegals they would lose their constituency...doesn't make a lot of sense for them to do so...
Many big time farmers here in the People's Democratic Republic of Commiefornia have been letting their crops die for a variety of reasons. A few told me why they are doing it on these huge agricultural areas. The high speed rail controversy that will tear their land apart, water rights, etc.

The good news is many (not enough) of the illegals have been heading back south of the border due to not having work. I wish I could have taken pictures of these vast areas of empty fields of dead or barren lands to show.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:37 pm
by Dinsdale
Atomic Punk wrote:
Dinsdale wrote: Way to toe that party line, though... even if you have to fudge the facts to do it.
Someone was going to do it, so let me take the hit.

Was it a hit of acid, because you sure aren't making any sense, as per usualm.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:40 pm
by The Seer
Atomic Punk wrote:The high speed rail controversy that will tear their land apart, water rights, etc.
Can't figure out why there's a controversy....who would oppose a high speed rail that would quickly transport you from nowhere to nothingness?

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Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:43 pm
by Dinsdale
Atomic Punk wrote:
Dinsdale wrote: Way to toe that party line, though... even if you have to fudge the facts to do it.
Someone was going to do it, so let me take the hit.

Wait...

really?

You claim to have been in the military, and aren't familiar with that phrase?

Your stupidity really does know no bounds, asshat.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:49 pm
by Wolfman
"Not particularly excited about Obama, to tell you the truth"

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Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:14 pm
by Dinsdale
Wolfman wrote:"Not particularly excited about Obama, to tell you the truth"

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But he takes his orders from the Mighty D's, so that's who he's going with...

which makes him a retard.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:30 pm
by Atomic Punk
Dinsdale wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:
Dinsdale wrote: Way to toe that party line, though... even if you have to fudge the facts to do it.
Someone was going to do it, so let me take the hit.

Wait...

really?

You claim to have been in the military, and aren't familiar with that phrase?
Why 2 posts about it then? Next thing you'll tell me is that it's actually an idiom from military history.

It reminded me of a time a fellow flight school student and I were driving in Pensacola as we were seriously hung over. So we're at a stop light and he said to look at the tow truck next to us. These were two black guys in the tow truck and they wrote on the back window "in toe" of a car the were jacking.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:47 pm
by Ken
Atomic Punk wrote: It reminded me of a time a fellow flight school student and I were driving in Pensacola as we were seriously hung over. So we're at a stop light and he said to look at the tow truck next to us. These were two black guys in the tow truck and they wrote on the back window "in toe" of a car the were jacking.
That was a beautiful story… tell me again before I go to bed?

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:06 am
by Dinsdale
Atomic Punk wrote:Why 2 posts about it then?
Because when I read it the first time, silly me, I forgot that your idiocy was of epic proportion, and the inanity was so off-the-charts, I frankly didn't even know what the fuck you were talking about.

But then (why yes, I did begin a papagraph with a conjunction, thanks for noticing), the light came on, and I thought to myself "You're dealing with At Least I'm Not... he really is that fucking stupid."

Thus the two posts about it.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:13 am
by Atomic Punk
Ken wrote:That was a beautiful story… tell me again before I go to bed?
So Kengina, it seems that you are feeling "froggy" after posting a PET. You want to be admired, loved and think you are a respected pink Jetta owner regardless of pimping Quaker State hair oil.

If anyone has pics of Pedo in Seattle, you can do a comparison and see they were separated at birth. Neither of you could get laid in a morgue.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:15 am
by Dinsdale
Hmmmm... wonder if this will be the time it ends well for AP?

Any bets?

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:33 am
by mvscal
Dinsdale wrote:Hmmmm... wonder if this will be the time it ends well for AP?

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:47 am
by Ken
Atomic Punk wrote:
Ken wrote:That was a beautiful story… tell me again before I go to bed?
So Kengina, it seems that you are feeling "froggy" after posting a PET. You want to be admired, loved and think you are a respected pink Jetta owner regardless of pimping Quaker State hair oil.
Get one thing straight, AP… I don’t come here looking for admiration, that’s for sure. If I did, I’d actually try and post more. I come here looking for a few laughs which thankfully, many here incite. Your occasional meltdown is always worth a few laughs, which in and of itself, is worth checking in on a late Friday night when I can pretty much bet the bank on there being a vodka-laced, stream of unconsciousness at the hands of your liver, wandering eye, and your vodka-cran cranium.

So, take that shit out to the curb along with the rest of your ‘hall of fame’ smack.
If anyone has pics of Pedo in Seattle, you can do a comparison and see they were separated at birth.
Oh…. Buuuuuuurrrrrrrn.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:05 am
by Atomic Punk
Ken wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:
Ken wrote:That was a beautiful story… tell me again before I go to bed?
So Kengina, it seems that you are feeling "froggy" after posting a PET. You want to be admired, loved and think you are a respected pink Jetta owner regardless of pimping Quaker State hair oil.
Get one thing straight, AP… I don’t come here looking for admiration, that’s for sure. If I did, I’d actually try and post more.

So, take that shit out to the curb along with the rest of your ‘hall of fame’ smack.
If anyone has pics of Pedo in Seattle, you can do a comparison and see they were separated at birth.
Oh…. Buuuuuuurrrrrrrn.
So then why take all of the effort to post your "Look at me!" pics? You lurk but rarely post. Since you've posted that thread you've been getting froggy. You are simply trying to impress other males here. Not only do you look like Pedo, but you are needy for attention... but from an "older" crowd.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:14 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Atomic Punk wrote:Not only do you look like Pedo,
Why do you think he's spent so much time in Thailand?

:shock:

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:40 am
by Cuda
i still don't see what any of this has to do with Vic.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:48 am
by Atomic Punk
Martyred wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:Not only do you look like Pedo,
Why do you think he's spent so much time in Thailand?

:shock:
Oh, I forgot about that. Maybe it's the US economy that forced him to outsource his looking for a partner.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:16 am
by Imus
Atomic Punk wrote:
Martyred wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:Not only do you look like Pedo,
Why do you think he's spent so much time in Thailand?

:shock:
Oh, I forgot about that. Maybe it's the US economy that forced him to outsource his looking for a partner.
One would think, after more than five years of inane drunken posting, AP might have at least Once sobered up and read some of the shit he posts, and realized in that rare lucid moment how embarrasing he makes himself look.

One would think, but he continues to demonstrate otherwise. If it is true, a board needs its tards, then truely this board has a wonderful tard In AP. So our thanks to you. I guess.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:32 am
by Ken
Atomic Punk wrote:
Martyred wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:Not only do you look like Pedo,
Why do you think he's spent so much time in Thailand?

:shock:
Oh, I forgot about that. Maybe it's the US economy that forced him to outsource his looking for a partner.
Or, it could simply be for the fact that my career trajectory has taken me completely in opposite direction from yours. Excellent work and pay in Thailand? I’m in.
You? Marginal work and marginal pay in a rest stop? You’re in. Rack the fuck outta you, loser to the 10th degree. Suck on, sparky.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:00 am
by Atomic Punk
Ken wrote: Or, it could simply be for the fact that my career trajectory has taken me completely in opposite direction from yours. Excellent work and pay in Thailand? I’m in.
You? Marginal work and marginal pay in a rest stop? You’re in. Rack the fuck outta you, loser to the 10th degree. Suck on, sparky.
To summarize what Zen Ken Van Gina just said:

1) I am better than you. U-Haul smack doesn't apply to me.
2) You work in a rest stop.
3) I make more money than you.
4) You're a loser.
5) You suck.

Question: How is the Thailand online dating thing going for you? A little birdy told me what you do over there on the side.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:02 pm
by Derron
Atomic Punk wrote:
Ken wrote: Or, it could simply be for the fact that my career trajectory has taken me completely in opposite direction from yours. Excellent work and pay in Thailand? I’m in.
You? Marginal work and marginal pay in a rest stop? You’re in. Rack the fuck outta you, loser to the 10th degree. Suck on, sparky.
To summarize what Zen Ken Van Gina just said:

1) I am better than you. U-Haul smack doesn't apply to me.
2) You work in a rest stop.
3) I make more money than you.
4) You're a loser.
5) You suck.

Question: How is the Thailand online dating thing going for you? A little birdy told me what you do over there on the side.
Good to see all the vodka and suck ass posting has not dulled your deductive reasoning skills. At least you get what he is saying, even though you had to reformulate it to something you understood. We all got it the first time.

Re: More financial genius from the HNIC

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:37 pm
by Trampis
I dont know what the HNIC has to do with it but I do know that the Army Corp of Engineers(they run the land along the Snake and Columbia Rivers) and the state of Washington is having a really tough time keeping our state parks and lands maintained. I have a feeling our Dem. governor likes cuts in recreational spending more than cuts in welfare. And if we had a Republican governor he/she would auction off the public lands that we all enjoy to private parties...either way we seem to be fucked.

The ONE thing that ALL citizens can benefit from and our government pulls the plug on funding our state lands.

Always nickle and dimeing us too. Up here to enjoy a trip outdoors you may need one of the following, a Discover pass, Northwest Forest Pass, WDFW pass, hunting license with the correct "tag"(Deer, elk, bear/cougar, upland bird, migratory bird, small game), fishing license with perhaps a Columbia/Snake River endorsement and punch cards for Steelhead, Salmon or sturgeon. Then there is the individual fees for trailheads, boat launches and campgrounds. Special backcountry permits to camp in certain areas.

I'm just happy if I remember to bring my binoculars and camera when I go outdoors, now I have to remember all the shit I have to carry in my back pocket, hang on my backpack or hang from the mirror of my pickup truck.

Fuck me running.(FMR)