Inouye was a great political figure, but not for calling out the Watergate criminals. Rather, his chairing of the senate inquiry into the much deeper criminality of the Reagan gang in the Contragate scandal was his shining moment. Remember...when he reminded the sputtering Ollie North that a soldier has a legal duty to disobey an illegal order? And how Ollie's shyster lawyer went ballistic in a wet-hen filibuster of distraction? Of course Ollie belonged in prison and got away, but it was nice to see him properly shamed.
Yoku dekimashita
Did that Nip just compare me to the order-following Nazis? Start quacking!...what am I paying you for?
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:22 pm
by Wolfman
RIP to one bad ass trooper.
Just how many people died at Watergate?
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:32 pm
by M2
Jsc810 wrote:
What it doesn’t say, but he tells in the clip above, is that he reached down to pry a live grenade out of his right hand, dangling at the end of his destroyed arm, and tossed it into the Nazi machine gun nest.
That was a man. RIP.
A bad-ass, indeed.
I'll never forget his questioning of Oliver North in the Iran-Contra hearings...such a booming authoritative voice...especially his response when North tried to pull the "I'm an American patriot and you are not" card on him.
M2 wrote:
" Throughout history there have always been those who plan wars and those who fight them."
Cheers for that one, Dan.
So he wasn't the brightest lamp in the shop?
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:21 am
by mvscal
Dr_Phibes wrote:So he wasn't the brightest lamp in the shop?
From this point on in the battle, Lieutenant Daniel Inouye of the 442nd Regimental Combat Team went into Total Fucking Berserker Meltdown Mode. He doesn't even remember what happened next – but his awestruck platoon members sure as fuck do.
While still bleeding profusely from the mangled stump that used to be his right arm, Daniel Inouye ditched the grenades, unslung the Tommy Gun, and started firing it one-handed while running all over the goddamned battlefield like a fucking maniac, blasting the holy living shit out of anything with a gray helmet. He cleared out the third machine gun position with the Tommy Gun, changed the magazine, and then started running towards the main body of the enemy position, by himself, shooting the machine gun with his off-hand, wasting Nazis left and right in a hail of gigantic bullets. Finally, after rampaging like a madman, Inouye was shot in the leg, lost his footing, and fell down a hill. Unable to move, but unwilling to back down, Inouye propped himself up against the nearest tree, kept firing, and refused to be evauated until his Sergeants had moved the unit into position and prepared defenses for the inevitable German counterattack. All told, he had killed 25 Germans and wounded 8 more, and he'd literally done it all single-handedly. When the men in his unit came to the hospital and recounted the events to Inouye, his exact words were, "No, that can't be... you'd have to be insane to do all that."
No shit.
No, not really. He was a Democrat after all.
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:01 pm
by LTS TRN 2
He sure was. And let's compare his behavior in the military with that of the most prominent military veteran Republican (for whom--along with his running mate-- you proudly voted in '08), John McCain...on the deck of the U.S.S. Forrestal
Something made the plane behind McCain fire a rocket, which hit McCain's external center fuel tank, and caused a fire. McCain panicked, and dropped two bombs into the fire.
Surviving crewmen of the USS Forrestal and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane.
'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.'Wet starting' was a common practice among young 'hot-dog' pilots.
In McCain's case, the 'wet-start''cooked off' and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk's fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it's 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire."
Yeah, he was the ONLY serviceman transferred after the disaster. The rest of his military career was spent in a box, of course. And the rest...
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:24 pm
by mvscal
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
In McCain's case, the 'wet-start''cooked off' and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk's fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it's 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire."
Pure, 100% bullshit. Here's the deck plan for the Forrestal. 110 is the plane which malfunctioned. McCain's plane is 416 and the rocket struck 405. Every single word of your post is a fucking lie.
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:54 am
by titlover
Lts trn, any response?
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:25 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
mvscal wrote:
Pure, 100% bullshit.
Felchco is just parroting the same left/libertarian/conspiracy drivel that's been wafting around Pacifica/KPFA for over a decade now.
Why do you even bother?
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:29 am
by LTS TRN 2
No one's backing off--especially from the tedious twaddle of 1-malt, a complete Hannity parrot bitch. Here's the story that he and the phony Tea Baggers don't want you to know..
The Navy released John McCain’s military record after a Freedom of Information Act request from the Associated Press. The record is packed with information on McCain’s medals and commendations but little else. The one thing that the McCain campaign does not want to see released is the record of McCain’s antics on board the USS Forestal in 1967. McCain was personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy. That catastrophe, with 27 dead and over 100 wounded trumps McCain’s record as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam.
WMR has learned additional details regarding the deadly fire aboard the Navy aircraft carrier, the USS Forrestal, on July 19, 1967 in the Gulf of Tonkin. The additional details point to then-Lt. Commander John McCain playing more of a role in triggering the fire and explosions than previously reported.
On January 16, 2006, WMR reported that according to a US Navy sailor who was aboard the Forrestal on the fateful day of the fire, “McCain and the Forrestal’s skipper, Capt. John K. Beling, were warned about the danger of using M-65 1000-lb. bombs manufactured in 1935, which were deemed too dangerous to use during World War II and, later, on B-52 bombers. The fire from the Zuni missle misfire resulted in the heavy 1000 pound bombs being knocked loose from the pylons of McCain’s A-4 aircraft, which were only designed to hold 500-pound bombs.”
WMR further reported, “The unstable bombs had a 60-second cook-off threshold in a fire situation and this warning was known to both Beling and McCain prior to the disaster.” WMR also cited the potential that McCain’s Navy records were used against him by the neo-cons in control of the Pentagon, “The neo-cons, who have had five years to examine every file within the Department of Defense, have likely accessed documents that could prove embarrassing to McCain, who was on board the USS Forrestal on July 29, 1967, and whose A-4 Skyhawk was struck by an air-toground Zuni missile that had misfired from an F-4 Phantom.”
WMR has been informed that crewmen aboard the Forrestal have provided additional information about the Forrestal incident. It is believed by many crewmen and those who have investigated the case that McCain deliberately “wet-started” his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. “Wet-starts”, done either deliberately or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.
In McCain’s case, the “wet-start” apparently “cooked off” and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions and massive fire. The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration. “Wet starting” was apparently a common practice among young “hot-dog” pilots.
McCain was quickly transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred). Three months later, McCain was shot down over North Vietnam on October 26, 1967.
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:37 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
How was your Christmas, Felchco? What did Santa bring you?
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:53 am
by LTS TRN 2
I celebrate Solstice. The events depicted in the gospels never actually occurred, as has been discussed. It was a "perfect man" myth, launched because of the destruction of Jerusalem in 73 ade. As always, the "perfect man" cult was initiated with the Perfect Man having already gone through the exact same story--born to a virgin, embarked on a 3-year mission at age 30, sacrificed by his own people, 3 days in the ground, ascension in heaven, and...MOST IMPORTANT...the cult now awaits his imminent return. That's it, the whole thing, it had no natural appeal, and was spread at the point of a sword by Rome. It was first and foremost a Roman cult. Saul (or Paul) never visited Jerusalem, for example. So, no, I don't "celebrate'" this contagion, though I appreciate the season-ending celebratory Yule spirit (onto which the Christers shamelessly glommed). Gifts which I gave and received are of no interest to you, a fake Canadian.
As for your silly swipe at KPFA, who are you kidding? You are such a fraud as to make 1-malt seem ...well, just like you :wink:
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 6:54 am
by LTS TRN 2
Willers, the Christers moved in on the solstice, so..why should we just cede it to them?
Re: A great American has passed away...
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:45 pm
by Mikey
Papa Willie wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Willers, the Christers moved in on the solstice, so..why should we just cede it to them?
Do you share presents around this time of year? If you do, you're a total fucking hypocrite (well known fact, anyway).
And on the twenty-fifth day of the twelfth month, on his real, actual thirty-third birthday, Jesus gathered his family around a plastic lebanon cedar. And they exchanged gifts of rare aromatic resins, herbs, dried fruits and gaily wrapped toys. And when this was done he sent Mary Magdalene off to Murray's for bagels and lox while he fixed mimosas and the children had a snowball fight outside. When the morning meal was finished they drove out to the Catskills to visit Joseph and Mary and go for a wonderful sleigh ride.
And when all this was done he broke the evening bread and said, "Do this in memory of me."
