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The next Aaron Rodgers?

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:53 pm
by M2
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The #1 Junior College player in the country last year, and word is that he more talented than Rodgers. I maybe a little biased since he went to the same high school as I did. :wink:

Once he gets the mechanics down he should be a big plus for the Bears and will be one of the reasons Cal will knock off SC again.

Last year the Bears had a top 20 recruiting class, and this year they had the 7th ranked recruitng class in the country. Looks like a good year on the hill for the Bears!


San Francisco Chronicle
New Cal QB just trying to get in tune
Ayoob using spring to learn Bears' offense

Bruce Adams, Chronicle Staff Writer

Sunday, April 17, 2005

Joseph Ayoob led all California JC quarterbacks in passin...




Think of Joseph Ayoob as a violinist who sits down with the symphony and quickly encounters a significant obstacle.

"It's like trying to play an instrument when you have no experience," he said.

Luckily for Ayoob, the maestro is a patient man.

"It's totally natural," Cal coach Jeff Tedford said. "In no way, shape or form am I disappointed with what he's doing. He's new. He's working hard at it. "

Ayoob is the latest in a distinguished line of quarterbacks to come under Tedford -- learning a sophisticated and complex offense and, at the same time, relearning the basics of the position.

Tedford has it down to an art form, turning out first-round NFL Draft picks with regularity -- Trent Dilfer and David Carr at Fresno State, Akili Smith and Joey Harrington at Oregon, and Kyle Boller at Cal. He will soon have a sixth, with Aaron Rodgers, whose early departure leaves a major void.

Ayoob was recruited from City College of San Francisco where he was the state Junior College Player of the Year last season -- ranking No. 1 in the state in passing efficiency and leading an offense that averaged 500.1 yards a game.

He enrolled at Cal early, in time for spring practice. He's been sharing snaps with redshirt freshman Nathan Longshore, who was No. 3 on the depth chart last year. Mostly Ayoob's been learning.

"There are flashes where he really shows that he has great ability," Tedford said. There are also spells where he appears unsure of himself and his throws are off target."

"There are so many little things on every play that you have to know," Ayoob said. "It has to become second nature. Until that happens you can't really be comfortable. And if you're not comfortable, you're not going to be able to run the offense."

It's complicated by the fact that Tedford doesn't hold anything back -- giving his new quarterbacks the entire offense in a single overwhelming dose.

Tedford stresses that spring practice is all about learning. Longshore is taking more reps with the starting offense by virtue of being the incumbent, Tedford said, noting there won't be any competition for the starter's job until fall camp.

"That's when it begins," Tedford said. "And it never ends."

First off, Tedford went to work on Ayoob's throwing motion -- taking particular note of his non-throwing arm.

It was all new to Ayoob, who says he didn't have the benefit of fine- tuned quarterback coaching at City College or at Terra Linda High in San Rafael.

"My left arm was kind of wild and would swing out," Ayoob said. "It would throw my shoulders off and open me up, causing the balls to not be as accurate as they should be."

As he had done with Boller three years ago, Tedford rigged up a harness to keep Ayoob's left arm close to his body -- giving him a more compact throwing motion and an improved alignment.

He also has been showing Ayoob "before and after" video clips of his former protégés, illustrating the refinements made in their throwing motions.

Tedford has a laundry list of qualities he prizes in quarterbacks -- mental and physical toughness, intelligence, a competitive nature, mobility and a solid throwing motion -- and he says Ayoob has all five.

In making the transition to Cal he's shown his intelligence not just in the classroom but in forming his new social circle as well.

"You've got to make friends with the offensive linemen," he said. "I know who's watching my back.

Cal Bears


m2

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:23 pm
by the_ouskull
Don't you mean the same High School that you DO?

the_ouskull

Re: The next Aaron Rodgers?

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:32 pm
by Mr T
m2 wrote: Once he gets the mechanics down he should be a big plus for the Bears and will be one of the reasons Cal will knock off SC again.
If he is a junior he should already have his mechanics down.

Re: The next Aaron Rodgers?

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:41 pm
by M2
Mr T wrote:
m2 wrote: Once he gets the mechanics down he should be a big plus for the Bears and will be one of the reasons Cal will knock off SC again.
If he is a junior he should already have his mechanics down.
There's always room for improvement, and it doesn't hurt to have one of the best qb coaches in the country to help you out.(Tedford)

First off, Tedford went to work on Ayoob's throwing motion -- taking particular note of his non-throwing arm.

It was all new to Ayoob, who says he didn't have the benefit of fine- tuned quarterback coaching at City College or at Terra Linda High in San Rafael.

"My left arm was kind of wild and would swing out," Ayoob said. "It would throw my shoulders off and open me up, causing the balls to not be as accurate as they should be."

As he had done with Boller three years ago, Tedford rigged up a harness to keep Ayoob's left arm close to his body -- giving him a more compact throwing motion and an improved alignment.

He also has been showing Ayoob "before and after" video clips of his former protégés, illustrating the refinements made in their throwing motions.



m2

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:00 am
by King Crimson
next time he doesn't get blown out by Texas Tech, a defensive powerhouse. please post again.

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:51 am
by Cicero
Tedford sucks dick.

Sincerely,

Norm Chow

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:20 pm
by Killian
I was waiting for the "another overrated Tedford QB?" post but it never came. So, I'll say it:

Another overrated Tedford QB?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:06 am
by Left Seater
The next Aaron Rodgers?
What gives you an indication that this guy will bitch and moan about the bowl he is playing in prior to laying an egg in his bowl game?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:08 am
by Mr T
Left,

Its the west coast. Of course he is going to bitch.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:14 pm
by M2
I feel the rap on Tedford qb's is an unfair one. If you want to rap Tedford you can make the case that he sucks as a head coach and I wouldn't have to much of an argument.

Tedford took guys with average talent and made them top NFL draft picks. This is the "College football" forum and not the "NFL forum". Ayoob and Rodgers actually have talent which the other qb's didn't have. Rodgers gets a pass on the Tech game since he had his top 4 wide receivers out of the game. The 2 starters for Cal that didn't play were the best two wide-outs in the Pac-10. Why Tedford and the coaching staff never blitzed Tech on defense will always be a mystery to me. The same goes for the offense. Tedford keep trying to run the O like they had the star wide-outs with 50% run 50% pass and never made the adjustment. When Cal ran the ball against Tech they had a 7 point lead and Arrington had over 100 yards rushing in the 1st quarter alone! They never went back to the run which is another one of the Tedford mystery's I cant figure out.

Back to the point...

Ayoob will have Hawkins(one of the top Juco) wide receivers in the country last year and Desmond Bishop(the MVP) of the high school All-Star in San Antonio last year to throw to. I think it will be a good year for the Cal O with Lynch replacing Arrington, but the D is gonna have early trouble with only 3 starters returning.


m2

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:57 pm
by Jimmy Medalions
:lol:

How many INT's in the last three games???

:lol:

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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:13 pm
by Cross Traffic
Some throwing motion....eh Aboob?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:34 am
by Jimmy Medalions

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:48 am
by PSUFAN
who the devil is aaron rodgers? is he hungused?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:33 am
by Jimmy Medalions
*cough*

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:12 am
by M2
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Nate Longshore...

6 foot 4, 230 lbs... with a cannon!

You're lucky he went down with an ankle injury in the first game of the season... he was only 9-13 for 113 yards and TD in the first qrt... before he went down.

Nate, along with our other 2 Elite 11 qb's Reed and Riley...

We'll be ready for you next year... :twisted:

You wanna to make a call on who takes the Pac 10 next year???

:lol: :lol: :lol:


m2

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:15 am
by GreginPG
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Nate Longshore...

6 foot 4, 230 lbs... with a cannon!

You're lucky he went down with an ankle injury in the first game of the season... he was only 9-13 for 113 yards and TD in the first qrt... before he went down.

Nate, along with our other 2 Elite 11 qb's Reed and Riley...

Will be ready for you next year... :twisted:

You wanna to make a call on who takes the Pac 10 next year???

:lol: :lol: :lol:


m2
Already looking toward next year? :lol:

I see that Kal fan is pretty much being Kal fan again.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:23 am
by Mikey
Booya

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:40 am
by Laxplayer
Longshore is a stud. We interviewed him during one of our broadcasts this year because his brother is a Jr. Great kid, solid as a freaking rock. It's a shame because I'm going to root for him which then means I'm rooting for the same thing M2 is. I may need counseling.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:41 am
by M2
GreginPG wrote:
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Nate Longshore...

6 foot 4, 230 lbs... with a cannon!

You're lucky he went down with an ankle injury in the first game of the season... he was only 9-13 for 113 yards and TD in the first qrt... before he went down.

Nate, along with our other 2 Elite 11 qb's Reed and Riley...

Will be ready for you next year... :twisted:

You wanna to make a call on who takes the Pac 10 next year???

:lol: :lol: :lol:


m2
Already looking toward next year? :lol:


I see that Kal fan is pretty much being Kal fan again.

Oh, I forgot...

He's coming back...



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Marshawn Lynch... :twisted:

He went 12 carries for 87 yards against you last weekend when you went 9 in the box against us...

... and he went a week earlier for 198 yards with 9 in the box...against Oregon!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh yeah...

the best wide receiver in the country, will be a soph....

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Desean Jackson...


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m2

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:07 am
by WolverineSteve
Strong push...when do the polls close?

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:25 am
by M2
WolverineSteve wrote:Strong push...when do the polls
close?
Early Sept... in Michigan...


the truth

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:33 am
by BlindRef
m2 wrote:
WolverineSteve wrote:Strong push...when do the polls
close?
Early Sept... in Michigan...


the truth
I never thought I'd see the day that Cal is looking up at Michigan State when it comes to interesting takes and football knowledge.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:12 am
by M2
BlindRef wrote:
m2 wrote:
WolverineSteve wrote:Strong push...when do the polls
close?
Early Sept... in Michigan...


the truth
I never thought I'd see the day that Cal is looking up at Michigan State when it comes to interesting takes and football knowledge.
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Good luck with that... Big Ten guy... :lol:


the truth

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:41 am
by The Seer
Laxplayer wrote: I'm rooting for the same thing M2 is. I definitely, without a doubt, unquestionably need counseling.

FTFY-NC




Upon further consultation, your hatred for all that is SCum, gets you a free pass. Counseling assignment rescinded....

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:00 am
by SoCalTrjn
Longshore is a cool kid, a So Cal, guess tedford couldnt find a No Cal signal caller worth a crap.

But before you start beating on your plastic chain male covered chest Longshores numbers were put up vs Sacramento State, thats like SEC fan getting geeked over stats vs Louisiana Lafayette

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:52 pm
by Sky
Wait...on the subject of this thread:


Who gives a fuck

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:56 pm
by GreginPG
Sky wrote:Wait...on the subject of this thread:


Who gives a fuck
Well actually m2ool did. Dude gave a fuck so much that he posted that tripe before Ayoob had ever taken a snap in a D1 game.

It was pretty funny then.

It's fucking hysterical now.

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:55 pm
by Sirfindafold
PSUFAN wrote:who the devil is aaron rodgers? is he hungused?
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:54 am
by M2
SoCalTrjn wrote:Longshore is a cool kid, a So Cal, guess tedford couldnt find a No Cal signal caller worth a crap.
Typical... Socal... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ummmm, SoCal... :lol:

Sweet Pete(your coach) is a NorCal... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks like the only success SoCal has... is due to NorCal!!! :lol:

Without Northern California/San Francisco Bay Area...

$C is just another shithole!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

PC would rather coach Cal... and everyone knows it.

Enjoy our... gift to you! 8)

Without us... you're just a shithole in Watts!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:35 am
by peter dragon
m2 wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:Longshore is a cool kid, a So Cal, guess tedford couldnt find a No Cal signal caller worth a crap.
Typical... Socal... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ummmm, SoCal... :lol:

Sweet Pete(your coach) is a NorCal... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks like the only success SoCal has... is due to NorCal!!! :lol:

Without Northern California/San Francisco Bay Area...

$C is just another shithole!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

PC would rather coach Cal... and everyone knows it.

Enjoy our... gift to you! 8)

Without us... you're just a shithole in Watts!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
my how the low have sunk lower, your down to your coach is from our side of the state smack? lol

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:46 am
by M2
peter dragon wrote:
m2 wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:Longshore is a cool kid, a So Cal, guess tedford couldnt find a No Cal signal caller worth a crap.
Typical... Socal... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ummmm, SoCal... :lol:

Sweet Pete(your coach) is a NorCal... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks like the only success SoCal has... is due to NorCal!!! :lol:

Without Northern California/San Francisco Bay Area...

$C is just another shithole!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

PC would rather coach Cal... and everyone knows it.

Enjoy our... gift to you! 8)

Without us... you're just a shithole in Watts!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
my how the low have sunk lower, your down to your coach is from our side of the state smack? lol
Only Peter Dragon... is so slow not to see the context of the post... :lol: :lol: :lol:


m2

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:03 am
by Van
Last year the Bears had a top 20 recruiting class, and this year they had the 7th ranked recruiting class in the country.

Meaning, Cal got some of USC's rejects.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:24 am
by Cross Traffic
The only truth is that m2 is Van's and SoCalTrojan's bitch.