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What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:45 pm
by Mikey
Maker's Mark Shitting the Bed

So 'Spray, what's the #2 option...Kirkland 7 year old?

Less Potent Maker's Mark Not Going Down Smoothly In Kentucky

Kentucky is bourbon country. Bar shelves in Louisville are stocked with a crowded field of premium bourbons; the city's Theater Square Marketplace restaurant alone carries close to 170 different brands. So when news trickled out that longtime distillery Maker's Mark plans to water down its bourbon, locals were stunned.

Bourbon has to be aged at least two years — and that's where Maker's Mark got in trouble. Chief Operating Officer Rob Samuels says the company simply didn't make enough.

"The phones have been ringing off the hook over the last three or four months from most every city in the country where Maker's Mark is not available," Samuels says. "As far away as California and as close to home as the package store five minutes from the distillery."

Now, the company says it must spread the remaining supply over more bottles to meet growing demand. The Maker's Mark label will now read 84 proof instead of the traditional 90.

The Samuels family invented Maker's Mark six decades ago and has been distilling in Kentucky even longer than that. The company prides itself on quality and tradition. Its slogan used to be, "It tastes expensive ... and is."

Samuels says keeping that signature taste, despite weakening the drink, was key.

But maintaining flavor is one thing — maintaining the company's image is another. People might not notice a change in the taste, but they are likely to notice that the price isn't going down.

"My initial reaction was, that's how bourbons that are not premium brands would deal with it," says Jason Falls, a marketing professional who has worked with Maker's Mark in the past. Knob Creek had a similar shortage in 2009, he says, "and I believe the way the brand dealt with it was they sent T-shirts to all their ambassadors that said, 'I survived the drought ... of 2009.' "

It's unclear if Maker's Mark's move will hurt the brand's global reach. But in Kentucky — bourbon country — locals aren't too happy with the change.

"It's gotten ... a lot of outrage," says Sara Havens, who writes about the bar scene for the Louisville Eccentric Observer newspaper. "People asking if they're going to lower the price now, [or] just that it's kind of not fair."

Havens says she'll still drink Maker's Mark, but probably less often. "[When] you go to a bar and you know one drink is watered down and the other drink is potent, you always go to the potent one," she says.

To avoid another shortage, Maker's Mark is planning to expand operations — and they're not alone. In Kentucky, there are now more barrels of bourbon than there are people. So even if an old standby like Maker's Mark is hard to find, there'll always be something to drink.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/0 ... n-kentucky

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:42 pm
by smackaholic
Looks like the bean counters won out as they usually do.

I suppose this 7% watering down won't chance the product enough for anyone to notice, but the word sure as hell will get around and the competition will buttfukk them in the mouf with it.

Have they recently been bought by someone?

Sounds like it.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:03 pm
by R-Jack
Time to switch to scotch.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:20 pm
by mvscal
Now, the company says it must spread the remaining supply over more bottles to meet growing demand.
It must? I LOL'd.

The better play when demand outstrips supply is to raise your price rather than adulterate your product.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:36 pm
by Smackie Chan
mvscal wrote:The better play when demand outstrips supply is to raise your price rather than adulterate your product.
Right. Then just recycle their old slogan. Problem solved.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:51 pm
by Wolfman
I was wondering if an increase in federal and/or state tax rates on alcohol are a factor.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:54 pm
by mvscal
Wolfman wrote:I was wondering if an increase in federal and/or state tax rates on alcohol are a factor.
A factor in what?

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:09 pm
by smackaholic
KC Scott wrote:They must already have the orders and either water down to fill those PO or cancel, in which case they'll lose the shelf space

Tough decision - no win either way

Bad supply chain management and/or forecasting
The win would have been to jack up the price a bit. This is going to come back and bite them in the ass.

Top shelf hooch cono.....connisewer....conne..... drinkers don't like folks watering down their booze. Maybe they should have just marketed it as makers mark lite.

I suspect they will run some damage control, run a few bazillion dollars worth of ads to say they are sorry and there will be a former bean counter looking for a new yob.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:39 pm
by BSmack
Papa Willie wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maker's_Mark

Jim Beam bought MM in 2005. I didn't even know that until this stuff came out. I think it's dogshit. Charge more, don't fuck with the liquor.
The single WORST drunk in my life was with Jim Beam. That shit is horrible.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:53 pm
by smackaholic
So, you have a contract to deliver X for Y dollars and it's OK to deliver X lite and still charge Y?

Sorry scott, but, you're not making a damn bit of sense.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:11 am
by smackaholic
A contract is a contract. If MM i slocked into a price, it seems to me they are locked into a certain product as well. How can they get away with watering the shit down, but not get away with uping the price. the customer, as you say, would have the option to not pay the higher price.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:43 pm
by Cuda
mvscal wrote:
The better play when demand outstrips supply is to raise your price rather than adulterate your product.

Or you could do both

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:46 pm
by smackaholic
KC Scott wrote:As mentioned - The Distributors have a legal right to cancel the PO for the watered down crap if they choose
If the contract locks in a price, it seems to me that it would lock in the quality of the product. I don't see where product is any more or less negotiable than price. If this really is a binding contract, why not tell MM, fukk you, I want what we agreed to, 90 proof, not watered down shit.

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:22 am
by Van
Papa Willie wrote:...after fucking with MM.
Nope, not a good idea to fuck with MM...


Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:59 pm
by Smackie Chan

Re: What's the world coming to?

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:08 pm
by smackaholic
Yeah, the whole thing did get them some run in the media. I am sure there are a handful of people that went out and bought a bottle because of it.