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I feel safer already!! Baaa baaaa

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The controversial moment SWAT teams ordered innocent neighbors out of their houses at GUNPOINT during door-to-door searches for the Boston bomber

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What a pathetic joke this fucked up country has become.

Kind of reminds one of this, don't it-





We'll all be criminals and called out our front doors soon the way things are going.

Yeah, that's wrong. But it was all in the name of the never ending war on terror, which you endorse, right, mvscunt?

A major American city and it's suburbs we're completely shut down for two days to search for one person. And at the end of the day law enforcement didn't find the guy with all their door to door searches, a citizen did.

You think that's bad? How about a totally fake attack on the pentagon--and no photos or videos are recovered at all...and everyone sort of just believes that an airliner would make a round hole through four walls of concrete and steel. Sure, and how about the whole nation watching WTC 7 fall in obvious controlled demolition fashion--and then seem to be placated with simplistic ready-made explanations. Sure, you should be shocked and disgusted, but not by the panicked cops of Boston.

WW

Yes, and it's not such a shameful fact as a fascinating aspect of human group survival. That is, a large group--and nothing makes us all a group quicker than a terrorist attack, right?--is threatened most by lack of cohesion. That is, losing the group itself. And nothing would cause this quicker and more dramatically than to have the official leadership revealed to be outright criminals--as the case in the PNAC-sponsored New Pearl Harbor.

Admit it, if you knew with 100% surety that Bush and Cheney were right inside the whole clumsy attack, this would be a seriously discomforting event. The shock throughout the world--the markets, the diplomacy, everything--would be in a state of paralysis. And this is exactly why the ludicrous Warren Commission Report has been dutifully swallowed by generations of Americans despite the obvious falsity of its findings.

Of course 9/11 was an inside job. Do you or anyone you know actually believe that (pick one)..oh, that WTC 7 could fall like that after suffering but a fire from "debris"? Or that no videos could be found of the strike on the pentagon--when the roof of that most secured building in the world was covered with cameras?

So...ask yourself. Why and how can people slog on with the so-called official story?

LTS TRN 2 wrote:So...ask yourself. Why and how can people slog on with the so-called official story?

Because (among other reasons) it still causes you to melt into hysterics almost 12 years after the fact?

Don't worry, the videos and photos exist. At some point they will be released. You will still duck dodge and melt. But make no mistake a jet hit both towers and the Pentagon.

Left Seater wrote:But make no mistake a jet hit both towers and the Pentagon.

Damn, all three? That must have been some kind of pilot flying that jet.

mvscal wrote:I feel safer already!! Baaa baaaa

Chowden heraus!!

The controversial moment SWAT teams ordered innocent neighbors out of their houses at GUNPOINT during door-to-door searches for the Boston bomber

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What a pathetic joke this fucked up country has become.

You have to look at it from their point of view: It's a hell of a lot safer to order innocent people around at gunpoint, plus they're a lot more compliant than criminals. So they're obviously not the terrorists they're looking for, so what? Officer safety comes first!

Cuda wrote:You have to look at it from their point of view: It's a hell of a lot safer to order innocent people around at gunpoint, plus they're a lot more compliant than criminals. So they're obviously not the terrorists they're looking for, so what? Officer safety comes first!

Of course this profoundly disturbing display of paramilitary policing wasn't even justified by the poor excuse of producing any results. Shitstain #2 was found outside their search grid by a citizen stepping outside for a smoke. The piggies didn't even have the decency to be embarassed by their ham fisted incompetence. I don't think they even cared. This was merely a conditioning exercise to accustom Americans to "the new normal."

Get ready for more "exigent circumstances" coming to a neighborhood near you.

Wakey wakey

mvscunt...King of the MMQB's.

...So you're OK having the Bronze roust you out of your home at gunpoint on the pretense that there might be a terrorist in your neighborhood?

Ponderous. God, I pity your political predilection...

Left Seater wrote:Don't worry, the videos and photos exist. At some point they will be released. You will still duck dodge and melt. But make no mistake a jet hit both towers and the Pentagon.

Really? That's where "Left Seater" is willing to squat? You can look at that obvious controlled demolition and just march on reciting your tedious simplistic drivel?

Well...if they have a clear video of an actual airliner coming in (at an impossibly low angle) and blasting a deep round hole in a solid wall....where is it? Where?

And if you can offer ANY evidence of Osama Bin Laden being connected to the crime, offer it now. The FBI hasn't offered any evidence whatsoever. So?


Quit faking it. Your childish auto-salute to the Troops is tired and spent. So what if it's twelve years and two wars and hundreds of thousands of American lives wrecked, and our economy bottomed. These dreadful costs alone demand we expose the real culprits. Stand up and be honest.

WW

88 wrote:

mvscal wrote:What a pathetic joke this fucked up country has become.

I don't necessarily disagree with your premise. But I'll play. What should the police do when a couple of chuckleheaded lunatics: (a) set off explosives in a crowded public place causing mass casualties; (b) execute a police officer; (c) car-jack citizens; (d) fire at cops and refuse to surrender; and (e) flee on foot into a community during the dead of night?

Maybe they should have posted some "WANTED" posters and knocked on a few doors?

Maybe they should have hung out at the local Dunkin until one of the residents saw something suspicious?

Maybe they should have dropped a MOAB on Watertown before the shitstain could escape on foot?

To my knowledge, none of the people ordered out of their homes during the search for the fugitive were charged with any crimes based on information gathered by the police during the incursion. What should have been done? Warrants for the search of every house in Watertown until the shitstain was found?

Spoken like a true bootlicker.

By all means canvas the neighborhood. Knock on doors ask people if they have seen the suspect. You know...proper, legal, constitutional police work. Exactly when did it become protocol to lock down a million people, storm into their neighborhoods with thousands of roided out paramilitary jerkoffs and armored vehicles? When did it become acceptable for these shitheads to stick guns in people's faces and order them out of their own homes? Yes, I'm sure the sheeple were duly grateful that they weren't charged with any crimes. That was probably just an oversight which will be corrected the next time our jackbooted overlords decide they want to lock down an entire city just to find one scrawny pisshead.

Pull your fucking head out of your ass, idiot.

So you you're really against jack-booted thugs kicking in doors? Gee, hope they don't just gun them down, disregard any such statistics, and then go home to a medicated nightmare..er...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEvm6vC_CNQ

Sure, you hate jack-boot thugs.....

mvscal wrote:

88 wrote:

mvscal wrote:What a pathetic joke this fucked up country has become.

I don't necessarily disagree with your premise. But I'll play. What should the police do when a couple of chuckleheaded lunatics: (a) set off explosives in a crowded public place causing mass casualties; (b) execute a police officer; (c) car-jack citizens; (d) fire at cops and refuse to surrender; and (e) flee on foot into a community during the dead of night?

Maybe they should have posted some "WANTED" posters and knocked on a few doors?

Maybe they should have hung out at the local Dunkin until one of the residents saw something suspicious?

Maybe they should have dropped a MOAB on Watertown before the shitstain could escape on foot?

To my knowledge, none of the people ordered out of their homes during the search for the fugitive were charged with any crimes based on information gathered by the police during the incursion. What should have been done? Warrants for the search of every house in Watertown until the shitstain was found?

Spoken like a true bootlicker.

By all means canvas the neighborhood. Knock on doors ask people if they have seen the suspect. You know...proper, legal, constitutional police work. Exactly when did it become protocol to lock down a million people, storm into their neighborhoods with thousands of roided out paramilitary jerkoffs and armored vehicles? When did it become acceptable for these shitheads to stick guns in people's faces and order them out of their own homes? Yes, I'm sure the sheeple were duly grateful that they weren't charged with any crimes. That was probably just an oversight which will be corrected the next time our jackbooted overlords decide they want to lock down an entire city just to find one scrawny pisshead.

Pull your fucking head out of your ass, idiot.

If the police had gone that morning to the house where the 2nd suspect was eventually found & just knocked on the door & asked "have you seen any terrorists?" what results would that have produced?

mvscal wrote:Spoken like a true bootlicker.

By all means canvas the neighborhood. Knock on doors ask people if they have seen the suspect. You know...proper, legal, constitutional police work. Exactly when did it become protocol to lock down a million people, storm into their neighborhoods with thousands of roided out paramilitary jerkoffs and armored vehicles? When did it become acceptable for these shitheads to stick guns in people's faces and order them out of their own homes? Yes, I'm sure the sheeple were duly grateful that they weren't charged with any crimes. That was probably just an oversight which will be corrected the next time our jackbooted overlords decide they want to lock down an entire city just to find one scrawny pisshead.

Pull your fucking head out of your ass, idiot.

Since when have you EVER given a shit about people's constitutional rights? This is a never-ending WAR on TERROR. The battlefield is the homeland, if you missed Lindsey Graham's comments.

WAKEY WAKE, idiot.

LTS TRN 2 wrote: Well...if they have a clear video of an actual airliner coming in (at an impossibly low angle) and blasting a deep round hole in a solid wall....where is it? Where?

Yet another example in your cut and paste conspiracy. You have been repeatedly schooled in flight dynamics and the physics of flight, yet comprehend nothing.

Impossibly low angle? Read that again slowly. You seem to suggest that it would be impossible to land a plane yet that happens hundreds of thousands times a day. Further as also repeatedly explained to you planes are quite easy to control near the ground when they enter "ground effect".

At least cut and paste your theories from a reputable sight that understands basic flight dynamics.

Sam, it's so obvious that your psycho "friend" Mr. Conspiracy Guy has gotten to you. You're constantly relating conspiracy theories by pawning them off on that guy, but it long ago became a situation that feels like one of those deals Dins always does where he says, "Or so I've heard...."

"This lunatic friend of mine who is a big conspiracy buff says...."

Uh-huh, Sam. Right.

mvscal wrote: The piggies didn't even have the decency to be embarassed by their ham fisted incompetence. I don't think they even cared.

Well, no... why would they? They were too busy bravely pointing automatic weapons at unarmed citizens who, as obviously as it could possibly be, were not who they were searching for, to be embarassed.

Left Seater wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote: Well...if they have a clear video of an actual airliner coming in (at an impossibly low angle) and blasting a deep round hole in a solid wall....where is it? Where?

Yet another example in your cut and paste conspiracy. You have been repeatedly schooled in flight dynamics and the physics of flight, yet comprehend nothing.

Impossibly low angle? Read that again slowly. You seem to suggest that it would be impossible to land a plane yet that happens hundreds of thousands times a day. Further as also repeatedly explained to you planes are quite easy to control near the ground when they enter "ground effect".

At least cut and paste your theories from a reputable sight that understands basic flight dynamics.

Bullshit. Airliners don't (CAN'T) land at 400 mph. And how does a relatively lightweight aircraft punch a small round hole through four layers of reenforced concrete and steel? And how do massive modern steel-framed buioldings just suddenly fall in controlled demolition fashion because of a "fire?"

You call yourself a pilot? Well talk to these professional pilots. Or rather listen to them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrpNK4lJVc

And if all you've got is snotty dismissals and childish cat-calls, well, this constitutes a total curled surrender. And why are you curling in fear? This has been discussed in my earlier post. You're hardly alone.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:You call yourself a pilot? Well talk to these professional pilots. Or rather listen to them..

If you want to get technical about it, Derron's Commercial Pilot Certificate technically means he's a "professional pilot" too.

Sure, let's really get technical.

Right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZrpNK4lJVc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_fp5kaVYhk

Step up.

That's good and proper of you to express exasperation at the utter lack of any evidence of an airliner hitting one of the most secured facilities in the world--in broad daylight during a maximum alert emergency situation. Yep...that's damn suspicious. But, how can you go on to dutifully remind that "I'm not suggesting a plane didn't hit the building." ? Huh? The real question is how can you continue to assume that an airliner did strike the Pentagon? Based on what?

Cunta wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote:You call yourself a pilot? Well talk to these professional pilots. Or rather listen to them..

If you want to get technical about it, Derron's Commercial Pilot Certificate technically means he's a "professional pilot" too.

And where did I ever say had a Commercial ticket ? Link ?

Don't even have to be a private pilot to understand that LTard, much like you, talks out of his ass. Any 6th grade science student can explain that to both of you.

88 wrote:I don't think your proposed solution would have been particularly effective.

And their tactics were effective? It took six JBTs to "secure" this house, terrorize its occupants and violate their civil rights and their were more in the street. It only takes two officers to politely knock on the door and ask the homeowner if they have seen the suspect and/or anything suspicious and thank them for their cooperation. If nothing else, they would have been able to search at least three times as many homes in the same amount of time.

This country has a history of over-reacting when something bad happens. Just ask some of the Japanese-Americans FDR's people rounded up and forced into internment camps during WWII if you don't believe me.

Is that supposed to make brazen police state tactics OK? Are we what? Just supposed to shrug and say, "That's just our whacky government hysterically overreacting to something bad happening", while some roid tweaking shitheel stands on your porch wiping his ass with the 4th amendment and and his knuckledragging sidekick shoves an MP-5 into your kid's face screaming at him to get his fucking hands up?

You're good with that? You consider that an appropriate police response in a free society governed by the United States Constitution?

LTS TRN 2 wrote:The real question is how can you continue to assume that an airliner did strike the Pentagon? Based on what?

Based on hundreds of eyewitnesses who saw it happen and the presence of airplane parts in the wreckage. What happened to the plane and the people on if it didn't hit the building?

How does Chimpy (dumbest President ever) manage to pull off the most complicated conspiracy in history one involving hundreds if not thousands of people and nobody involved has ever let out the slightest peep. Not even one hint of a leak. Walk me through that.

Derron wrote:

Cunta wrote:

LTS TRN 2 wrote:You call yourself a pilot? Well talk to these professional pilots. Or rather listen to them..

If you want to get technical about it, Derron's Commercial Pilot Certificate technically means he's a "professional pilot" too.

And where did I ever say had a Commercial ticket ? Link ?

Don't even have to be a private pilot to understand that LTard, much like you, talks out of his ass. Any 6th grade science student can explain that to both of you.

So let's see you dispute the professional pilots I've provided. Let's see you actually take a shot at explaining all of the obvious giant holes in the official story. C'mon, don't be a mewling coward. It's time to stand up.

Can it, SS. Unlike the flights of 9/11, this thread really is getting hijacked. Get it?

Now, let's talk about how the allegedly hijacked planes attacking the WTC somehow reached speeds of 520 knots. This is so utterly impossible--and yet is insisted upon by the dreary official analysis. So, if it wasn't a 767, what was it? A drone? From the Air Force base in Tampa? Hmm...

Lots more to come--and consider. :wink:

I remember posting after 9-11 that the inevitable result would be the loss of civil liberties. Years later, certain dong slurping retards still demanded to know "What liberties have you lost!"

And the beat goes on...

88 wrote:The 4th Amendment does not prohibit police searches when they are conducted under “exigent circumstances” such as when a dangerous person sought by the police for committing a felony such as murder has likely taken refuge in a home during a police chase.

Exigent circumstances most certainly do NOT permit a paramilitary operation of this scope and scale. Since when did we start locking down an entire community and invade it with an army of poorly trained yet heavily armed yokels when searching for a fugitive? This was not hot pursuit.

You're also ducking the question.

No, the question is...what evidence has ever been presented that Osama Bin Laden had anything to do with the New Pearl Harbor? I mean besides the immediate announcement by Cheney? And even he has since admitted there's no actual evidence of Bin Laden's involvement.

And how do the supposed hijackers--no evidence that any of them were even on the planes--could have flown those impossible maneuvers? So many questions that you're so unprepared to deal with.

mvscal wrote:

88 wrote:The 4th Amendment does not prohibit police searches when they are conducted under “exigent circumstances” such as when a dangerous person sought by the police for committing a felony such as murder has likely taken refuge in a home during a police chase.

Exigent circumstances most certainly do NOT permit a paramilitary operation of this scope and scale. Since when did we start locking down an entire community and invade it with an army of poorly trained yet heavily armed yokels when searching for a fugitive? This was not hot pursuit.

You're also ducking the question.

Your country has been whipped up into an anti-terror frenzy for over a decade.

You getting all pissy about it ain't gonna call the dogs off now.

BSmack wrote:I remember posting after 9-11 that the inevitable result would be the loss of civil liberties. Years later, certain dong slurping retards still demanded to know "What liberties have you lost!"

And the beat goes on...

A whole lot of liberties have been surrendered because of the entirely fake attacks. Where to begin? How about American citizens being spied on and wire-tapped? How about an entire black ops network becoming mainstream--and we're still in the dark?

88 wrote:If the cops canvased the neighborhood knocking on doors, and only entering the places where the residents said "C'mon in, officer", you would run the risk of more cops being blown away or of the dude escaping.

So what? I'm far more comfortable with that outcome than living in a police state. You have lost your mind along with your balls not to mention your freedom.

Derron wrote:
And where did I ever say had a Commercial ticket ? Link ?.

You don't? I seem to remember you claiming you had a Commercial certificate. I sincerely apologize for giving you too much credit.

mvscal wrote: How does Chimpy (dumbest President ever) manage to pull off the most complicated conspiracy in history one involving hundreds if not thousands of people and nobody involved has ever let out the slightest peep. Not even one hint of a leak. Walk me through that.

it was Darth Cheney

mvscal wrote:

88 wrote:If the cops canvased the neighborhood knocking on doors, and only entering the places where the residents said "C'mon in, officer", you would run the risk of more cops being blown away or of the dude escaping.

So what? I'm far more comfortable with that outcome than living in a police state. You have lost your mind along with your balls not to mention your freedom.

I think you've hit on 88's definition of "libertarian".

If you look at Dubya staring dumbly at the child's book in the kindergarten classroom--while being instructed by Ari Fleischer to stay there and stare, well, this pretty much sums up the Chimp's role in the complicated conspiracy. Lets talk about Dov Zakheim. :wink: