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A jury found Dr Gosnell guilty of killing four recently delivered babies outside of the mother's womb. There are reports of this going on across the country, but who is going to report it? Surely not the mother who was fine killing the baby anyway nor is the Dr who is doing the actual killing.

This should also help the bills making their way thru state legislatures that will require abortion facilities to have certain infant life saving equipment on hand in case the infant is alive outside the womb. If life begins at birth, then even the pro-choicers should support this verdict and the requirements to have upgraded infant life saving devices.

Props also to the DA or whomever brought charges against this so called Dr.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... l/2155175/

KC Scott wrote:but that was the one of the most horrific things I'd ever seen or read.

That was?


Oh well...back to the drawing board.

While I don't agree with your position that it is a choice I do respect you for sticking to the argument that life begins at birth and not changing it today to defend this guys actions. TV has had a steady stream of people today trying to dance around that his actions weren't murder.

Left Seater wrote:I do respect you

I don't.

I just don't see how anyone can think that something changes simply due to an event called birth.

The idea that it is perfectly acceptable to whack a little shit based solely on his residence at that moment makes not fukking sense. Killing a perfectly viable baby on either side of the Uterus is the same thing. If the mother claims it's "her body" and she can do with it as she pleases, then fine, deliver the kid, naturally or through C-section and give the little bastard a chance at life.

I do think first trimester abortion should remain legal.

Jsc810 wrote:life begins at birth.

Gaysc's 3rd wife browbeats her easily cowed husband into digging her a garden in the back yard so she can plant some tomatos. Gaysc is all too happy to oblige, hoping it will keep her bitch ass out the house for a few blessed minutes a day during the summer while she tends them. He can then watch MMA or reruns of 90210 in peace.

The planting occurs and wifey dutifully attends them, weeding and watering, occasionally adding some Miracle Grow in hopes of a bumper crop. Gaysc looks out the window one day during a commercial break and see's they are starting to flower. He wrinkles his forehead in consternation... he really hates tomatos and is afraid this bitch is going to make him eat a salad.

One day, about 45 days into fruition, while she's away shopping at the Dollar Tree and he's in between chasing ambulances, he happens upon a brilliant idea...

"Eureka!" he says to himself:

"these tomatos haven't been born yet!"

Gaysc rushes from the house, nearly breaking his neck, and proceeds to hack those healthy tomato plants with every rusty garden implement at his disposal.

Returning to the dilapidated house with a smug, self satisfied look on his fat face, he encounters slut #3 with shopping bags in both hands and a look of pure malice on her face as she witnesses the destruction.

"How could you," she screams, "after I bought you some Nacho Cheese Bugles and Vienna Sausages?

And this is the thanks I get?"

that was pretty damn funny, wags

You're a monster, Jsc.

I might make life a living hell for my victims. But at least they are alive. And where there's life there's hope.

Toddowen wrote:

KC Scott wrote:but that was the one of the most horrific things I'd ever seen or read.

That was?


Oh well...back to the drawing board.

No shit..somebody trying to upstage Todd's lurid fantasy's of bondage, kidnap, rape and all that perverted sick shit..now we have to hear what he comes up with to top that.

Jsc810 wrote:I personally am opposed to forced pregnancy and forced birth.

Who said anything about that?

Nobody here has been.

What you've been advocating all along is basically abortion on demand, for any reason, right up until the moment of birth.

Isn't that so? If not, clarify your stance.

I wasn't aware there was a "forced pregnancy" problem in this country. Are there dudes with cans of chloroform and turkey basters lurking about?

smackaholic wrote:Are there dudes with cans of chloroform and turkey basters lurking about?

Yeah, but he's pulling a double shift at the machine shop tonight so I don't think he has much time to post in this thread.

Jsc810 wrote: I personally am opposed to forced pregnancy

Aren't we all? Well maybe all of us but Toddowen. Forced pregnancy can only mean rape with conception, right? I doubt that was what Jsc was thinking though, so until he comes in here to define it lets take a few guesses.

What does Jsc mean by forced pregnancy?

A) The Catholic Church not supporting birf control

IV) See Toddowen types

7) Anyone/anything opposing Planned Parenthood

Lamp) Hood rats just trying to get more paper

Jsc810 wrote:He should have been convicted, life begins at birth.

Tedious. No it doesn't. So a Law Degree all-of-a-sudden makes you a Biologist?

The ignorance of that take alone disqualifies you from any further discussion on this topic.

Thanks for playing, Baby Killer.

Martyred wrote:

smackaholic wrote:Are there dudes with cans of chloroform and turkey basters lurking about?

Yeah, but he's pulling a double shift at the machine shop tonight so I don't think he has much time to post in this thread.

...at least that's what he told us. Has anyone called the machine shop to verify?

Left Seater wrote:
IV) See Toddowen types

You see one every morning when you raise your mug to the mirror.


C'mon, Seatyr. I've always been respectful towards you. Now it's time for you to come clean.

A big guy like you with a pretty petite Mrs...

Don't tell me you haven't an assortment of masks, restraints, and gloves that you break out at least every third day.

Mirror? I am not female. What the hell would I need with a mirror?

If you keep the hair cut nice and short one need not look in the mirror to leave the house or hotel. Same thing with shaving. The sideburns have been in the same place for 25 years. No need for a mirror to hit the same spot each day.


No masks, gloves, etc here. I out kicked the coverage and don't need "tools" to get the job done.

Jsc810 wrote:Accidental pregnancy. Woman doesn't want to carry it to term.

Fuck you. There is not such thing as an accidental pregnancy.

Long damned way around to get to forced pregnancy.

If that is one of the new talking points, like anti-choice was a few years ago, it is time to go back to the pro-murder label for those who favor abortion.


Forced pregnancy... :doh:

Jsc810 wrote:Accidental pregnancy.

Poor choice of words. Unintentional, unplanned, or inadvertent might be more appropriate, though the pile-ons will still ensue.

Jsc810 wrote:Abortion is one of those things where it is really easy to sit back and spew self-righteous opinions, until one day the issue hits home, and it is no longer an academic matter to you. Then the justifications start, and the only moral abortion is my abortion.

Rack those chicks.

Sin,
My high school girlfriend.

no, not pregnant with my child.....................yes, after we broke up

KC Scott wrote:

Left Seater wrote: it is time to go back to the pro-murder label for those who favor abortion.

Very extermist position

What about the morning after pill?

Agreed it is an extreme label, but you have to fight fire with fire. Why should abortion supporters be allowed to frame the discussion only on their terms? The use anti choice and forced pregnancy instead of pro life. They do this for a reason to define the debate on their terms. Why should that be limited only to their side?

I'm glad we're having the abortion debate on here for the 3,478th time. I'm sure new perspectives will be shared and minds will be changed.

88's example sure seems to discriminate against fathers.

Oh, wait, I forgot, discrimination is fine as long as it is legal and supports a certain ideology.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I'm glad we're having the abortion debate on here for the 3,478th time. I'm sure new perspectives will be shared and minds will be changed.

Yeah. Save all this energy for more open-ended discussions like the death penalty and gay marriage.

Jsc810 wrote:Accidental pregnancy. Woman doesn't want to carry it to term.

Then she should've kept her dick in her pants.

I hope you accidentally kill yourself.

War Wagon wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:Accidental pregnancy. Woman doesn't want to carry it to term.

Then she should've kept her dick in her pants.

I'd go accidentally learn anatomy if I were you.

Either that or you and Screw like the same kind of women.

Jsc810 wrote:Only of you think it is strange that a mother gets to decide what happens to her own body.

Her body, her choice, and what not, correct?


Fail.


If it is all about her body and her choice then why is prostitution illegal? Why do we restrict her from injecting, snorting, inhaling, etc certain drugs? If she does these things in certain ways she isn't a danger to others.

We all know that second hand smoke is a danger especially to young kids. Since it is her body and therefore her choice, why can't a 10 year old kid kill her father when he forces her to live in his house where he smokes 3 packs a day?