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Impeachment.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:33 pm
by mvscal
Beeelieve it. Not a good week for Bluegums O'Nixon. I'm sure he will take solace from the fact that his faithful mop driver, Screwy, will stick around to suckle his yambag.

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Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:38 pm
by R-Jack
Who's going to be his David Frost?

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:47 pm
by mvscal
Do you mean John Dean? We'll see when the screws start to tighten.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:48 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
mvscal wrote:Beeelieve it.

For what? The IRS/Teabagger thing?

:meds:


Are you drunk?

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:51 pm
by mvscal
Yes. It's not an eyeroll. It's a serious crime as well as a very straight forward abuse of power.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:54 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Martyred wrote:Are you drunk?
mvscal wrote:Yes.

The defense rests, your honour.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:00 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
I'll join you buddy...just cracked a Czech pilsner...

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:06 am
by Wolfman
Don't see it happening. And can't imagine Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ever taking that walk to the White House and forcing any action. Imagine the consequences within the hoi polloi if Barry was actually tossed out or forced to resign. Bet Harry Truman is wondering whatever happened to "the buck stops here" when it comes to leadership.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:08 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Wolfman wrote:Bet Harry Truman is wondering whatever happened to "the buck stops here" when it comes to leadership.
That notion was garroted to death sometime during the Iran/Contra hearings.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:24 am
by War Wagon
and be stuck with smilin' Joe?

No thanks.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:28 am
by Toddowen
Wolfman wrote:Don't see it happening. And can't imagine Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ever taking that walk to the White House and forcing any action. Imagine the consequences within the hoi polloi if Barry was actually tossed out or forced to resign. Bet Harry Truman is wondering whatever happened to "the buck stops here" when it comes to leadership.

Yep.


Obama impeached?


What are you, kidding me? :lol:


The press won't even ask for someone to take the fall unless it's a certified teabagger.



If he really believes that Barry would get impeached then that is proof positive that Mvscal has lost all grip on reality. Perhaps someone needs to take down the shower rod at Casa de Mvscaak.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:40 am
by Screw_Michigan
mvscal wrote:Yes. It's not an eyeroll. It's a serious crime as well as a very straight forward abuse of power.
Why? Because the IRS was actually doing its job and filtering out the bullshit 501(c)4 applications from the legitimate ones?

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:08 am
by Screw_Michigan
KC Scott wrote:between the Caps and Harper hitting the wall, this has been a tough week for you screwy
I am far from the Obama ball-licker I'm portrayed to be here.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:54 am
by jiminphilly
Screw_Michigan wrote:
KC Scott wrote:between the Caps and Harper hitting the wall, this has been a tough week for you screwy
I am far from the Obama ball-licker I'm portrayed to be here.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/14/irs-o ... s-charity/

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:20 am
by Y2K
Screw_Michigan wrote:
mvscal wrote:Yes. It's not an eyeroll. It's a serious crime as well as a very straight forward abuse of power.
Why? Because the IRS was actually doing its job and filtering out the bullshit 501(c)4 applications from the legitimate ones?

That might actually hold some water if the the IRS hadn't already admitted to skewing the criteria. This is politics at its worst...Hope and change!

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:01 am
by mvscal
Screw_Michigan wrote:
mvscal wrote:Yes. It's not an eyeroll. It's a serious crime as well as a very straight forward abuse of power.
Why? Because the IRS was actually doing its job and filtering out the bullshit 501(c)4 applications from the legitimate ones?
You are, as usual, drowning in your own mop bucket. The IRS wasn't "actually doing its job." Unless you consider strong-arming political opposition to be within its purview.

Your master has claimed that this was "outrageous" and he intends to get to the bottom of it...your bottom to be precise. The conduct was an egregious abuse of power, it has been documented and verified. The only question remaining is how far up the ladder this slime trail leads. We all know who benefited from the action.

Yes, you should be nervous...like a confused steer being herded into the chute.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:14 am
by Toddowen
Nothing is going to happen to Obama.

You really think the same set of circumstances that applied to Richard Nixon 40 years ago hold today? Back then the press was all too eager to dispose of him. Today the liberal press is, to quote a mythical contemporary media voice from back in the day...
Howard Beale wrote:"This tube is the Gospel, the ultimate revelation. This tube can make or break presidents, popes, prime ministers... This tube is the most awesome God-damned force in the whole godless world, and woe is us if it ever falls in to the hands of the wrong people."

Well "this tube" has been in the wrong hands for years now. And in that time "this tube" has been tested and trouble-shooted. "This tube" has gone through rigorous crash tests and nondestructive testing, seismographic tests, biological and germ warfare tests, class upheaval and racial rebellion tests. It's even gone through one of the most feared tests of them all- the strained marriage test. And It passed with ease.

To think that Obama is going to be rode out of DC is nonsense. To coin a phrase- he is "too big to fail". The ultimate and complete destruction of our cities and towns will occur before the POTUS is removed from office or graciously steps down, as Richard Nixon was forced to do 40 years ago.


It's the media is who is in charge. And it's the media who really needs to have their heads placed one by one onto the fucking guillotine!!! Starting with the shot caller Kings all the way down to the Screwy pawns.


But until that happens, just be prepared to have a puke towel ready at your side as you continue to read the same old same old. The same shit eating truth peddled scandal after scandal.

And don't think for a minute that this affects the current political regime. This is war. I forget which Axis power figure said of America in WW2 that if the US had suffered any more defeat in the Pacific that it would then just 'kick it up a notch". The same holds true here. The socialist regime will just kick it up a notch and laugh all the more.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:50 am
by Diego in Seattle
Attempts at impeachments of democratic presidents has been more about payback for Nixon than the transgressions of the democratic presidents.

I mean, burglary of the DNC offices = blow job? Seriously?

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:18 pm
by Smackie Chan
Diego in Seattle wrote:Attempts at impeachments of democratic presidents has been more about payback for Nixon than the transgressions of the democratic presidents.

I mean, burglary of the DNC offices = blow job? Seriously?
If it turns out that the Prez either knew of, authorized, or directed the IRS to unlawfully target teabaggers or otherwise abuse the power of his office, I'd say that's a little more egregious than having an intern suck his pud, and would qualify as a legitimate impeachable offense. Of course, merely being guilty of such an offense is far from a guarantee that he'll actually be impeached, which at this point I'd consider to be highly unlikely. But I'll wait until Fox News reports the grisly details, since I'm all about, you know, being all fair & balanced & stuff.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:50 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Tea Party = anti-Jew, anti-banker

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:08 pm
by Smackie Chan
Sudden Sam wrote:AP phone records
I figured this was more up Shrub's alley. His association with AP is something else entirely.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:10 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Sudden Sam wrote:IRS, Benghazi, and AP phone records shit should be enough to knock Obama out.
You forgot Fast and the Furious. Is there anything this incompetent Justice Department can't fuck up? Holy fuck.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:43 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
warrant-less wiretapping

The Bradley Manning case

aiding pro Al Queda elements in Syria

Obama making a deal with the GOP not to seek prosecution of Bush torturers

Indefinite detentions

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:52 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Silly playground games like impeachment talk are amusing bits of whimsy, but when the security of your precious "republic" comes under scrutiny, you'll all fold like good little state-ists.

You don't even have the balls to mockingly refer to the Obama Administration as a "regime"...that's how brainwashed you are.
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Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:35 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote: Why? Because the IRS was actually doing its job and filtering out the bullshit 501(c)4 applications from the legitimate ones?
IRS wrote:Lerner apologizes to Tea Party groups for subjecting them to greater scrutiny, the first public acknowledgement that the IRS had done so.

"That was absolutely incorrect, it was insensitive and it was inappropriate. That's not how we go about selecting cases for further review," Lerner said at a conference sponsored by the American Bar Association.

"The IRS would like to apologize for that," she added.
Screw_Michigan wrote:
I am far from the Obama ball-licker I'm portrayed to be here.

Huh? Maybe not Obama so much as the DNC, but they are pretty much one in the same.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:08 pm
by BSmack
Tanned, rested and ready.

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Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:49 pm
by LTS TRN 2
The problem with the latest desperate partisan attack on Obama by the utterly shameless GOP is that there's no real malice at the heart of the alleged cover-up. Sure, the attack at Benghazi was a surprise and the American response was slow and confused. And yes, it appears that that a blundered cover-up ensued. Okay...but it's not Watergate or Iran/Contra by any stretch. Each of those crimes--and attempted cover-ups--were based on serious crimes committed by the sitting president--not a surprise attack by terrorists at a distant embassy. Now if Reagan in particular--whose crimes were far more excessive than anything Barry's been accused of--could smile and lie (forget) everything, well Barry has no worries about impeachment.

As for Hillary, sure, let's see her politically buried without her head. Same with Holder.

But the big lie here--now in hyper-chant by Limpdick and Hannity--is that Barry is some kind of "liberal" threat to America, etc. This is categorical bullshit. The real crime of Barry is his complete abandoning of his progressive agenda upon which he was duly elected. As far as his basic GOP credentials, Hannity parrots like 1-malt should be fine with him. After all, Barry has jacked up military spending and actions by an unprecedented degree. His support of Israel is at an all-time high. He will sign off on the dreadful Keystone pipeline, and he will not seek any redress or prosecution of Wall St. bankers and shysters who have committed colossal crimes. He's a GOP dream come true--promoting its basic goals while providing a cartoon "liberal" to attack (as the disastrous effects of previous GOP administrations continue to accrue).

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:00 pm
by Truman
Martyred wrote:warrant-less wiretapping
...Of overseas phone calls made by known terror suspects. This concerns you why?
The Bradley Manning case
So? What part of restricted material escapes you?
aiding pro Al Queda elements in Syria
You’re just mad that Assad has been unable to close the deal and return his attention to the business of killing Jews.
Obama making a deal with the GOP not to seek prosecution of Bush torturers
What torture? Were limbs rendered? Were skulls crushed? Why do you care that a couple of 7th Century, fly-blown Islamic extremists had their Qurans Butt-sprayed?
Indefinite detentions
Groovy. Let’s deport them all to Canada.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:08 pm
by Cuda
Smackie Chan wrote:
Sudden Sam wrote:AP phone records
I figured this was more up Shrub's alley. His association with AP is something else entirely.
maybe there's more than just panty pics he sexted to his 27 year old hottie-errr, SG's sister-errrrr, Wendy-Lou-Who

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:21 pm
by Truman
LTS TRN 2 wrote:And yes, it appears that that a blundered cover-up ensued. Okay...but it's not Watergate
Good point. Nobody died in Watergate.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:But the big lie here--now in hyper-chant by Limpdick and Hannity--is that Barry is some kind of "liberal" threat to America, etc. This is categorical bullshit. The real crime of Barry is his complete abandoning of his progressive agenda upon which he was duly elected.
Horseshit. Barry was elected by white guilt and Bush fatigue in '08, and by the GOPhers failure to field a viable candidate in '12. No more.

If the country truly wanted the progressive agenda you proclaim, don't you think that we would have it by now? You owned both houses of Congress for two years, including a super majority in the Senate, and all you have to show for it is a new entitlement that everybody hates, and that will be gutted by a GOPher president at the first opportunity.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 6:54 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Truman wrote: Good point. Nobody died in Watergate.
Yeah, "If the president does it, it's not illegal" is no big deal.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:00 pm
by mvscal
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Sure, the attack at Benghazi was a surprise
To whom? Certainly not to the Ambassador who requested additional security on numerous occasions only to be ignored. Benghazi is a case of staggering incompetence before and during the attack and a cowardly pack of lies to paper over that incompetence in the aftermath. Embarassing, despicable and totally unacceptable but probably not impeachable.

Using various government agencies to strong arm political opposition, grease the palms of political contributors and intimidate the press is; however, straight out of Tricky Dick's playbook and demands impeachment.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:07 pm
by mvscal
Holder not sure how many times he’s seized press records

Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday that he isn’t sure how many times he’s seized reporters’ records.

“I’m not sure how many of those cases … I have actually signed off on,” Holder said in an interview with NPR’s Carrie Johnson. “I take them very seriously. I know that I have refused to sign a few [and] pushed a few back for modifications.”


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/15/holde ... z2TOE5BXuS
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Not to worry! The White House Plumbers are here to fix those leaks! Wait a minute...haven't we seen this movie before?

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:14 pm
by smackaholic
The press and the country have willingly looked the other way through multiple cases of incompetence/corruption, regarding barry & co, what makes the IRS thing so toxic, the IRS has been universally disliked by pretty much everyone not working for them directly. So people will have a tendency to want to join this pile on. The question is, whether or not people will believe some low level fallguy is to blame and we all know that will be the first thing thrown out there.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:55 pm
by Felix
mvscal wrote:
Using various government agencies to strong arm political opposition
the IRS isn't controlled by anyone....they're an agency that answers to no one and hold all the cards
if they think your guilty, you are until you prove yourself innocent.....

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:59 pm
by mvscal
Felix wrote:the IRS isn't controlled by anyone....they're an agency that answers to no one
Yeah....riiiight. I think it's pretty clear who pulls the strings.
Lois Lerner, the senior IRS official at the center of the decision to target tea party groups for burdensome tax scrutiny, signed paperwork granting tax-exempt status to the Barack H. Obama Foundation, a shady charity headed by the president’s half-brother that operated illegally for years.

According to the organization’s filings, Lerner approved the foundation’s tax status within a month of filing, an unprecedented timeline that stands in stark contrast to conservative organizations that have been waiting for more than three years, in some cases, for approval.

Lerner also appears to have broken with the norms of tax-exemption approval by granting retroactive tax-exempt status to Malik Obama’s organization.

The National Legal and Policy Center filed an official complaint with the IRS in May 2011 asking why the foundation was being allowed to solicit tax-deductible contributions when it had not even applied for an IRS determination. In a New York Post article dated May 8, 2011, an officer of the foundation admitted, “We haven’t been able to find someone with the expertise” to apply for tax-exempt status.

Nevertheless, a month later, the Barack H. Obama Foundation had flown through the grueling application process. Lerner granted the organization a 501(c) determination and even gave it a retroactive tax exemption dating back to December 2008.

The group’s available paperwork suggests an extremely hurried application and approval process. For example, the group’s 990 filings for 2008 and 2009 were submitted to the IRS on May 30, 2011, and its 2010 filing was submitted on May 23, 2011.

Lerner signed the group’s approval [pdf] on June 26, 2011.

It is illegal to operate for longer than 27 months without an IRS determination and solicit tax-deductible contributions.

The ostensibly Arlington, Va.-based charity was not even registered in Virginia despite the foundation’s website including a donation button that claimed tax-exempt status.

Its president and founder, Abon’go “Roy’ Malik Obama, is Barack Obama’s half-brother and was the best man at his wedding, but he has a checkered past. In addition to running his charity, Malik Obama ran unsuccessfully to be the governor of Siaya County in Kenya. He was accused of being a wife beater and seducing the newest of his twelve wives while she was a 17-year-old school girl.

Sensing something wrong when he and a group of Missouri State students visited Kenya in 2009, Ken Rutherford, winner of the 1997 Nobel Peace Prize for his work on banning landmines, determined that Malik Obama was an “operator” and elected to give a donation of 400 pounds of medical supplies to a local clinic instead.

“We didn’t know what he was going to do with them,” Rutherford told the New York Post in 2011.

It is also not clear what the Barack H. Obama Foundation actually does. Its website claims the organization has built a madrassa and was building a imam’s house but there is no other evidence that the nonprofit was actually helping poor Kenyan children.

“The Obama Foundation raised money on its web page by falsely claiming to be a tax deductible. This bogus charity run by Malik had not even applied and yet subsequently got retroactive tax-deductible status,” Ken Boehm, chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center, told The Daily Caller. Boehm described Malik Obama’s attempt to raise money as constituting “common law fraud and potentially even federal mail fraud.”

Boehm doubted that the charity is doing what it says it’s doing and wondered why the charity was given tax-exempt status so quickly after the evidence of wrongdoing came to light.

“How do you get retroactive tax-exempt status when you haven’t even applied to get it in the first place?” Boehm said.


Lerner continues to draw fire for her handling of the IRS targeting of conservative and citizen groups, but her colleagues have started to defend her, alleging that she behaves “apolitically.”

Larry Noble, who served as general counsel at the FEC from 1987 to 2000, hired and promoted Lerner. “I worked with Lois for a number of years and she is really one of the more apolitical people I’ve met,” Noble told The Daily Beast. “That doesn’t mean she doesn’t have political views, but she really focuses on the job and what the rules are. She doesn’t have an agenda.”

Lerner could not be reached for comment. Calls to the Barack H. Obama Foundation went directly to the organization’s voicemail and were not returned.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 8:40 pm
by Mace
No one is getting impeached over this IRS "scandal" because this stuff has been going on for years. The IRS was doing the same shit to liberal organizations during the Bush administration and now the roles have been reversed. Cleaning up and clarifying the tax code is what needs to be done but, considering that both parties get lots of campaign funds from these organizations, that ain't gonna happen. A few heads may roll at the IRS but that's about all we're going to see coming from this. FoxNews and the Tea Party are grasping at straws and failing badly at gaining any traction with anyone with a lick of common sense.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:50 pm
by mvscal
Mace wrote:No one is getting impeached over this IRS "scandal" because this stuff has been going on for years. The IRS was doing the same shit to liberal organizations during the Bush administration and now the roles have been reversed.
Wrong.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:56 pm
by Y2K
FoxNews and the Tea Party are grasping at straws and failing badly at gaining any traction with anyone with a lick of common sense.
ReallY? This is front page news in every paper and on all the broadcast news channels.
I'm not saying Fox isn't enjoying watching Obama eat a shit sandwich but to downplay this to that level is at best ignorant and naive.

Re: Impeachment.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 9:58 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Truman wrote: ...Of overseas phone calls made by known terror suspects. This concerns you why?
You might be a "suspect" tomorrow.


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