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Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:47 pm
by War Wagon
From what I've read, an overloaded/poorly loaded semi-trailer hit a girder while crossing, triggering the collapse.
Pity that Pedo in Seattle wasn't on that bridge at the crucial moment.
Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:20 pm
by Derron
War Wagon wrote:From what I've read, an overloaded/poorly loaded semi-trailer hit a girder while crossing, triggering the collapse.
Don't get all LTard on us about the engineering aspects of this there Wags. These piece of shit type spans are all over the place. Poorly engineered in the first place,and then the governments failure to even come close to maintenance, and just let the asset degrade, this is bound to happen.
Properly engineered, and reasonably maintained, a bridge should be able to take a hit like that and not fail. I have been over that bridge once or twenty times with my semi and trailer, legally loaded.
Of course our government has made it so expensive to replace these pieces of shit, this will become the norm soon. Unless you spend billions of dollars to replace bridges across rivers like the tax and spend crowd wants to do between Portland and Vantucky, at a mere cost of 3.5 BILLION dollars.
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/15 ... ng-project
Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:22 pm
by smackaholic
If you really want to see what bridge neglect looks like, take a look at anything in the boston area, with the possible exception of downtown where they do a pretty good job of making it look pretty for the
pressure cooker bombers tourists. The undersides of some of these bridges look as though they haven't seen even superficial maintenance like a little chipping and painting in 20 years or more. Of course I am sure this has nothing at all to do with the fact that every state highway maintenance dime has gone to that collossal bonedoggle, the big dig.
But hey, they do have a swell looking acre or two of grass downtown that used to be under the elevated hiway.
And the coupla girders they left as a reminder to the good ole days get all the paint they need.
Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:47 pm
by Felix
Derron wrote:
Of course our government has made it so expensive to replace these pieces of shit, this will become the norm soon.
exactly how has the government "made it so expensive to replace these pieces of shit"
the government has nothing to do with the cost for repairing or replacing bridges, roads, etc.
Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 9:29 pm
by Carson
There's not enough facepalms to cover what Foolix just posted.
Ever hear of regulations and superfluous specifications?
The government designs bridges, then only allows 50% of their designed loads to cross them. No impact to transportation costs there, nope.
Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:22 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:38 pm
by Derron
Felix wrote:Derron wrote:
Of course our government has made it so expensive to replace these pieces of shit, this will become the norm soon.
exactly how has the government "made it so expensive to replace these pieces of shit"
the government has nothing to do with the cost for repairing or replacing bridges, roads, etc.
Just who the fuck does you fucking moron ?
They own the bridges, they issue the bonds to finance them, they impose DB and BOLI regulations on the construction of them, and they are the ones who fail to maintain them .....
You really can not be serious about that statement.....but then again you probably are...???
Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 11:27 pm
by smackaholic
I can't speak for Idaho, but, in many places there is also good old prevailing wage laws which require every fukking shovel holder and coffee fetcher on site to be paid 2 or 3 times what the market dictates.
Re: In U&L - They Must Not have Used Square Head Deck Screws
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:17 am
by Derron
smackaholic wrote:I can't speak for Idaho, but, in many places there is also good old prevailing wage laws which require every fukking shovel holder and coffee fetcher on site to be paid 2 or 3 times what the market dictates.
That would be what the DB and BOLI refers too.
But the market dictates those wages for publicly funded projects. You really do not see too many private owners building bridges and other private infrastructure projects that would pay "market" wages. Those wages are pretty much the norm for public projects.
We built a baseball field back in 2008 on a public contract. It cost about $ 138,000. We built one exactly the same the year before with out being subject to prevailing wage rates, and the cost was about $ 89,000.