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The president of Ohio State University said Notre Dame was never invited to join the Big Ten because the university's priests are not good partners, joking that "those damn Catholics" can't be trusted, according to a recording of a meeting he attended late last year.

At the December meeting of the school's Athletics Council, Gordon Gee took shots at schools in the Southeastern Conference and the University of Louisville, according to the recording, obtained by The Associated Press under a public records request.

Gee apologized in a statement.

"The comments I made were just plain wrong, and in no way do they reflect what the university stands for," he said. "They were a poor attempt at humor and entirely inappropriate."

The university's board of trustees was notified of the comments at a Jan. 31 meeting this year, said the board's chairman, Robert H. Schottenstein, in a statement. He called the comments inappropriate and "wholly unacceptable" for a university president.

"As such, the board took swift action," he wrote. "The board has met with President Gee at length to discuss the ramifications of his statements and develop a plan that addresses these missteps. ... We are hopeful that this course of action will be beneficial to President Gee, the broader community and the University going forward."

Gee, who has taken heat previously for uncouth remarks, told members of the council that he negotiated with Notre Dame officials during his first term at Ohio State, which began more than two decades ago.

"The fathers are holy on Sunday, and they're holy hell on the rest of the week," Gee said to laughter at the Dec. 5 meeting attended by Athletic Director Gene Smith and several other athletic department members, along with professors and students.

"You just can't trust those damn Catholics on a Thursday or a Friday, and so, literally, I can say that," said Gee, a Mormon.

The Big Ten had for years courted Notre Dame, but the school resisted, seeking to retain its independent status in college football. The school announced in September that it would join the Athletic Coast Conference in all sports except football. It also agreed to play five football games each year against ACC teams.

In the recording, Gee referred specifically to dealing with the Rev. Ned Joyce, Notre Dame's longtime chief financial officer, who died in 2004.

"Father Joyce was one of those people who ran the university for many, many years," Gee said.

Gee said the Athletic Coast Conference added Notre Dame at a time when it was feeling vulnerable.

"Notre Dame wanted to have its cake and eat it, too," Gee said, according to the recording and a copy of the meeting's minutes.

Gee has apologized to Notre Dame's president, the Rev. John I. Jenkins, who has accepted the apology, said Notre Dame spokesman Dennis Brown, an assistant vice president.

“We find the remarks most regrettable, particularly regarding Father Joyce, who served Notre Dame and collegiate athletics so well and for so long," Brown said today.

Gee was introduced at the event by Athletic Council then-chairman Charlie Wilson, and Gee's name and introduction are included in written minutes of the meeting. Gee's comments drew laughter, at times loud, occasionally nervous, but no rebukes, according to the audio.

The Athletic Council meets monthly during the fall, winter and spring and makes recommendations on athletic policy including ticket prices. December's meeting was at Ohio Stadium.

Gee has gotten in trouble for his offhand remarks, most recently during a memorabilia-for-cash and tattoos scandal that cost football coach Jim Tressel his job. Tressel had known about allegations that players were trading game paraphernalia for money and tattoos but didn't tell the university in violation of his contract and NCAA regulations.

Gee was asked in March 2011 whether he had considered firing Tressel. He responded: "No, are you kidding? Let me just be very clear: I'm just hopeful the coach doesn't dismiss me." Tressel stepped down three months later.

In November 2010, Gee boasted that Ohio State's football schedule didn't include teams on par with the "Little Sisters of the Poor." An apologetic Gee later sent a personal check to the real Little Sisters of the Poor in northwest Ohio and followed up with a visit to the nuns months later.

Last year, Gee apologized for comparing the problem of coordinating the school's many divisions to the Polish army, an off-the-cuff remark that a Polish-American group called a "slanderous" display of bigotry and ignorance.

Gee has one of the highest-profile resumes of any college president in recent history. He has held the top job at West Virginia University, the University of Colorado, Brown University and Vanderbilt University. He was Ohio State president from 1990 to 1997, and returned in 2007. He earns about $1.9 million annually in base pay, deferred and performance compensation and retirement benefits.

He is a prolific fundraiser and is leading a $2.5 billion campaign at Ohio State. He is omnipresent on campus, attending everything from faculty awards events to dormitory pizza parties. He is known for his bow ties — he has hundreds — and his horn-rimmed glasses.

During his comments to the Athletic Council, Gee also questioned the academic integrity of schools in the Southeastern Conference, and the University of Louisville.

The top goal of Big Ten presidents is to "make certain that we have institutions of like-minded academic integrity," Gee said. "So you won't see us adding Louisville," a member of the Big East conference that is also joining the ACC.

After a pause followed by laughter from the audience, Gee added that the Big Ten wouldn't add the University of Kentucky, either.

During the meeting, Gee also said he thought it was a mistake not to include Missouri and Kansas in earlier Big Ten expansion plans. Missouri has since joined the SEC.

"You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing," Gee said, when asked by a questioner how to respond to SEC fans who say the Big Ten can't count because it now has 14 members.

Gee noted he was chairman of the SEC during his time as Vanderbilt University chancellor. He also told his audience that speculation about the SEC "remains right here," according to the recording.

Gee took a swipe at Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delaney, one of the most powerful leaders in college athletics, when he answered a question about preserving Ohio State's financial interests in light of Big Ten revenue-sharing plans.

"No one admires Jim Delaney more than I do — I chaired the committee that brought him here," Gee said. "Jim is very aggressive, and we need to make certain he keeps his hands out of our pockets while we support him."

Killian wrote:Strike two.

M2 wrote:If OSU has any aspiration of ever being taken seriously as an academic institution, then Gee has to go.

Screw_Michigan wrote:

Killian wrote:Strike two.

Give me a fucking break. Just because Gordon Gee is the world's biggest tard doesn't erase the fact ND hasn't joined a league because it would have to share its TV money. To suggest anything else would be disingenuous at a bare minimum. If anything, Gee should be ass blasted for making ND a sympathetic case.

schmick wrote:Why would anyone have to apologize for telling the truth? notre dame didnt want to join the big 10 because they wanted to keep all the money to themselves.
Who wants to live in a world where telling the truth means you have to say youre sorry?

Screw_Michigan wrote:Yes, OK, cunt. ND's refusal to join a league has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with sharing its TV (or other) revenue and EVERYTHING to do with maintaining its tradition and prestige of independence.

Killian wrote:To every poster that has said "Why doesn't Notre Dame just join the Big 1G?", there's your answer.

Killian wrote:Can't see the forest, despite the trees? You are weapons grade stupid. Name one advantage the Big 1G provides ND that their current situation does not. They had their chance to accept Notre Dame as a full conference member but Fielding Yost let his anti-catholic bigotry get in the way. Now, and rightfully so, Notre Dame give them the bird every single time conference expansion comes up.

FLW Buckeye wrote:those damned alterboy buggerers...

Killian wrote:To every poster that has said "Why doesn't Notre Dame just join the Big 1G?", there's your answer.