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KC Scott wrote: she was diagnosed with stage 4 ling cancer.

She was eating tainted cod?

Damnit..I thought this thread was going to be you considering doing it yourself.

Sorry for you loss, Scott, and condolences to your wife and family. A morphine overdose in that type of situation would seem an appropriate solution.

Cancer is a bitch and has no age restrictions. A lot of physicians will "juice you up" and send you on your way. Passing laws to promote such procedures opens up way too many cans of worms, so I do not ascribe to that. If I was in a condition from which I had no reasonable chance of survival, I'd have a nice chat with my physician.

Yes, cancer is indeed "a bitch", and if you ever has known someone who has gone through it, you know just how much of a bitch that would be. A buddy of mine back from my television days had developed cancer of the liver and lungs, which in turn spread throughout his body over the course of a few weeks. I could never imagine anyone could deteriorate that quickly, and over his last few days, he was pumped full of morphine yet still in agony. He begged for his doctors and hospice officials to give him a "final dose", yet they refused. He only lasted two days after that, but he suffered the entire time.

While understanding that euthanasia is controversial and not everyone is going to agree, the question still begs to be asked, when is suffering and unendurable pain enough for someone to call it a day?

I don't have that answer. Don't know who does, other than the ones who suffer.

Give your wife my condolences Scott.

Dr. Death, an appropriate nickname, was a sick man who iced people that were no where near their last days. Most physicians are smarter than that, even the poor guy who is my primary care doctor. Have they eliminated doctor/patient confidentiality? I know one thing. If I can help it I'm not going out sitting in a wheelchair in front of a TV in a nursing home, and I'm not going out screaming. Yeah, right. Like we have any say in the matter. Even those health care proxies are not worth the paper they are on once you sign up for some of these treatments.

KC Scott wrote:What time period do you consider last days?

For her, and everyone else, its the very second you are diagnosed as stage 4. I have no clue why they bothered with C and R. All that did was make her die
faster and in much more agony.

Sorry for your families loss.

We put dogs out of their misery all the time, with a shot, in a painless way. I don't see why we don't have a more humane way to help humans. Never understood that.

Wolfman wrote:Passing laws to promote such procedures opens up way too many cans of worms

Like what?

Why do you old conservative fucks insist on having a say in how other people live their lives? Mind you own business, already.

Want to know what I think?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

Wolfman wrote:Passing laws to promote such procedures opens up way too many cans of worms

Like what?

Like people abusing the law to off inconvenient relatives, you fucking idiot.

There are also moments of aberration that we all have.

I'm not against euthanasia. But I don't want to see it get to the point where it's streamlined that a person suffering painful kidney stones is admitted to the ER in the morning and then given the golden needle before noon simply because the pain was too much to bear at the time.

Dieing is miserable for some, simple and clean for others.

It has always been this way and always will be. To think we can change this is arrogance.

Dieing is miserable for some

simple and clean for others.

Our ways and means of easing the suffering needs to be altered in both scenarios.

mvscal wrote:

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

Wolfman wrote:Passing laws to promote such procedures opens up way too many cans of worms

Like what?

Like people abusing the law to off inconvenient relatives, you fucking idiot.

So you think euthanasia should be illegal because bad people might attempt to take advantage of it in order to cause harm onto others? Go ahead and pull your pants down, because the gun-control libtards want to suck you off for that logic.

And do you really think it would be that fucking simple? Like rolling through a drive-thru and offing Grandma, along with a supersized combo meal?

What's wrong with pulling the plug on granny?

I got a 100% on the Euthanasia geography quiz. Rack me.

-smackaholic

fukk you, mgoo.

Been legal in Oregon for 15 years.

And believe it or not, there's some basic safeguards against offing Granny.

Trampis wrote:To think we can change this is arrogance.

We can, and we are. It's already being done in some states and several countries.

Granny mixes a little powder in her tea and goes night night five minutes later. It's not complicated.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Granny mixes a little powder in her tea and goes night night five minutes later.

That is suicide not euthanasia, idiot.

Okay, so the nurse does it.

You get the point, asshat.

mvscal wrote:

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Granny mixes a little powder in her tea and goes night night five minutes later.

That is suicide not euthanasia, idiot.

We should probably run that past on of the government-sponsored death panels, first.

Screw_Michigan wrote:
We should probably run that past on of the government-sponsored death panels, first.

Okay, Screwey. Okay.


We "get" the joke you're desperately trying to shoe-horn in here...
Jeeeeeeeeeezzzz....

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Okay, so the nurse does it.

That's right, dumbfuck. There is a pretty fucking huge difference between somebody killing himself and somebody else killing that person.

You get the point, asshat.

I do. You don't.

Jsc810 wrote:] but I feel obligated to try for people like my friend Lynn.

Honestly, you are the epitome of a drama queen. At every turn of your life you seem to have some suffering SOB who you can't help but take on their burden for yourself. Can't you just let shit be?

mvscal wrote:That's right, dumbfuck. There is a pretty fucking huge difference between somebody killing himself and somebody else killing that person.

Of course there is. You're still being a disingenuous asshat.

Trampis said it can't be done. It is being done, and quite easily.

Jsc810 wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:] but I feel obligated to try for people like my friend Lynn.

Honestly, you are the epitome of a drama queen. At every turn of your life you seem to have some suffering SOB who you can't help but take on their burden for yourself. Can't you just let shit be?

In the event you have someone in those circumstances beg you to kill them to put them out of their misery, perhaps you'll understand. I hope it never happens to you.

Your friend is dead, right? What possible help do you think you are giving her by the committee work you mentioned? Admit it. It's not about helping others, it's about clearing your self-imposed guilty conscience.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: It is being done, and quite easily.

And there are some who believe it should not be so easily done. In the instances where the patient has made his wishes clear in unequivocal terms, then I support it.

Reality isn't always so cut and dried.

All that just to say you agree with me.

Dinsdale wrote:Been legal in Oregon for 15 years.

And believe it or not, there's some basic safeguards against offing Granny.

I've talked to my share of old Oregonian grannies. They're doing just fine. Though they do wish you would stop calling them after last call.

i wish you'd euthanize your keyboard

Jsc810 wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:] but I feel obligated to try for people like my friend Lynn.

Honestly, you are the epitome of a drama queen. At every turn of your life you seem to have some suffering SOB who you can't help but take on their burden for yourself. Can't you just let shit be?

In the event you have someone in those circumstances beg you to kill them to put them out of their misery, perhaps you'll understand. I hope it never happens to you.

Just like all those babies you are so fond of aborting.