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Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:20 pm
by Left Seater
...they weren't the first city and they won't be the last. Let the jokes fly, but it is a sad day.
I don't pretend to know everything that has happened to get them to this place, but having a family member who has worked there I do know more than the average non-Detroiter. White flight, taxes and mismanagement are the biggest reasons why the city finds itself in this situation.
Detroit has lost 30% of its population since 2000. It has lost 2% since April 2010. Today the population is almost 83% black, 7% Hispanic and 8% white. Since 2000, the city has lost 26% of its businesses.
On top of that Detroit has a city income tax. If you live in the city you pay 2.4% of your non-adjusted income from your Federal Return. If you work in the city but don't live there you pay 1.2% of your non-adjusted income. All businesses located within the city pay 2% of all their non-adjusted income.
How does Detroit recover? Taxing their way out certainly isn't going to work. Who would start a business in Detroit today when you and your employees would be better off if the business were located 10 miles away?
Best of luck Detroit.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:41 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote:I don't pretend to know everything that has happened to get them to this place
Well you pretty much summed up everything.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:46 pm
by BarFlie
I heard they passed a 'right to work' law of some kind so that's a step in the right direction. Next is they need to get rid of the union's bullshit and find a way out from under all those ridiculous pensions. They also need some wide open free enterprise capitalism going on if they want to grow. I say wait a decade or two and see what happens.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:58 pm
by Atomic Punk
Left Seater wrote:
Today the population is almost 83% black, 7% Hispanic and 8% white. Since 2000, the city has lost 26% of its businesses.
How does Detroit recover?
It doesn't.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:59 pm
by Left Seater
Screw_Michigan wrote:Left Seater wrote:I don't pretend to know everything that has happened to get them to this place
Well you pretty much summed up everything.
And neither do you, but that's never spared us your opinion before.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:41 pm
by Mikey
Roach wrote:Isn't Detroit where every Halloween, the natives try to burn down the city? And the rich folk rent out penthouse pads for partying and watching the fireworks?
Since it is all ready so fucked up, just fence it and burn it all. Sell the event rights to some media outlet and be done with it. Donate the land to the suckers who bought into the General Motors pension plan.
Hell, they should just empty out the entire downtown area, sell the movie rights to Michael Bay for $100 million or so and let him have at it.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:58 pm
by Derron
Atomic Punk wrote:Left Seater wrote:
Today the population is almost 83% black, 7% Hispanic and 8% white. Since 2000, the city has lost 26% of its businesses.
How does Detroit recover?
It doesn't.
Unfortunately, Atomic Cunt is right.
There is no way that city ever comes back. It will be quite the social experiment to see. I see complete anarchy and major SHTF there real soon. Who cares if they come back. Burn the mother fucker down and be done with it.
Watch the government pension tit suckers and all the UAW start pussy bleeding soon.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:07 pm
by Atomic Punk
Derron wrote:Atomic Punk wrote:Left Seater wrote:
Today the population is almost 83% black, 7% Hispanic and 8% white. Since 2000, the city has lost 26% of its businesses.
How does Detroit recover?
It doesn't.
Unfortunately, Atomic Cunt is right.
There is no way that city ever comes back. It will be quite the social experiment to see. I see complete anarchy and major SHTF there real soon. Who cares if they come back. Burn the mother fucker down and be done with it.
Watch the government pension tit suckers and all the UAW start pussy bleeding soon.
Derron, why the misguided paranoid hate? Hey, I just bought a tactical light set to "strobe" for my Mossberg 500 Persuader a few days ago. I have my Gerber knives and I'm prepared for the upcoming race war brother. Ease off already.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:16 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Detroit didn't spend $56 million on the Silverdome, you idiot. Oakland County did.
Get a fucking clue, Scrote, before checking back in.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:17 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Left Seater wrote:
And neither do you, but that's never spared us your opinion before.
I wasn't being sarcastic, moron. You pretty much summed up the reasons why the city went broke, even though you said you didn't know why.
I know you conservatives are incapable of reading between the lines, but try to keep up here.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:18 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Mikey wrote:
Hell, they should just empty out the entire downtown area, sell the movie rights to Michael Bay for $100 million or so and let him have at it.
Downtown and a few pocket neighborhoods are the only 'hoods with any value or worth salvaging, unfortunately. It's the surrounding 'hoods that are Michael Bay territory.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:27 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
I can't believe it's been this long and Spray hasn't posted a bunch of random links to $2,000 homes in the ghettos of Detroit.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:35 pm
by BarFlie
Screw_Michigan wrote:I know you conservatives are incapable of reading between the lines, but try to keep up here.
And why should there be any need for libtard bullshit to be put between the lines? Tell it straight up or stfu!
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:43 pm
by Derron
Atomic Punk wrote: I just bought a tactical light set to "strobe" for my Mossberg 500 Persuader a few days ago.
That move proves you are still a complete fucking idiot.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:47 pm
by Derron
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Detroit didn't spend $56 million on the Silverdome, you idiot. Oakland County did.
Typical liberal deflect bullshit.
The tax payers and bond holders paid for that you fucking moron. Both groups who will get completely fucked in this deal. They still have to pay those bonds you know.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:48 pm
by mvscal
Screw_Michigan wrote:the reasons why the city went broke...
Yes, there are hundreds of thousands of "reasons" why the city went broke...
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:54 pm
by Atomic Punk
Derron wrote:Atomic Punk wrote: I just bought a tactical light set to "strobe" for my Mossberg 500 Persuader a few days ago.
That move proves you are still a complete fucking idiot.
Please elaborate. Using the laser option with a shotgun would be a better idea? Come on Dorron, tell me how you would do it.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:57 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Derron wrote:Screw_Michigan wrote:
Detroit didn't spend $56 million on the Silverdome, you idiot. Oakland County did.
Typical liberal deflect bullshit.
The tax payers and bond holders paid for that you fucking moron. Both groups who will get completely fucked in this deal. They still have to pay those bonds you know.
DETROIT IS IN WAYNE COUNTY, NOT OAKLAND COUNTY
Get your three inch penis stuck in a meat grinder.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:01 am
by Dinsdale
Derron wrote:Atomic Punk wrote: I just bought a tactical light set to "strobe" for my Mossberg 500 Persuader a few days ago.
That move proves you are still a complete fucking idiot.
Nah... for me, it was:
Atomic Punk wrote:I have my Gerber knives
Since Fiskars bought them (1986?), probably the best mass-produced knives in human history have become complete junk.
I'd love to be a Gerber fan, since they're right down the street from me... but I just can't do it. Although the best mass-produced knives still come from within a 20 minute drive from there... Kershaw, Benchmade, and CRKT (Columbia River Knife and Tool, aka Cricket).
The Portland area pwns knife manufacture (not that there aren't other good ones). Which I'm guessing is why Oregon is the only place (or so I've been told) where you can legally carry a concealed automatic knife (auto-knife bans are the dumbest laws ever, BTW).
I own a couple fine examples of Kershaw and CRKT products. If anybody wants the perfect knife for work, the CRKT KISS series is the shizznizzle... and fairly inexpensive. Couldn't be any happier with mine.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:43 am
by Atomic Punk
Dinsdale wrote:Derron wrote:Atomic Punk wrote: I just bought a tactical light set to "strobe" for my Mossberg 500 Persuader a few days ago.
That move proves you are still a complete fucking idiot.
Nah... for me, it was:
Atomic Punk wrote:I have my Gerber knives
Since Fiskars bought them (1986?), probably the best mass-produced knives in human history have become complete junk.
I'd love to be a Gerber fan, since they're right down the street from me... but I just can't do it. Although the best mass-produced knives still come from within a 20 minute drive from there... Kershaw, Benchmade, and CRKT (Columbia River Knife and Tool, aka Cricket).
The Portland area pwns knife manufacture (not that there aren't other good ones). Which I'm guessing is why Oregon is the only place (or so I've been told) where you can legally carry a concealed automatic knife (auto-knife bans are the dumbest laws ever, BTW).
I own a couple fine examples of Kershaw and CRKT products. If anybody wants the perfect knife for work, the CRKT KISS series is the shizznizzle... and fairly inexpensive. Couldn't be any happier with mine.
You don't see Kershaws around here. You have to order online. I'm well aware that Gerber was bought out, but for basic utility and simple usage, they don't cost much either. The best and most simple utility tool I have is a very simple Gerber machete. It's just a utility tool that could prolly drop smackaholics "deck" in 10 minutes.
I still am waiting for an explanation for why using the strobe option on a TAC light is foolish. As long as you don't hold the pressure switch down for more than a second, I don't see a problem.
If everyone here lived in the Portland area, we would be the total sum of all human knowledge wouldn't we?
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:13 am
by Trampis
Ive often wondered why, when a city goes to shit you just couldnt bulldoze down the mess and turn it back to farm land. You see, the beauty of corn is , the header stays well above the ground where all the needles are.
Detroit for ethanol 2014.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:59 pm
by L45B
"Cleveland, you're on the clock."
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:08 pm
by Imus
Atomic Punk wrote:The best and most simple utility tool I have is a very simple Gerber machete.
I'm sure your toolkit consists of that, an old bottle of salmon eggs, and an empty jug of Thunderbird wine.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:35 pm
by Atomic Punk
Imus wrote:Atomic Punk wrote:The best and most simple utility tool I have is a very simple Gerber machete.
I'm sure ...
To every person that posts here. Would you lower yourself to using a shit troll after having your ass repeatedly handed to you with your regular moniker? This shit troll follows all of my posts like an obsessive ex-girlfriend. I don't know a single male here that would lower himself to such levels. At least the males here fight back. This is obsessive and I guess I'm flattered to have a girl hide behind a shit troll to ankle bite me.
Carry on!
P.S. STFU in advance MgBl0w. You aren't as funny as you think you are. I hope Tardowned hunts you down and farts in your general direction.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:00 pm
by Derron
Atomic Punk wrote:I hope Tardowned hunts you down and farts in your general direction.
That could be dangerous with a load of your fag jizz blasting out of Todd's ass in the fart. Every one will need to remain cautious.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:21 pm
by Atomic Punk
Derron wrote:Atomic Punk wrote:I hope Tardowned hunts you down and farts in your general direction.
That could be dangerous with a load of your fag jizz blasting out of Todd's ass in the fart. Every one will need to remain cautious.
Especially for the ones that don't have English language competency skills.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:19 am
by Derron
Atomic Punk wrote:
Especially for the ones that don't have English language competency skills.
You are very boring. Fuck off.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:46 pm
by Left Seater
Angry Black Lady is probably completely qualified for the job as she described it. Just sitting around waiting for a check. Pretty sure she has that part down.
Re: Detroit files for chapter 9 bankruptcy protection...
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:00 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Rack anyone who finishes a blast with "kiss my balck ass."