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Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:51 pm
by Left Seater
wait, what the hell am I saying, he clearly has no standards when it comes to building things.

Sorry Smacky no pictures of Mrs Seater today.


Instead I have a few pics of the project I have been working on for the past few weekends. Since we only have a carport for now, I needed a place for the table saw, power miter saw, drills, tool boxes, mower, blower, weed whacker, extension cords, power washer, chain saw, etc, etc, etc. So time to put some of those things to work and build a shed. Mrs Seater wanted it to match the house so I had to spend a good deal of time finding the siding that matched our house. That done the work could begin.

Shed is 4 feet by 8 feet at the base. Dug footers and poured concrete into them. Then set those pre fab concrete joist holders in the hole and locked them down with more concrete. One footer at each corner and two more on both the front and back. Then laid 2x6 joists. One piece of 3/4 inch OSB and one 3/4 inch sheet of plywood finished the base.

Footing and first layer of OSB.
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Then it was framing time. Used 2x4s for the walls and screwed everything together. Overkill for sure but I want the shed to be here for awhile. Made 4 panels on the driveway one each for the front (including door space), back and sides. Then used notched 2x6's for the roof rafters.

If you look closely you will notice the door opening is not exactly centered. That is so it will be easier to get the lawn mower in and out without having to fold the handle.
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Then it was on to the roof and siding. The siding came in 16 foot sections which made it very easy to prep. The wife got involved and painted the siding (prior to hanging) while I finished the roof. Since the outside dimensions were 4 feet by 8 feet, I could cut the siding in half to cover the front and back sections and make three cuts for the side pieces. The doors are a 2x4 frame with an additional cross brace going parallel to the ground half way up the door. They are then covered with a 1/2 inch finish grade plywood.

Smacky, notice the trash bag along the fence for keeping a clean job site. The scrap pieces in front of the doors were to help hold the door while I attached the hinges.
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I wanted the doors to be both heavy and to fit tightly to keep the water and leaves out. One the inside part of the doors I am going to hang shovels, rakes, etc. But by making them sit close together when closed, there would be an issue when trying to open them due to the 2x4 construction. So I tapered the back end of each inside 2x4 so they would close easily. Not that this picture allows you to see that.
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Next the wife painted a few 1x4s that became the decorative trim around the doors. Couple quick cuts and some liquid nails and a few regular finish nails and we had this.
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Now I am working on the corner trim pieces. Same 1x4 lumber painted to match the siding and it makes the corners look much better than just the open ends of the siding. I am also painting the roof trim to match the door trim.
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Tomorrow I will add the soffit covers that were painted today, trim the shingles to a consistent overhang over the drip edge, add door hardware and finish the touch up painting. The the interior work begins with a few cabinets, peg boards, shelves, etc.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:18 pm
by Carson
OSB for exposed floor sheathing?

You lose.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:32 pm
by War Wagon
wait, what the hell am I saying, he clearly has no standards when it comes to building things.
actually, his deck is built to withstand hurricane force winds. It's waaay overbuilt, especially when compared to the foundation it's attached to. It's landscaping we ridicule him over.

Couple of observations about your setup there, Lefty.

While it's quite a pretty shed, it's not very big. Why, $cott couldn't even fit his John Deere tractor in there nor dave his bloated ego.

That privacy fence looks sturdy enough I suppose, how old is it? Most in my 'hood have 3 horizontal 2x4's and even then the dog-ears tend to warp after a few years of midwest weather. Maybe it's different where you live.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:03 am
by Derron
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What the hell kind of snow load are you expecting on that roof anyway ?

Bitch is way stout.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:31 am
by Wolfman
^^^^^^^^
Funny one.
Actually I was thinking it might have been easier to purchase a shed that was already built. Maybe even from a nearby Amish community if there is one.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:24 am
by smackaholic
Believe it or not, I am going to be building something similar shortly. A shed for my pool pump. I am using a fairly stout 4 x 8 pallet brought home from work as the base. Putting PT 2x4s from the old deck under it to keep the non PT wood away from the ground. It will be a little shorter than yours. Will probably use a storm door I have in the basement. I will sheath it most likely in T-111 ) probably the only thing I will actually have to buy! I think I will do a saltbox style roof rather than the simpler lean too style you used. I like the door treatment you used. Simple, cheap and not bad looking. I will put up pics.

I must echo what carson said about the chipboard floor. why didn't you just pour a slab?

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:32 am
by R-Jack
Better than I can do on the fly so rack it

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:47 am
by Mikey
Nice work.

I bought one of these a Lowe's.

Not as nice looking but it goes up in about 5 minutes.

OK I made a nice little framed gravel base for it but it still only took a couple hours total.

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Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:29 pm
by Left Seater
Carson,

Thanks for the concern but the OSB isn't exposed. The ends are painted, as is the underside. It is coved with another painted piece of finish ply. Plus the siding goes below the base as well. It is still going strong in two older sheds as well.



War Wagon,

No tractors or egos here, just lots of tools and a self propelled mower. As for the fence it is at least 15 years old. If you look closely in the framing shot you can see a much newer fence on the right hand side. This fence does have the 3 2x4s, plus a top cap. The older fence is a shared fence and that neighbor doesn't want to spend the money to replace until necessary.



Derron,

No snow loads, well nothing more than an inch or so every 5 years, but I wanted to be safe while I shingled it. Plus I will hang a few things from it on the inside.



Roach,

Ha, neither but fresh water would be very easy.



Wolf,

By local do you mean multiple states away? That would have required shipping and those idiots from shipping wars would have ruined something.



88,

There are clips on there. Each on is on the right side of the roof header and ties to the 2x6 below it on the inside of the shed. I guess I could have put them on both sides, but didn't. I also used a few 90 degree clips to mount the 2x6 supporting the roof joists to the front wall frame. At least one is visible in the framing photo. I also used liquid nails where the joists sit along with screwing them down. But food for though on the next shed, putting them on both sides of the joists.



Smacky,

A poured slab requires a permit from the city and a new survey. Any building on a poured slab is considered "permanent" and therefore is subject to additional requirements. By doing it this way no permit fee, no inspections, and no need for a new survey when we sell the house.



R-Jack,

Thanks.



Mikey,

We looked at those and they certainly would have been faster, but we didn't care for the look so much. Well, Mrs seater didn't and I didn't get to use many tools to build it. Ours is more expensive than the big box plastic ones, but less expensive than the prefab wood ones. The siding was the expensive part, with 19 16 foot pieces required at roughly $15 each. I would certainly have had more time over the past few weeks had we gone that route though.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:48 am
by Wolfman
My brother in law in Ontario Canada who operates a huge turkey farm across the St. Lawrence River also sells Amish built sheds, gazebos, etc. that are made on the USA side. He has a license/permit to import them and sell on the Canadian side. Must be a pretty lucrative operation or he would not be doing it. That's why I mentioned it. No Amish folks down here that I am aware of.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:02 pm
by campinfool
I would have saved all the money used to build that shed and would have never bought those tools that created a need to build the shed in the first place. That way if a need ever arose for those tools to be used you could have had a nest egg of cash to pay some one else to do the work while you did more important things like huff octane booster or skimmed the interwebs for Latin porn. Or something.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:07 pm
by Smackie Chan
campinfool wrote:I would have saved all the money used to build that shed and would have never bought those tools that created a need to build the shed in the first place. That way if a need ever arose for those tools to be used you could have had a nest egg of cash to pay some one else to do the work while you did more important things like huff octane booster or skimmed the interwebs for Latin porn. Or something.
I like the cut of your jib, fool.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:19 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Nice pics, but could you re-take one posing next to the shed for proof? Full body shot please.

-Derron

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:20 pm
by smackaholic
Good point about a slab being permanent structure. Here in Ct, such a shed would prolly add 1000 bucks to your property tax.

Re: Not sure if this is to Smacky's standards...

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:14 pm
by Dinsdale
smackaholic wrote:Good point about a slab being permanent structure. Here in Ct, such a shed would prolly add 1000 bucks to your property tax.
'Round here, that would be $20K in permits... unless you already had a shed, then it's a no-go. One outbuilding per property (neighbors have a shed and a chicken coop, but they're Hispanic, so the city won't say anything... and we sure don't care as neighbors).