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USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:13 pm
by Left Seater
I think Pelini get the door first. Say the day after the regular season wraps.
I think the Texas and USC jobs are about equal. Texas has more money than God and likely lower expectations from the fan base and a softer media.
USC has the weather and beaches and Hollywood that some find attractive. The fans likely expect more and the media is far harder.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:32 pm
by Truman
Word in these parts is that Saban is about cash in - say, at a cool $10M-per. What will be interesting to see is WHO will be scratching those checks. Texas... Or 'bama. Bode Nicky.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:56 pm
by Killian
Sudden Sam wrote: So, if UA matched any offer from elsewhere, why would he leave?
Ego, mostly. He's won NC's at two schools, rebuilt one of the sport's legendary programs and could be the first coach to win NC's at 3 schools. If he were to leave for Texas and win a NC with them, he would undoubtedly go down as the greatest college football coach of all time.
Plus, I would wager that it would be a little less intense in Austin.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:14 pm
by At Large
Texas
Pros:
is the best job in terms of financial. There's less travel since most of the recruits are instaters. Tons of money funding. Their own network. Located in a town considered cool and hip nationally (I'm sure Texans may disagree).
Cons:
Not as high profile nationally as they like to think since they play most of their games in Texas either at home, in Dallas, or on the road against the other Texas teams. For all of their bluster about being the best job, they only have 1 national title to show for it since I've been alive and that one came within inches of not happening if USC had converted their fourth down late in the game. Recruiting isn't a huge gold mine as they seem to get players that have an attitude of entitlement before they even hit the field. Schooled, lately, by less-talented teams (but not NU, I know).
USC
Pro:
Is the best job in terms of exposure to national audiences. They play in many states thanks to the Pac-12. They have money. They have the best Heisman trophy legacy and the most national championships of NU or Texas. Better opportunity to play in the spotlight again with national exposure by playing Notre Dame.
Con:
They play in an old relic. They're located near Compton. History of cheating. Former heisman trophy winners either killed some people (allegedly) or took money. Games are on late sometimes for the rest of the country.
Nebraska
Pro:
Long history of winning with 2 teams 71 and 95 usually in the group of teams considered the best of all time. More Heisman winners and titles than Texas. Plays in Big 10, so potential to get Rose Bowl bid. Plays across a large path of the the midwest. Huge support from fans if you're winning. I think after Solich, Callahan and Bo, the losing aspect has toned down a bit from don't lose, to don't lose in an embarrassing way. Only game in the state.
Con:
Huge expectations to win more so than any team thanks to TO's 9-win benchmark. Expectations to do things the Nebraska way (ie, be like Tom and not scream and shout). Expectations to embrace NU's traditions like the blackshirts and the walk on program. Hard to recruit top flight athletes so there is little margin for error. History of player arrests, so always watched harder than other schools who tend to get away with that behavior.
I was going to say Texas is the best job, but in terms of history, financial, exposure, etc, it'd be hard to say USC isn't the best job followed by Texas (downgraded for underachieving) and then NU (location, intense scrutiny, hard to recruit there).
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:20 pm
by Mikey
Killian wrote:Sudden Sam wrote: So, if UA matched any offer from elsewhere, why would he leave?
Ego, mostly. He's won NC's at two schools, rebuilt one of the sport's legendary programs and could be the first coach to win NC's at 3 schools. If he were to leave for Texas and win a NC with them, he would undoubtedly go down as the greatest college football coach of all time.
Plus, I would wager that it would be a little less intense in Austin.
Bama or Texas, either way he'll still have to deal with a fan base that's 90%+ mouth breathing hicks.
At least Bama has Sudden Sam going for them.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:58 pm
by Goober McTuber
At Large wrote:
Pros
You could have stopped right there.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:45 am
by Carson
Mikey wrote:At least Bama has Sudden Sam going for them.
One is the loneliest number...
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:16 pm
by Dinsdale
schmick wrote:Texas... Matthew Mccaugnahey
I laughed.
That douche has to be one of the best recruiting tools A&M has in their arsenal.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:35 pm
by Left Seater
You guys are missing the point on MM. College athletes are smoking the hippie lettuce in record numbers I have been told. MM is a known chronic user. To have someone with those ties with access to your player can be a big pull.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:39 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:Hell, I thought all the Texas 5-stars went to Oregon these days.
While we love Bralon Addison, the recruiting atmosphere has changed a bit. Looking through the current roster, "XXXXX HS, XXXXX, Oregon" seems to appear a lot more often. While we'll always pluck off stars from california and Texas who are, at their young age, already tired of living in california and Texas, there's definitely more focus on in-state recruiting. Some of the best players on the team are Oregon boys, which hasn't happened too many times in the last 10 years. I wish Colt Lyerla (who was a 5 star from my local area) would stop being such a little bitch... the proverbial million-dollar-body-with-a-ten-cent-head... and his replacement (Johnny Mundt, from
Modesto), playing his first game as a true freshman (sitting behind the big star Lyerla) was named the John Mackey national TE of the week... might be time to quit whining and play, Colt - that near-guaranteed NFL career is slipping right through your fingers.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:16 pm
by Mikey
Sudden Sam wrote:Hell, I thought all the Texas 5-stars went to Oregon these days.
Stanford has been raiding Texas pretty well lately.
Andrew Luck and Stepfan Taylor come immediately to mind.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:33 pm
by Dinsdale
Mikey wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:Hell, I thought all the Texas 5-stars went to Oregon these days.
Stanford has been raiding Texas pretty well lately.
Andrew Luck and Stepfan Taylor come immediately to mind.
And they raided Portland of a lineman (whose name I forget, and will continue to forget, like that big douchebag who went to Nebraska and now plays for the Lions).
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:49 pm
by Mikey
Dinsdale wrote:Mikey wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:Hell, I thought all the Texas 5-stars went to Oregon these days.
Stanford has been raiding Texas pretty well lately.
Andrew Luck and Stepfan Taylor come immediately to mind.
And they raided Portland of a lineman (whose name I forget, and will continue to forget, like that big douchebag who went to Nebraska and now plays for the Lions).
Starting WR Ty Montgomery and monster DE Josh Mauro also from TX.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:31 pm
by The Seer
We recruit kids that matter from Texas....
Jake Brendel (Plano) starting center as true freshman & will stay there as long as he wants.
Simon Goines (Keller) has started at left tackle since arriving and it's his til he leaves.
Caleb Benenoch (Katy) will get quality time soon.
Massington (Mesquite), & Deon Hollins (Houston) are working for PT....
2 true sophs & 3 true frosh are / will be heavy contributors....thanks, Tejas.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:38 pm
by Dinsdale
Easy to recruit those guys -- they just tell them "you get to leave Texas, and live on the West Coast."
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:44 pm
by Left Seater
Dinsdale wrote:Easy to recruit those guys -- they just tell them "you get to leave Texas, and live on the West Coast."
Most pass on that. The others you just have to chalk it up to the poor decisions of youth.
You would have to pay me a ton to live in CA over TX. It wouldn't take nearly as much for the NW though.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:58 pm
by Dinsdale
Left Seater wrote:
You would have to pay me a ton to live in CA over TX. It wouldn't take nearly as much for the NW though.
We'd be willing to pay you a bunch to stay away.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:59 pm
by Left Seater
Perfect. I will set up the account and then send you the deposit info.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:22 pm
by The Seer
Left Seater wrote:
You would have to pay me a ton to live in CA over TX.
....And it has NOTHING to do with the weather. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:54 am
by Left Seater
Granted the weather on the CA coast is better, but the valley isn't a ton better.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:23 am
by MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan
I think USC is a slightly better job than Texas, although they're both in the very top tier, along with Notre Dame and Miami. These are schools where even a slightly above average coach should win 8-9 games a year, and a good coach will almost certainly win one MNC, if not more.
If Saban is really driven by ego, he should go to Nebraska. Turning the Huskers back into a consistent MNC contender would be a much more impressive way to end his career, and if anyone can do it, he can. (God forbid this ever actually happens.)
If all he cares about is being the first to win an MNC at three different schools, then Texas (or, theoretically, USC) would be a much safer bet. Probably easier than the titles he won at LSU and Bama, actually.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:57 pm
by The Seer
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:I think USC is a slightly better job than Texas, although they're both in the very top tier, along with Notre Dame and Miami. These are schools where even a slightly above average coach should win 8-9 games a year, and a good coach will almost certainly win one MNC, if not more.
If Saban is really driven by ego, he should go to Nebraska. Turning the Huskers back into a consistent MNC contender would be a much more impressive way to end his career, and if anyone can do it, he can. (God forbid this ever actually happens.)
If all he cares about is being the first to win an MNC at three different schools, then Texas (or, theoretically, USC) would be a much safer bet. Probably easier than the titles he won at LSU and Bama, actually.
Saban is rich. Why would he want to live in Nebraska?
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:07 pm
by campinfool
Saban ain't coming to Texas. He even knows that his coaching won't even get Texas bowl eligible with the roster full of me first, no tackling pussies.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:21 pm
by Truman
Interesting. It appears Saban has been on Bevo's Wish List a bit longer than we thought...
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Alabama coach Nick Saban insists he's not going anywhere.
Saban responded on his weekly radio show Thursday night to an Associated Press report that his agent talked to a University of Texas regent and a former regent a few days after the Jan. 7 national championship game. The conversation regarded the possibility of the Crimson Tide coach replacing Longhorns coach Mack Brown.
Saban responded that "I don't know about any of this stuff." He says he hasn't spoken to anybody about "that particular situation."
Saban said he and his wife Terry are happy at Alabama "and quite frankly, I'm just too damn old to start all over someplace else, to be honest with you."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc ... t/2839255/
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:34 am
by Cornhusker
The Seer wrote:Saban is rich. Why would he want to live in Nebraska?
His cash would go twice as far as opposed to Cali or Texass and he could be Warren Buffett's neighbor.
He could own his own Runza, he could hire ANYONE to remove his snow, (this includes Tom Osborne.)
Plus it'd be a step up from Alabama, just a small step mind you. (Sorry Sam)
When he wins that first NC, he'd be instant deity.
And most importantly, it'd piss off ESPN and all their CFB buttwags.
Wins all around.
Re: USC, Texas and Nebraska
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:11 pm
by Killian
Cornhusker wrote:
Plus it'd be a step up from Alabama, just a small step mind you. (Sorry Sam)
When he wins that first NC, he'd be instant deity.
No it isn't, and he already is. Christ, the guy has won 3 NC's at 'Bama and has a statue. He's already a living college football god.